WhHAT SHOULD I DO HELP PLEASE

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My grandson had a boy screaming at him trying to provoke my grandson to react as he has adhd we told him if kids do this then the best thing he could do is not to do anything and just walk away (which he done) the other child managed to run back into school and take a knife and ĥe rean at my grandson the teacher saw grabbed him and grabbed the knife the school rang my son and said that he didn't need to come in they were dealing with it the child has been sent home with an internal seclusion my son asked if they had reported this to the police and now the school has stopped any correspondence with my son and his wife he now doesn't want to send his children back to the school as he feels his children are not safe does he notify police himself? Does he send his kids back to school? Does he inform social services ? He really is at a l9ss as what would be the best thing to do I find it hard that the school let's these children do whatever they please some run out of school some swear and throw things around which my sons have done in the past one has already changed school and now is in a special school the other is still waiting for paperwork to be looked at by the special school but I will still have 2 chiĺdren at the school and this happened on primary school the children are 10 years old.

My ds had a knife pulled in him in a classroom. School were useless and police refused to get involved as school issue.

if you don’t feel your children/grandchildren are safe then remove them and ring them in sick under safeguarding.

I did and got my son moved to a different school where he thrived. (My ds has asd)

You do not need the child’s details to make a police report. The police would contact the school. Most schools in this situation would advise the parent to report it themselves.

Hang on! The police refused to get involved because it was a school issue?!
Where was this?

Your son needs to report this incident to the police and make a detailed log of all correspondence with the school. Don’t let them try and brush this under the carpet. I would also be contacting ofsted, the local authority and the board of governors.

Well said.

Instead of offering advice, you’re trying to shame her about either her son not knowing what to do or whether or not she should be asking here? Ok.

OP - I’d complain directly to the chair of governors.

there needs to be an investigation if a child has managed to take a pairing knife from the school kitchen.

I suspect the school has gone quiet because they are very worried about the outcome

Clearly you have had a bad experience and I am sorry about that. But it is not everyone’s experience of every school. Schools have a duty of care towards all pupils, including those whose home upbringing and behaviour is outside the norm. Schools really don’t go out of their way to “protect” such children, very often they are managing their behaviour, or at least trying to , with very limited resources and support. Behind the scenes they are probably moving heaven and earth to get the child into a school where their needs can be met in the hope of diverting their poor start into something resembling an education.

All children however difficult, challenging or even downright obnoxious have a right to privacy so the school will not discuss the child with other parents. They also have a right to education.

It’s not, it’s not punctuated well but it’s far from impossible as is quite evident by the many other people who have responded. Perhaps your reading skills are not at a high enough level to cope with it, or perhaps you were just trying to shame someone in a traumatic situation?

I am no expert but I would not be sending my child into that school again. I would notify the police, even if you don’t have a name.

I would get your son to put it in writing to the school and the local authority that they are unable to provide a safe learning environment and as such his child cannot attend.

It’s unacceptable that this happened at all, and the way the school have handled it is wrong too.

What a nightmare for you all OP, your poor grandson.

When you say they have stopped responding, when did it happen. If it was Thursday and emails were on Friday there won't be a response until Monday

So we would call the police as soon as one child grabbed a knife. Secondly, we would check that your DGS was physically okay. The kids would be kept separate while evidence/information was gathered. Parents would then be called. No names would be disclosed. The child who grabbed the knife would be suspended. We would cooperate fully with the police. We would write up the incident, but certainly wouldn't be speaking with parents over the weekend about it or on a Friday night. Once the kids were safely home and my report logged, no I wouldn't be continuing the conversation in my free time.

For goodness sake. Your son needs to step up and be a parent. Go into school first thing in the morning and demand to see the headteacher!!

No it doesn’t. You can perm ex incredibly quickly if there is just cause.

Sorry that was a typo he has a 6 and 7 Yr old still there it was called a paring knife when they rang my son to pick him up from school at which point he asked how did he get it and the teacher said when they asked the child he said it was on the table in the food hall people may think that my son is being stupid but he did ask to speak to the head but she refused to comment on the situation as they were dealing with it with his parents

Hopping green the paperwork has now been recieved by the special school so my son has asked does his son go to school with anxiety that the boy is going to get him or does he keep him at home safe what would u do in this situation

Not really
You have to convene a panel of at least 3 Governors to uphold it and have a HUGE paper trail, you also have to have written statements from various stakeholders and parents have to be allowed to participate.
If proper procedure isn't followed the child cannot be PX'd

Trust me I do believe you. We’ve had all sorts my kids have had to deal with, and the school always seems to side with the child with clear behavioural issues due to them alms or always being “at risk” of children, despite them being a risk to others!

Im just saying I wouldn’t risk this and would draw the line at a knife being pulled!

Thankfully its not my call.
I would not allow my child in any environment where I was worried for their safety though.

I understood perfectly what you were saying. Ignore others who were being snobby. Anyway, more importantly, yes I would reportbto police and no I wouldn't send child back to school. Not sure about reporting to SW as I've no real knowledge of what role they could play, unless child already has SW help.

I'd keep him home for now until your son speaks to the police and gets their advice.

Has your son been threatening to the school or staff or demanding the other child's name?

I'm wondering why they've gone cold on him.

I'd make it very clear there is a serious safeguarding concern and I would want to know details of how they were going to make school safe for your grandson before sending him back in.

Try to play it down to your grandson, you don't want him to think all school is scary.

My son doesn't want him to go back to THAT school he is waiting for a placement in special school where his twin goes this school let's the kids get out of the class access everywhere playground other classes nursery library etc the kids swear at the teachers and in one instance made a teacher cry then refuse to teach thus class no one is saying my grandson us an angel he has been internally excluded where he had to go into a class one on one but was fir disrupting the other kids he was then put on a half day timetable which my son refused saying full day or nothing then the school sent a letter to my son saying child 1 93%
Child 2 91.5% and
Child 3 98% attendance saying this was unacceptable as they were not meeting the average attendance tbh I don't think the school like my son or his family due to my son always going to the school asking them for help with the twins but they were never doing what they set out my son has now got 1win in special needs and the 1 we are talking about is on a waiting list so my son thinks if he gets intouch with social services to see if they could help to get him into the special needs school by escalation

This isn’t exclusion territory. If, as you say, the school left a sharp knife out for a child to get (I’m not sure I believe that) it’s a school issue. But not a child issue.

Yes, it sounds like a good idea for your GS to stay at home tomorrow. Apart from anything else, he's probably still very shocked and upset.