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Indian meal - stop moaning and eat!

333 replies

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 12:28

I need to know if I’m going nuts, because I’ve been told I overreacted, whereas I think I was actually pretty restrained!

My dad is the kind of person who won’t say something once when five times will do. Like if you go for the weekend and he’s heard a new joke, for example, he can’t just tell you it - he’ll have to find a way to throw the punchline into several other conversations over the weekend. It’s usually a mild irritant, but sometimes he does it when he’s moaning about something; in which case it just starts to feel a bit relentless.

Anyway, I was visiting this weekend and had noticed an Indian restaurant we all like has started doing a Sunday buffet. I suggested I treat us on the Sunday to save my mum cooking. Everyone was happy to go.

It ran from 12 - 4, so we decided to go at 3, as we all like a late breakfast and late lunch on Sundays. However, it turned out this was a mistake, as it seemed like it was already winding down. Empty trays were being taken away and not replaced; there were no vegetable side dishes, only a new broken poppadoms left etc.. A bit disappointing, but no big deal - we could either go earlier next time or just not go again, right?

My dad would not let it go, ALL through the meal. Everything was a complaint. “No side dishes? It’s supposed to be a buffet!” (I’m vegetarian, so the absence of vegetable side dishes should have been an issue for me if anything - for him, the vegetable main could be a side dish.) He asked were they bringing out more poppadoms; when they said they’d finished them for the day, he looked like a child whose favourite toy had been confiscated. He kept saying, “No more poppadoms? No sides? There wasn’t even any sauces or mango chutney!”

My mum and I were both getting fed up now; she’d told him to leave it and that we just wouldn’t come again. He was still muttering and I said, “Look, I know you’re not happy, but I thought I was doing something nice, and there’s nothing we can do, so let’s just talk about something else.” He said, “Well what do you want me to do? I can’t pretend I’m enjoying it.” By this point I’m properly grinding my teeth and say, “You don’t have to pretend - just stop going over it.”

My mum and I tried to ignore him and carry on with our conversation. He starts AGAIN, saying in this sort of bewildered tone, “The poppadoms, the sides, the extras… that’s what makes an Indian! There was hardly anything! No mango chutney!”

Well, something about that sodding chutney made me snap. I got up and said, “Right, that’s it. I can either go to Sainsbury’s and BUY some mango bloody chutney, and you can have the whole jar, or we can just finish our meal in peace!!”

I’m sure you can imagine how this went down. On one hand, it had the desired effect - he did actually stop moaning. But now he’s barely talking to me at all, and my mum is doing her usual thing of making it about my reaction instead of the cause of it. I’m sick of it. Why am I being made to feel like I pushed him to “pretend” he’d enjoyed a meal, just because I didn’t want the entire event to be one endless running commentary about how awful it had all been? Most people would just say thank you, but not him.

I’m not even expecting an apology, because I know I won’t get one. But I’m certainly not giving one. And I feel like yet again, it will just end up as “let’s forget it” with nothing changing.

OP posts:
AthWat · 24/03/2025 15:38

mum2jakie · 24/03/2025 15:17

I'm a miserable bugger and even worse when hangry!! I'd be gutted if an Indian buffet had no basics such as poppadoms, chutneys and side dishes and would probably be moaning even more than your dad! They really are the best parts of an Indian meal!

Really? If someone took you to a place, and paid for you, you'd sit there upsetting them by whinging about the limitation of the buffet? Not giving a flying fuck how much you upset them as long as you managed to express how horribly disappointed you were in the free food?

Why not just eat what was there then buy yourself a takeaway with all the side dishes you could want that evening, if you felt so terribly disappointed by the experience?

AthWat · 24/03/2025 15:41

Eldermilleniallyogii · 24/03/2025 15:31

If the buffet was running 12-4 then your Dad was right to be annoyed at there being hardly any food at 3pm. I can understand why it was annoying for you if you were paying because my mother can be the same. She came with us to a restaurant that I knew she wouldn't like (not sure why she came) and she complained about all sorts do I felt she was a bit rune and ungrateful. Saying that, it sounds like your restaurant experience really was poor and perhaps you were taking it personally. It was probably annoying for him that you kept minimising what he was saying.

Would you ever complain about food someone else was paying for? Not about caterpillars in your soup or undercooked meat, but a lack of choices? Do you think that's ok? I think it's indescribably rude.The person paying can see there's a problem, if there's a problem. It's your duty to minimise it to avoid them feeling bad. How can so few people see this?

RedCatBlueCatYellowCat · 24/03/2025 15:42

One of my best meals out was at a similarly shit buffet. Because everyone else saw the funny side of how shit it was, mercilessly took the piss out of my cantankerous father and his Victor Meldrew-esque moaning. After the event, we offered some feedback to the restaurant on future improvements they could make. Meanwhile, my father's ridiculous behaviour has become a thing of legend.

Mountainfrog · 24/03/2025 15:43

EnjoythemoneyJane · 24/03/2025 13:42

Me 😂

I definitely wouldn’t have stayed if I could see it was all half empty and there were no sides left, so I do get where he was coming from.

However if someone else is paying for your lunch, you STFU and act graciously, no matter how disappointing it might be. Even if the person who’s paying is mortified - in fact, especially then - you talk up how it’s all fine and great and thank you very much, don’t worry about it.

Someone moaning non-stop in that situation is not just being a PITA, they’re being bloody rude and ungrateful.

This
my Df is similar with food, even if there’s nothing objectively wrong with it, it’s like he gets something in his mind and if it doesn’t live up to his expectation, he goes all quiet and surly and pulls faces like we’ve made him eat the contents of the compost bin. I find it makes me edgy/scared to book anything in case this happens. It is upsetting because then no one can enjoy the occasion or the company. My DH is the opposite, very good at making the best of things and seeing the funny side.

Monkeymacaroni · 24/03/2025 15:44

I could eat three courses in an hour 🤣

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:49

rookiemere · 24/03/2025 15:27

I don’t really understand you all sitting there annoyed by the lack of poppadums, mango chutney and veg curries and nobody thought to actually ask the staff for these things.

Maybe your Dad was hoping as the host, you would do this rather than saying you would go to Sainsbury’s.

We did ask. That’s how we knew they weren’t bringing any more out. It’s in my OP.

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DancingOctopus · 24/03/2025 15:50

Your Dad sounds rather like mine, particularly with repeating stories over and over again. Going out to eat with him was a nightmare and he would criticise the experience for a long time afterwards.
With him, I think it was because he wasn't used to going out to eat and felt intimidated by the experience ( I am not suggesting this is the issue with your Dad).
Dad used to say " When I have gone, you will say ' I really miss the old fool'". He's right.

IlooklikeNigella · 24/03/2025 15:52

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:20

I put the waiter in a headlock and made him beg for mercy. When eventually he began to struggle to breathe, I told him I’d let him go if he fetched more poppadoms immediately. He couldn’t speak, but he just about had enough space to nod, so I let him go.

This thread is making me laugh so much OP, I know you're in bad form but thank you. So many idiots here.

We once took DH to a restaurant we love for Father's Day. It had always been fabulous up to that day. They were putting on a bbq instead of the usual menu. The whole experience was pretty rubbish, crappy food, no cutlery on the tables, the waitress forgetting his glass of wine after two reminders etc. He had a right face on him but when he started moaning that they should have put the vacuum cleaner away I said "listen, will you give it a rest, I know it's not as good as it could be but please don't make it worse, we are treating you after all." He did stop then in fairness to him but I do have some photos at the table with his grumpy face on.

It is very annoying. Be gracious!

AngelicKaty · 24/03/2025 15:56

mum2jakie · 24/03/2025 15:17

I'm a miserable bugger and even worse when hangry!! I'd be gutted if an Indian buffet had no basics such as poppadoms, chutneys and side dishes and would probably be moaning even more than your dad! They really are the best parts of an Indian meal!

But would you be endlessly moaning to your DD who was picking up the bill?

Shoutinglagerlagerlager · 24/03/2025 15:57

I’m on your side about the incessant moaning but you were really rude to your Dad. I can’t imagine speaking to my parents like that.

AngelicKaty · 24/03/2025 15:58

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:20

I put the waiter in a headlock and made him beg for mercy. When eventually he began to struggle to breathe, I told him I’d let him go if he fetched more poppadoms immediately. He couldn’t speak, but he just about had enough space to nod, so I let him go.

Love it OP! 😂 You plainly didn't inherit your sense of humour from your Dad!

DingDingRound3 · 24/03/2025 15:59

Sunshineandoranges · 24/03/2025 14:15

I’m with you op. My children treated me to a birthday lunch. The foot I chose was horrible. I didn’t mention it at all. I think in your dad’s situation I would have moaned at first then said but it’s a lovely treat anyway,

Was pig foot or cow foot, I quite like pig 😁

GameOfJones · 24/03/2025 16:03

Bogginsthe3rd · 24/03/2025 15:26

This is why I only dine at Michelin star restaurants when dining out. If it's not going to be better than our own delicious home cooked food, then why bother? Going to a buffet an hour before closing sounds like asking for trouble and if it's awful the whole way through then why pretend it isn't. I'm with your father really but tbh you all should have just left of every aspect was substandard.

I'm trying to work out whether this is satire.....🤣🤣🤣

AthWat · 24/03/2025 16:05

Shoutinglagerlagerlager · 24/03/2025 15:57

I’m on your side about the incessant moaning but you were really rude to your Dad. I can’t imagine speaking to my parents like that.

She didn't speak to your parents like that. She spoke to her father like that. He deserved it. Your parents might not. But when you're an adult, you should really base the way you speak to them on the way they behave, not on the fact that they are your parents. Parents run the full gamut of society from the worst of people to the best.

Melonmango70 · 24/03/2025 16:07

Until I read this post, it wouldn't in the least occur to me that the buffet wouldn't be fully available if I got there at 3. If you go for a carvery that's served from 1-4 (for example), do you expect to just eat the remains if you rock up at 3? Or do you expect the same options as everyone else had in the preceding two hours? In both instances I'd expect to have freshly cooked food avaiable right up until the end of the buffet serving time (4pm!). I'd be disappointed and put it down to experience, but I know for a fact my mother would have acted in the same way as the OPs father, and I feel her pain! You live and learn, c'est la vie!

TorroFerney · 24/03/2025 16:08

godmum56 · 24/03/2025 14:01

because she has known him for long enough to know he won't.

She can still be irked. Now, should she have taken him out/treated him knowing what he is like, that’s a different question.

we are always hopeful our relatives will behave differently this time!

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 16:14

Shoutinglagerlagerlager · 24/03/2025 15:57

I’m on your side about the incessant moaning but you were really rude to your Dad. I can’t imagine speaking to my parents like that.

He had it coming! I’m not going to put up with that shit just because he’s my father.

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Ilovelifeverymuch · 24/03/2025 16:18

Shoutinglagerlagerlager · 24/03/2025 15:57

I’m on your side about the incessant moaning but you were really rude to your Dad. I can’t imagine speaking to my parents like that.

I agree it's rude but I also see her view due the pent up frustration. It's not just from the day but built up over time with the incessant need to bang on and on and on about something. I know someone like that and it's freaking annoying. I heard you the first time so shut up. Talking about it 50 times isn't going to change anything.

And her mom seems to have accepted it as her lot in life and enables him.

Yes she should have tried to bite her tongue but I also see how frustration can build up till it spills out.

It just be really bad when a daughter gets to that point with her father so he also needs to work on himself. Moaners are annoying and suck the life out of people close to them.

Sotired222 · 24/03/2025 16:24

I can't stand people like this. Either take it up with the appropriate people or shut your mouth. You certainly won't be taking him out to eat ever again.

Sotired222 · 24/03/2025 16:26

The thing is they don't because they are actually cowards and just take it out on their wife/family. Horrible behaviour!

Mirabai · 24/03/2025 16:28

I think you needed to clarify with the restaurant whether they were just open until 4pm for lunch or whether they were actually serving fresh lunch until then. I don’t think I’ve ever pitched up at a restaurant at 3 and expect to have lunch unless it’s Christmas and I’d booked a table. (But that’s different as it’s not a buffet).

But your dad sounds like pia nonetheless.

Baconmaple · 24/03/2025 16:28

Half the people say you are being unreasonable so maybe you should forgive your dad and realise that while 50% of people think he deserved to be told off by you the other 50% don't think that.
I think a lot of people would repeatedly comment as the buffet was do lacking compared to what you would expect. I do think if I was you as host I would have complained to the restaurant

Smallmercies · 24/03/2025 16:30

JitterbugFairy · 24/03/2025 12:36

Not surprised he was pissed off. They should have been bringing food out until 4pm.

Or else halving the price for the last hour.

VickyEadieofThigh · 24/03/2025 16:34

IGetWeak · 24/03/2025 15:14

I’m assuming pedantry rather than stupidity here. You know very well what someone saying “My treat” means.

OP, I've also been on the receiving end of doing a nice thing, only for the recipient(s) to complain horribly, embarrass the fuck out of me and thereby throw the whole thing back in my face.

You're right to be pissed off.

MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 24/03/2025 16:51

Just old blokes innit. Once they've got (what they feel is) a perfectly legitimate complaint, emotional intelligence or awareness of the bigger picture goes out the window.
Arguing, reasoning or even agreeing with them doesn't help. It kind of just has to come out. Ad nauseam.
Curious to know if anyone's found a way round it.