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Is there cultural differences between the 4 countries of the UK?

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Lynsey953 · 20/03/2025 20:59

I often see a lot on the news about British Culture and UK culture but I know that Scotland has a different education system to England and Wales as well as higher taxes paid to the government and a lot of "free" things paid for by these taxes i.e. free prescriptions, free university tuition etc ... A lot of people in Scotland also identify as Scottish, not British. Do you think this means Scottish people have a different cultural identity than English or Welsh people?

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celticnations · 12/05/2025 20:13

Biggest difference?

We don't vote for nutters like Johnson or Farage.

BethDuttonYeHaw · 12/05/2025 20:18

Absolutely.

I split my time between Scotland and London for work and notice massive cultural differences.

i also find differences in different areas of England when visiting relatives.

generally I find I have more in common culturally with people from Northern Ireland than England.

i don’t know enough Welsh people to
comment on that.

BethDuttonYeHaw · 12/05/2025 20:18

celticnations · 12/05/2025 20:13

Biggest difference?

We don't vote for nutters like Johnson or Farage.

Oh but there are a significant number that do.

Cumberlandsausagedog · 12/05/2025 20:21

celticnations · 12/05/2025 20:13

Biggest difference?

We don't vote for nutters like Johnson or Farage.

The Scot’s vote for theSNP though who are terrible. We are taxed to the hilt for an appalling education system and an NHS where you are 100 times more likely to be waiting 2 years for an operation than in England. Scotland could be such a great country with a halfway competent government.

Mercurial123 · 12/05/2025 20:34

Sminty2 · 20/03/2025 21:07

I feel, that the Scots, Welsh and Irish are proud of their history and culture. The English seem ashamed of theirs; the empire, etc. Could be wrong but my Gaelic relatives are proud of their heritage.

Scotland was involved in the slave trade.

JaninaDuszejko · 12/05/2025 22:20

The 1707 union was popular in Scotland because it gave Scots access to the English Empire (after the Darien Venture failed spectacularly). You just need to walk round Glasgow city centre to see how enthusiastic the Scots were about Empire, 62 street names are linked to slavery. Some are obvious because they are named after colonies: Jamacia Street, Tobago Street, Virginia Street & Place, Kingston. Others are named after the 'Tobacco Lords', e.g. Buchanan Street (for those who don't know Glasgow Buchanan Street is the most prestigious shopping street in the city and Scotland), Cochrane Street, Glassford Street.

steff13 · 12/05/2025 22:32

In the US there are cultural differences between all 50 states. Surely there would be differences between different countries.

Wanderdust · 12/05/2025 22:38

Sadly, I think the culture is becoming more and more different in Scotland and England. I don't know how to describe it but I feel it (my brother lives down south and his attitude towards some things is definitely shaped by where he lives).

Nottodaty · 12/05/2025 22:39

My Dad is Scottish and even though he has lived in England for over 45 years he will always say he is Scottish.

My Mum is half Irish half English - she takes great pride in the Irish parts but always states she is English.

Mu husband born in Wales but again has lived in England most of his life and will say he’s English- he does say he feel a cultural difference example is the Welsh language is used much more now but his Gran parents or his parents never spoke it (or learnt to). When visiting my family in Glasgow he also notes slight cultural differences. Especially with weddings- definitely had some fun learning the dancing and was amazed that all knew what to do!

I’m born and raised in English I say im British. I don’t notice cultural differences but it’s normal to me as I’m close to both English and Scottish family so it just feels normal & I don’t really see the differences.

Maddie05 · 13/05/2025 00:50

Cumberlandsausagedog · 12/05/2025 20:21

The Scot’s vote for theSNP though who are terrible. We are taxed to the hilt for an appalling education system and an NHS where you are 100 times more likely to be waiting 2 years for an operation than in England. Scotland could be such a great country with a halfway competent government.

"100 times more likely to be waiting 2 years for an operation than England"? Where have you got this statistic from?
Why do you feel the education system in Scotland is appalling?

Seymour5 · 13/05/2025 06:41

Maddie05 · 13/05/2025 00:50

"100 times more likely to be waiting 2 years for an operation than England"? Where have you got this statistic from?
Why do you feel the education system in Scotland is appalling?

Education in Scotland used to be highly respected. I am Scottish, and when we moved to England many years ago I was a bit disappointed that the DC wouldn’t go to Scottish schools.

But over the years there has been quite a decline in standards. Academic results in Scotland are lower than the overall UK scores. A bit better than Wales, but quite a bit below England.

datamap-scotland.co.uk/2024/08/scotland-declining-education-attainment-pisa-2022/#:~:text=In%20contrast%2C%20Scotland%20manages%20the,Reading%20score%20%3D%20494%2C%2013th

Maddie05 · 13/05/2025 08:20

Seymour5 · 13/05/2025 06:41

Education in Scotland used to be highly respected. I am Scottish, and when we moved to England many years ago I was a bit disappointed that the DC wouldn’t go to Scottish schools.

But over the years there has been quite a decline in standards. Academic results in Scotland are lower than the overall UK scores. A bit better than Wales, but quite a bit below England.

datamap-scotland.co.uk/2024/08/scotland-declining-education-attainment-pisa-2022/#:~:text=In%20contrast%2C%20Scotland%20manages%20the,Reading%20score%20%3D%20494%2C%2013th

But English schools are taught to a test like the American system whereas Scottish schools are taught using the creative method like Scandinavian schools. If you teach children to a test their results will be higher but their overall ability to think will be lower.

Zanatdy · 13/05/2025 08:40

I grew up in North Wales and have lived in South London for 25yrs now. But I see little differences, apart from what you’d expect with north / south.

KnittyNell · 13/05/2025 08:46

MarxistMags · 20/03/2025 21:17

Definitely! All 4 countries are the same but very different. I'm Scottish and feel insulted to be described as English. When on holiday abroad I always make a point of saying I'm Scottish not English.

How sad!

healthybychristmas · 13/05/2025 09:03

It was the British empire not the English empire!

sparrowflewdown · 13/05/2025 10:15

KnittyNell · 13/05/2025 08:46

How sad!

Yes, but still happy to take from the English purse!

BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 13/05/2025 10:22

sparrowflewdown · 13/05/2025 10:15

Yes, but still happy to take from the English purse!

Meanwhile, England doesn't benefit at all from Scotland's oil and gas reserves, eh?

Genevieva · 13/05/2025 10:26

Subtle differences. But also commonalities between areas. Eg Glasgow, Liverpool and Belfast have more on common with each other than Glasgow has with Edinburgh or Liverpool with London for example. The East of Scotland and the East of England are both more Eurosceptic than other parts of each country. West Cornwall and the West of Wales share common concerns not felt in the Home Counties.

HamptonPlace · 13/05/2025 10:32

Sminty2 · 20/03/2025 21:07

I feel, that the Scots, Welsh and Irish are proud of their history and culture. The English seem ashamed of theirs; the empire, etc. Could be wrong but my Gaelic relatives are proud of their heritage.

Surely the welsh are just england's pet? Never a kingdom or historical centrala government. Little 'englanders' essentially?

HamptonPlace · 13/05/2025 10:35

latetothefisting · 20/03/2025 21:15

I'm surprised you've put Scotland vs Eng & Wales, I would think Wales and Scotland (and to some extent NI but due to its specific history that has its own very distinct culture that is separate again to any of the other 3) have more in common than either of the others and England - Wales also has things like free prescriptions, most people I know would identify as Welsh over British if given the choice, we also have our own parliament and representatives rather than 'just' Westminster, etc.

Even in terms of the education system, while E&W have the same system of GCSEs/A levels etc, Wales is more similar to Scotland in that there are no grammar schools (and far fewer private schools) which I think is much more relevant/impactful in terms of social class/diversity and therefore overall 'culture' than starting/finishing school a few months later and having slightly different exams

Wales is also different in that Welsh is compulsory, and there are lots of welsh medium/joint language schools, whereas Scots Gaelic may be taught in some schools but afaik isn't compulsory - a different language (even if not all of the population is fluent) has a huge effect on culture.

plenty of private schools in scotland!! and there are two non-English languages, Scots and Gaelic, the former having had a much more impact than the latter (but much less known outwith scotland...)

HamptonPlace · 13/05/2025 10:48

JaninaDuszejko · 20/03/2025 23:03

So I'm Scottish but have lived in England for most of my adult life. There are multiple cultural differences.

  1. Language. Scots speak Gaelic or Scots.
  2. Education. In Scotland you start school later, and finish earlier. University is 4 years and St Andrews, Aberdeen, Glasgow and Edinburgh are all older than Durham. The principles behind the Curriculum for Excellence are very different to the principles behind the National Curriculum. Children sit different exams at different ages, and breadth is maintained for longer so there isn't the same two cultures you get in England between the sciences and the humanities. The Scottish private schools are not as elitist as the English private schools and there's a longer history of people bettering themselves through education and empire.
  3. Law. There is the Children's Panel system for children. There are Advocates not Barristers. There's the 'not proven' verdict. The qualifications to practice law are different.
  4. Religion. Scotland is a Presbyterian (Calvinist) protestant country. The church is not hierarchical, there are no bishops and no cathedrals.
  5. Sport. Scots play golf, shinty, curling. We don't play cricket
  6. Politics. The government is devolved in Scotland. Scotland is generally more left leaning than England. Scotland didn't want Brexit.
  7. Marriage. Gravestones have the surname women were born with. The profession of the mother of the bride and groom is included on the marriage certificates.
  8. Most importantly, the water tastes amazingand the Scots talk to everyone

4 - incorrect (unless you are classifying by 'establishment' vs how many actually attend church. Bishops, Cathedrals etc in both Catholic and Episcopalian churches. And there are many 'church of scotland' churches e.g. St Giles which retain the name 'cathedral')
5 - incorrect, lots of people play cricket in Scotland
7 -didn't know, interesting!
8a - agree 8b a lot of Scots wouldn't say that about Edinburghers!

JHound · 13/05/2025 10:50

Lynsey953 · 20/03/2025 20:59

I often see a lot on the news about British Culture and UK culture but I know that Scotland has a different education system to England and Wales as well as higher taxes paid to the government and a lot of "free" things paid for by these taxes i.e. free prescriptions, free university tuition etc ... A lot of people in Scotland also identify as Scottish, not British. Do you think this means Scottish people have a different cultural identity than English or Welsh people?

I think every nation will have multiple cultures within said nation (even homogeneous nations).

This will be true for the UK, Britain and the individual countries within the UK.

HamptonPlace · 13/05/2025 10:51

SpottedDonkey · 20/03/2025 23:19

I always think there are 5 distinct nations in the UK : Scotland, England, NI, Wales & London.

As someone who grew up in the north of England, has also lived in Scotland then moved to London, I found that northern England, Scotland & Wales all have more in common with each other than they do with London, which really does exist within its own bubble.

Edited

NI is not a country though...

MarkingBad · 13/05/2025 10:51

HamptonPlace · 13/05/2025 10:32

Surely the welsh are just england's pet? Never a kingdom or historical centrala government. Little 'englanders' essentially?

The Welsh are the most genetically distinct people in the UK.

There were rulers that united Wales at times and parts of England. Until 1282. But to say it's little Englanders is just 🙄unless you are talking about Pembrokeshire

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