WhHAT SHOULD I DO HELP PLEASE

[WarmDreamer]

My grandson had a boy screaming at him trying to provoke my grandson to react as he has adhd we told him if kids do this then the best thing he could do is not to do anything and just walk away (which he done) the other child managed to run back into school and take a knife and ĥe rean at my grandson the teacher saw grabbed him and grabbed the knife the school rang my son and said that he didn't need to come in they were dealing with it the child has been sent home with an internal seclusion my son asked if they had reported this to the police and now the school has stopped any correspondence with my son and his wife he now doesn't want to send his children back to the school as he feels his children are not safe does he notify police himself? Does he send his kids back to school? Does he inform social services ? He really is at a l9ss as what would be the best thing to do I find it hard that the school let's these children do whatever they please some run out of school some swear and throw things around which my sons have done in the past one has already changed school and now is in a special school the other is still waiting for paperwork to be looked at by the special school but I will still have 2 chiĺdren at the school and this happened on primary school the children are 10 years old.

Has your grandson's mother been informed?

What's her view of it?

Aquapeer he wants the name of the child so he can report him to the police and social services he doesn't want to ask his son as he has special needs that r complex

Schools really don’t like involving the police, however, I’d consider this to be something the parents absolutely ought to follow up, particularly if the school has stopped responding to the parents.

Oh come on now.

He just needs to report the incident.

The school will fill in the gaps regarding name etc 🙄

Teapotitties no he hasn't as his mother is not allowed to ever contact him via court order

But obviously you don’t need that? The vast majority of crimes reported to the police don’t involve the victim providing the perpetrators full name first

Thank-you cherrysoup

So your poor grandchild has been threatened with a paring knife and not a single adult in his family or his life is willing to advocate for him?

Jesus.

Thank you @FortyElephants the op's post was understandably hysterical but very difficult to make sense of.

No way would I let the children go back to that school. The police do need to be told and yes social services.

OP, no idea why you are getting such hostile responses.

It is quite commonplace to find yourself in a situation where an incident happens at school, school say they have dealt with it but personally you aren't comfortable with how they have done so and wonder if you should take it further. This happens to a lot of people and you have done nothing wrong to ask for advice about this situation on a parenting website.

In my view I would go back to the school (or suggest your son does so - I am assuming that you are supporting him raising the kids as their mum isn't involved?) and tell them you aren't satisfied and are thinking of involving the police - this should get you more of a response from the school.

It's difficult to know when you get a child's account of an incident, how serious it actually was, as children can be prone to exaggeration. So your best bet I think is to go back to the school in the first instance and try to find out more. But don't rule out involving the police if the school still aren't very helpful.

Good luck.

What does that have to do with anything? Your son needs to inform the police of all that he knows about the incident. It is then up to the police to investigate. What is holding your son back from doing what he obviously needs to do?

The school are legally not allowed to give ANY of this information out op.

If you report to the police (I assume your dgs knows the boy's name, otherwise the school can be forced to disclose by the police)they can act accordingly.

Your approach needs to be WHAT are the school doing to ensure the safety of dgs at school/WHAT measures are in place to ensure this will not happen again/WHAT measures have been taken to prevent another incident happening to my dgc.

They cannot tell you what has happened to the other boy, or anything at all about his behavior or personal circumstances. You need to reframe this as a safeguarding issue for your dgs - has the incident been reported to the safeguarding officer, has the LADO been informed.

Your son has every right to speak to the police. I'd school are refusing to engage you should make a formal complaint and cc in the governors, if no response or unsatisfactory response report to ofsted.

No it isn't and don't be so ridiculous and rude. Anybody with even a basic grasp of the English language can read the OP's words, all in English and in a correct grammatical order, and work out exactly what she means.

Do you genuinely think that, because her punctuation might be slightly wrong at one or two points, this entitles you to be insulting?

I suggest you get some support with your reading skills if you can't understand this post.

I can't stand bullies and people who are spiteful to strangers for the sake of it. Some people are different to you, and have had different levels of education. Deal with it.

Of course your son needs to inform the police.

Well said 👏

Why does it confuse you? A child of any age school age can take a knife from a kitchen draw and hide it. We had year 3 pupilsfound to have knives hidden in their bags. They were ordinary table knives, which couldn't have inflicted any harm, but they had still taken and put them in their bags'for self protection'.

This. You're right it's just bullying. No need for it.

I don't think I'd be sending my child back to a school where a teacher had to disarm a boy who had a paring knife and was intent on stabbing my child. That child with the paring knife is still going to be there as the school is obviously not planning on doing much given their refusal to even communicate with your son. I'd report the incident to the police even if I didn't have his name. I don't really care about exactly why horrid little brats act like that either.

I was once picking my primary school aged child for a dentist appointment at lunchtime. What I found going on in that school was so chilling, my son left that day and never returned. I found bullying, lax supervision and a 10 year old making a fairly determined attempt to garotte a terrified girl in an otherwise empty classroom. (Yes. obviously I stopped him.) He moved to a new smaller school where he was much happier.

How nasty.

School is dealing with the incident. They don't have to keep your son informed at every stage, but they do need to let him know what they are doing to ensure such an incident doesn't happen again.

I would not consider moving a year 6 child to another school, and he will be better protected and cared for at the school that he knows and that knows him.

Your son should report this to the police.
all the details he has - place, date, time, head’s contact details. Leave the police to investigate.

he should also demand a meeting with the safeguarding lead to discuss how your grandson is going to be safeguarded when he returns to school. I personally wouldn’t let grandson go back to school until the family are certain that all reasonable steps are being taken.

Don’t expect to be able to find out anything about the other child. His family background etc are irrelevant to you and your grandson.

Of course they don't
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So what happened? You said "sent home with an internal seclusion"?
He was either suspended - sent home, or internally secluded.

It’s not nasty. It’s so hard to decipher posts when posters decide against using any kind of punctuation. If they find it difficult, this is a tool that could help them and they might receive more responses to their posts as more people can then read and understand it

The school will not tell you what they are doing with relation to another child, that is confidential.
You do need to be sure your child is safe at school (or your son does) so he has a right to ask school about that.
I am not sure involving The Police would achieve much as they will leave it to School to deal with