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WhHAT SHOULD I DO HELP PLEASE

147 replies

WarmDreamer · 23/03/2025 13:35

My grandson had a boy screaming at him trying to provoke my grandson to react as he has adhd we told him if kids do this then the best thing he could do is not to do anything and just walk away (which he done) the other child managed to run back into school and take a knife and ĥe rean at my grandson the teacher saw grabbed him and grabbed the knife the school rang my son and said that he didn't need to come in they were dealing with it the child has been sent home with an internal seclusion my son asked if they had reported this to the police and now the school has stopped any correspondence with my son and his wife he now doesn't want to send his children back to the school as he feels his children are not safe does he notify police himself? Does he send his kids back to school? Does he inform social services ? He really is at a l9ss as what would be the best thing to do I find it hard that the school let's these children do whatever they please some run out of school some swear and throw things around which my sons have done in the past one has already changed school and now is in a special school the other is still waiting for paperwork to be looked at by the special school but I will still have 2 chiĺdren at the school and this happened on primary school the children are 10 years old.

OP posts:
Riaanna · 23/03/2025 17:37

WarmDreamer · 23/03/2025 17:34

My son doesn't want him to go back to THAT school he is waiting for a placement in special school where his twin goes this school let's the kids get out of the class access everywhere playground other classes nursery library etc the kids swear at the teachers and in one instance made a teacher cry then refuse to teach thus class no one is saying my grandson us an angel he has been internally excluded where he had to go into a class one on one but was fir disrupting the other kids he was then put on a half day timetable which my son refused saying full day or nothing then the school sent a letter to my son saying child 1 93%
Child 2 91.5% and
Child 3 98% attendance saying this was unacceptable as they were not meeting the average attendance tbh I don't think the school like my son or his family due to my son always going to the school asking them for help with the twins but they were never doing what they set out my son has now got 1win in special needs and the 1 we are talking about is on a waiting list so my son thinks if he gets intouch with social services to see if they could help to get him into the special needs school by escalation

Social services have no sway. Based on this I think you need to be realistic about your families level of need. There is clearly an ongoing issue that isn’t being shared here.

summershere99 · 23/03/2025 17:53

ExtraOnions · 23/03/2025 13:53

The police most probably won’t be interested in a 10 year old, with an in school incident, that didn’t lead to any injuries.

The school need to tighten up thier processes that allowed a child to re-access school after lunch, pick up a knife, take the knife outside, then try to stab someone. I am stunned that this was able to happen.

That’s just not true. They will be interested, it’s criminal behaviour and needs to be reported to the police. The school should do that themselves but parents can also do it. It’s a massive safeguarding issue too and should be dealt with v seriously.

Vdlormp · 23/03/2025 18:00

CoffeeFluff · 23/03/2025 13:38

This is absolutely impossible to read.

Rude. Someone is distressed about something and looking for help. If you can't read it, either don't comment or work a bit harder to make sense of it.

SmileEachDay · 23/03/2025 18:02

Hoppinggreen · 23/03/2025 15:31

Well I hope there is the provision to Home school then and/or pay fines for non attendance because PX ing a Pupil can take months or even more.
And THATS only if all boxes are ticked on a very lengthy and in depth process

Not true.
Once the decision has been made to PEx, the child is suspended from site, from the 5th day the LA are required to provide education. A panel hearing has to happen within 15 days. At that point the decision is either upheld or overturned.
If it’s upheld, the child is educated by the LA in a PRU until it is appropriate for a longer term placement which may or may not be a different mainstream, depending on circumstances.
If it’s overturned, the child returns to school.

Getting to the decision to PEX for persistent disruptive behaviour is a long slog. But in the case of a one off serious incident, it’s a pretty quick process - with a shit ton of paperwork in the background.

itsgettingweird · 23/03/2025 18:25

Kate England. I had loads of postshere at the time as was a real shitshow. Back in 2016.

Woodywoodpecker321 · 23/03/2025 19:11

If this was my situation and the school stopped responding I would be walking in there first thing on Monday morning and demanding a meeting. I would also ask them if they had informed the police. I'd be unwilling to send my child back to that school unless the school shows they have safeguarding in place around that boys behaviour.

DisabledDemon · 23/03/2025 19:17

Police and also the Governors. Drive it forward. This child is a menace. You kick the Governors until they can't ignore you. Believe you me, they don't like bad publicity, which is your next step.

GuevarasBeret · 23/03/2025 19:51

Hoppinggreen · 23/03/2025 14:53

Dont be daft
No school wants a violent child there but its very very hard to PX any child
I am currently involved with a case where a 10 year old tried to set fire to the school and the process is long and difficult
Anyone saying "just expel them" clearly does not know how this works.

So school call the police when their property is damaged?
What about a child with a knife? Or are the victims parents expected to do that?

Hoppinggreen · 23/03/2025 21:08

GuevarasBeret · 23/03/2025 19:51

So school call the police when their property is damaged?
What about a child with a knife? Or are the victims parents expected to do that?

No, the school did not involve the Police in the incident I mentioned.
There was an incident where a child allegedly brought a knife to school, nobody was hurt but for a variety of reasons we could not PX for that.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 23/03/2025 22:24

.............so my son thinks if he gets in touch with social services, he can see if they could help to get him into the special needs school by escalation

OP is that the only reason you want to involve social services? They won't be able to do anything about the special needs school placement.

Snoringdogsfarting · 24/03/2025 18:05

Apologise if it’s already been said but the age of criminal responsibility in the UK is 10 (apart from Scotland where it’s 12), so yes, the police would be “interested” and 100% should be informed. Why would anyone question if it’s ok for a child to threaten anyone with a knife, on school premises or wherever. This is categorically NOT ok

Laura95167 · 24/03/2025 18:30

I don't understand how you know DGS was chased with a paring knife but not who by. I can't understand why the school would specify the type of knife?

Can't DGS say who chased him with it?

I'd maybe make a complaint to the board of governors, and make a 101 report.

Jumpers4goalposts · 24/03/2025 19:13

You son doesn’t need the name of the child to report to the police. He can report it to the police and give the information he knows, it’s then for the police to speak to his son and to the school etc.

Dogsbreath7 · 24/03/2025 20:02

I would report to ofsted. Contact school governors and complain also local authority. The school should not be ignoring the parent- their child could have been killed. They need to know the school is a safe place.

ffs how is a knife available freely in a school?

Pippyls67 · 24/03/2025 23:39

You must report this to the police. Your grandson is in danger if you don’t. Do it ASAP!

hcee19 · 25/03/2025 00:26

Children from 10 yrs of age can be prosecuted. This boy did indeed pull a knife intending to cause harm. You must inform the police, in fact the school should have done, because it is a safe guarding issue. If this child isn't dealt with early, goodness knows what his future holds for him.....You need to look after your child, your child comes before this child thug...

tillymintt · 25/03/2025 00:36

you need to write this out better, it's hard to read.

StartEngine · 25/03/2025 00:38

tillymintt · 25/03/2025 00:36

you need to write this out better, it's hard to read.

Was it hard to read all the posts that have been written since her OP over a day ago?

FiveShelties · 25/03/2025 00:51

tillymintt · 25/03/2025 00:36

you need to write this out better, it's hard to read.

Really, that is all you got from OP and her many subsequent posts.
🙄

MoveOverMoon · 25/03/2025 06:26

tillymintt · 25/03/2025 00:36

you need to write this out better, it's hard to read.

I’d rather read a post with mistakes in than unnecessarily rude posts.

GreenSkyes · 25/03/2025 06:54

If you report to the police, the school will tell the police who it was.
I'd report to Ofsted or council, kids shouldn't have easy access to knives.
I'm not sure if you're getting the full story though. Seems odd that the school wouldn't have a meeting with your son over such a serious incident, they'd have procedures to follow and a meeting with your grandsons responsible adults I'd assume, would be part of this. Or, the school could just be awful.
Good luck op

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 26/03/2025 13:20

CoffeeFluff · 23/03/2025 13:38

This is absolutely impossible to read.

Perhaps the librarian can show you the "Dick and Jane" section. You might be able to read those better.

A rude and crude post like yours deserves a rude and crude response. GTHU

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