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To think all schools should ban the use of smartphones entirely during school day?

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90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 12:52

I would welcome a ban on smartphones in my child’s secondary school.

At present, in my child’s school they are allowed to take them in, but the rule is that they are to be kept at in their bags and not be seen at all. I think they get a couple of behaviour points if seen, and if seen for a third time then it is confiscated.

I know that, had smartphones existed when I was in school, I would have been a master a checking it without getting caught. I would have been on social media, messaging my friends, secretly listening to music with one AirPod under my hair, looking up answers to questions I didn’t know. I’d have never got in trouble because I would have been stealth like in my use of it. But it would have distracted me, it would have called out to me all day. I’d be waiting for my next check of it and thinking about it. I would therefore not have worked as hard, or chatted to friends as much. It would have fed me a horrible narrative about what I should look like, what my life should be like, how everyone appeared better than me and I’d be full of anxiety and not feel good enough.

This is what is happening to our children today. They don’t have the strength to stay away from them - they may not be seen doing it but they are constantly on them. Even the best behaved kids.

Even if teachers do notice a child having a quick look at their phone, they’ve got so much other stuff to do with the demands of their job - are they going to challenge the child and make more work for themselves or are they going to pretend they haven’t seen it.

Children take secret photos and videos and send them to one another to ridicule and bully. Inappropriate contest is airdropped and shared via WhatsApp groups.

As a parent, I am on it with internet safety (as is dh). We use parental control tools and my year 7 child is not allowed social media,free access to the internet and we monitor their use of their phone each evening. There are screen time limits and phone switches of at 7pm and is not allowed in bedroom.

I often feel like we are going against the grain in doing this. I feel alone and like other parents don’t see the issue with handing our children a device where they can access ANYTHING and absolutely will access anything because they are naturally curious. Curiosity is normal, but the level of information, the horrors, the ideologies and the algorithms that form as a result are not. They are extremely damaging.

I know, when I look online (I know, the irony) that there are other parents that feel the same way. But it is hard in real life. When you’re child goes to secondary school and makes new friends who went to a different primary you have no idea what their parents, and their parenting choices, are like.

Whilst I know my child is safe online in my home, I don’t know when I send them out to school. They can be exposed to all sorts of horrors / porn / ideologies because other parents send their child to school with unrestricted smartphones, whether that is because they don’t understand the dangers, or simply do not care.

do any other parents agree with me that schools should be made to ban smartphones entirely? And by ban I mean asking students to hand them in - either a locker or a faraday pouch on arrival. I get that they are a part of life and needed for safety on journey to and from school (although I would argue that for many they don’t actually even need it for that!). But during school hours they simply do not need them and should not have access to them.

This has been rolled out in some schools already and the benefits are already being seen. I would welcome it in a heartbeat if my child’s school did this!!

What do you think? Would really love to hear people’s opinions -

YABU - children should be allowed access to their phones throughout the school day

YANBU - all schools should ban smartphone access on school sites entirely by asking students to leave them at home, place them in a phone locker or in a faraday pouch

OP posts:
noblegiraffe · 10/04/2025 09:13

JassyRadlett · 10/04/2025 00:40

Our comp switched from "off and out of sight" to a trial of "handed in to form teachers and kept in locked cases in the office" for Y7 and Y8 to Yondr pouches for all. Financial assistance for the first pouch for families who can't afford the cost.

The teachers I've spoken to + the official comms about it say the difference between off and out of sight and having them locked away in the pouches is huge. So many kids are addicted and the availability of the phone is a huge distraction even if the policy is there not to look at it. Overall behaviour has improved, they say concentration and engagement is also better, more kids are attending clubs and other extra curricular stuff.

Schools need to find the system that works best for their circumstances but I do think all kids benefit from phones being inaccessible during the school day (with exceptions for medical necessity) and it would be a vanishingly rare school that couldn't find a way to enable this that works for their circumstances.

Anything that costs is a bit of a non-starter, tbh. School funding is looking absolutely dire for September.

Sassybooklover · 10/04/2025 09:29

My son's secondary school allow phones into school, but they must remain switched off during the school day, and aren't allowed to be used. If a student is caught using their phone it's taken away, until the end of the day, an automatic detention and parents informed. My son's junior school only allowed phones into school for Years 5 and 6. They were handed to their teacher at the start of the day, placed in a box, locked away and handed back out at home time. My son is Year 9, and simply doesn't bother taking his into school. Not something I enforced but a conclusion he came to, from the start in Year 7. The other week, he forgot his front door key, and went to his Tutor, who allowed him to call home from the PE department phone (his Tutor is a PE teacher).

JassyRadlett · 10/04/2025 09:42

noblegiraffe · 10/04/2025 09:13

Anything that costs is a bit of a non-starter, tbh. School funding is looking absolutely dire for September.

I'm sure it is. Im simply relating that for our comp (and for others I'm aware of who have gone down a similar path), it wasn't impossible at the start of this school year. Others I know of locally have gone down the handed in and locked away path that our school trialled last year.

If seems pretty clear that locked away/inaccessible delivers benefits that off and out of sight doesn't.

noblegiraffe · 10/04/2025 10:04

I just searched on twitter to see what is being said about the pouches because I remember one head posting that they did them for a year and then abandoned them as more trouble than they were worth and came across this crowd funder for a school to buy the pouches.

https://t.co/g6uiZSwXNT
£15,000 for those pouches? And there'll be an ongoing cost too when they break/get lost/need replacing.

But yeah, that shows that schools can't afford them if they're trying gofundme.

Tiswa · 10/04/2025 10:05

JassyRadlett · 10/04/2025 09:42

I'm sure it is. Im simply relating that for our comp (and for others I'm aware of who have gone down a similar path), it wasn't impossible at the start of this school year. Others I know of locally have gone down the handed in and locked away path that our school trialled last year.

If seems pretty clear that locked away/inaccessible delivers benefits that off and out of sight doesn't.

But it looks like parents paid for the pouch is that right? That the cost was shared between the school and the parents. Around here there are trials for an app which does something similar.

The problem remains as always with education, most solutions need 2 major things money and parental buy in. Which the wealthier areas and schools get

thosr that probably need it the most get neither

tallcurvey · 15/04/2025 07:06

@90sseemedsomucheasier

of course the answer to this is yes.
also no social media for under 18.

anyone who disagrees really does not get the harm
it more than outweighs the benefits now .

Pickledpoppetpickle · 15/04/2025 11:01

twattydogshavetwattypeople · 08/04/2025 11:37

Surely it's possible to have a cheap smartphone for things like tickets and insulin monitors, but with parental controls so that no other functions can be installed?

Not quite that simple re: insulin. They need a phone that the apps will work on and the need constant internet access to work. Those on the dash/5 for insulin delivery have a separate device which looks like a phone anyway, it can’t do what phones do but they are absolutely essential and need to be within easy access (with the child, not locked away).

Tiswa · 15/04/2025 11:38

tallcurvey · 15/04/2025 07:06

@90sseemedsomucheasier

of course the answer to this is yes.
also no social media for under 18.

anyone who disagrees really does not get the harm
it more than outweighs the benefits now .

I disagree - knowing the harm can also come with an understanding that outright bans on things don’t actually work effectively either and you are just putting it into the area of a black market and unregulated use rather than controlled usage

NeverDropYourMooncup · 15/04/2025 14:54

noblegiraffe · 10/04/2025 10:04

I just searched on twitter to see what is being said about the pouches because I remember one head posting that they did them for a year and then abandoned them as more trouble than they were worth and came across this crowd funder for a school to buy the pouches.

https://t.co/g6uiZSwXNT
£15,000 for those pouches? And there'll be an ongoing cost too when they break/get lost/need replacing.

But yeah, that shows that schools can't afford them if they're trying gofundme.

Hell's Bells, that's expensive.

£25 each/£600 per form of 30.

It's £40 for a 36 slot lockable box (easier to carry, keep secure and around half the price of a double depth Gratnells with lid).

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