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Are Europeans 'pathetic European free loaders'?

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ImmediateReaction · 25/03/2025 09:59

WhatsApp chat released today from the US calling Europeans 'pathetic European free-loaders'.

One of our closest allies! What about support from European countries after September 11th?

AIBU to expect more professional language?

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DuncinToffee · 27/03/2025 18:29

Zebedee999 · 27/03/2025 18:25

Everyone is entitled to their opinion; people are very intolerant that others may think differently to them.
Biden kept the Ukraine war going for 3 years. Trump is trying to stop it (his approach is poor in my opinion).
When soldiers are dieing who is behaving like children? Those who kept fanning the flames or those trying to stop it. If it was your sons doing the fighting I dare say you'd want the fighting to stop and wouldn't be so intolerant of those trying to stop it.
But you're entitled to your opinion. Personally if it takes children to stop a war where the adults have failed then I'll take it.

Russia kept the war going

Zebedee999 · 27/03/2025 18:32

JHound · 27/03/2025 18:28

Would you like some vinaigrette with your word salad?

(Also stop a war? They greenlit the bombing of a residential building killing 53 innocent men, women and children. Come on now!!!)

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Hmmm earlier you are calling people children, but have resorted to a childish response with no cogent argument yourself. Your previous posts follow a similar approach, throw childish comments with no actual adult arguments. Such is the UK in the 21stC alas.

StandFirm · 27/03/2025 18:32

DuncinToffee · 27/03/2025 18:29

Russia kept the war going

Yes.

And how many times: capitulation is not the same as peace through victory. They are exact opposites.

Putin will not stop at Ukraine if Europe is weak. We know that. Trump knows that. But Putin counts on that.

EasternStandard · 27/03/2025 18:51

Things seem to have moved on. Reading about the new deal and what it entails. Plus ‘Hungary and Slovakia have both said they will not vote for a roll over of existing curbs’ which is ending this July.

The EU may have decisions to make on backing Ukraine without US or joining in deal.

DuncinToffee · 27/03/2025 19:19

The latest peace deal that has been described as a Russian wishlist tied with a US bow?

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 27/03/2025 19:39

No we are not freeloaders. However, we know that Trump and his ilk are. Look after the richest, is their motto.

Serpentstooth · 27/03/2025 22:12

Yes. A steal not a deal. See Putin and Bigly planning on sharing the spoils of Greenland as predicted. Not even faintly embarassed about it. If US and Russia take the whole of the Arctic, all of us smaller countries will be fucked. Look at Ukraine. This is very very bad for everyone who isn't Putin or Bigly.

ImmediateReaction · 28/03/2025 07:25

Serpentstooth · 27/03/2025 22:12

Yes. A steal not a deal. See Putin and Bigly planning on sharing the spoils of Greenland as predicted. Not even faintly embarassed about it. If US and Russia take the whole of the Arctic, all of us smaller countries will be fucked. Look at Ukraine. This is very very bad for everyone who isn't Putin or Bigly.

The way the 'us' talk about sharing Greenland is awful, no embarrassment at all. Entitled and stupid.

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DdraigGoch · 28/03/2025 17:14

I hope that he gets the same reception that he got in Vermont.

ImmediateReaction · 28/03/2025 18:18

Greenlanders want to run themselves not be run by bullies from the US. America is tone deaf.

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ImmediateReaction · 28/03/2025 18:21

DuncinToffee · 28/03/2025 09:24

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg128xkvlqo

Advisers went door to door in Greenland yesterday trying to find locals who would pose for photos with Usha Vance. No one would do it.

No one would pose for pictures with the wife of J D Vance. Turning their backs and shunning the Vance . Doubt they'll get the message though.

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Serpentstooth · 28/03/2025 18:26

Just watched news report on Vances in Greenland. Apparently Bigly told Vance he had to be there too. I'm hoping he goes further and tells the Vances they have to live there. It looks bloody cold and not one bit like the hallowed walks of Washington and Florida. No less than he deserves, I hope it happens. 🙏

DuncinToffee · 28/03/2025 18:27

This looks awkward

https://bsky.app/profile/youranoncentral.bsky.social/post/3llhe2leqzt2k

US Trump regime official and walking meme JD Vance forced to land at Pituffik Base in Greenland where he interrupted and forcibly sat with young soldiers during their lunch time. He gave an awkward speech met by silence, blank faces, and awkward laughter. #standwithgreenland

DuncinToffee · 28/03/2025 18:59

From his speech in the safety of the US base. No idea if there are protests outside.

In Greenland, Vance is doubling down on Trump’s plan to invade:

“Our message to Denmark is very simple: you have not done a good job by the people of Greenland.

“You have under invested in the people of Greenland, and you have under invested in the security architecture of this incredible, beautiful landmass filled with incredible people.

“That has to change, and because it hasn’t changed, this is why President Trump’s policy in Greenland is what it is.”

SinnerBoy · 28/03/2025 21:29

They'll have American democracy at gunpoint, whether they want it or not, the ungrateful Commies. Only Commies wouldn't want their pristine environment raped and polluted so that Americans can have a better way of life.

Serpentstooth · 28/03/2025 21:36

"This incredible beautiful landmass filled with incredible and very valuable minerals people"

WaryCrow · 28/03/2025 21:46

Serpentstooth · 28/03/2025 21:36

"This incredible beautiful landmass filled with incredible and very valuable minerals people"

That is vaguely reminiscent of the Iraq war… Do they really expect us to swallow bullshit?

Serpentstooth · 28/03/2025 21:54

It's bloody insane isn't it? They lie. We know they're lying. They know they're lying and they know that we know they're lying. There is no truth left yet if anyone says so out loud, a tirade of even more lying lies issues forth hoping to confuse everyone further. A pox on all lying fascists, it's their stock in trade.

WaryCrow · 29/03/2025 20:04

The US talk on Greenland sounds exactly like Putin before Ukraine was invaded - ‘we have to have Greenland to save us from the ambitions of all those foreign powers circling it’. As if Russia and China are close by at this point in time. And if it was a question of geographical proximity, Canada is closest.

DuncinToffee · 29/03/2025 21:11

Yes, very much Putin like

This is a video clip from Fox News

https://bsky.app/profile/implausibleblog.bsky.social/post/3llk6mdsrwk2q

Fox News normalising America taking over Greenland 😱

"If we have to burn down a few bridges with Denmark to take Greenland, we're big boys"

"We dropped a-bombs on Japan and now they're our top ally in the Pacific"

SinnerBoy · 29/03/2025 21:59

What a top of the range, deluded idiot he is. He doesn't understand that Japan was a vile regime, which raped, plundered and murdered millions and attacked America.

Greenland is none of the above.

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