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To think all schools should ban the use of smartphones entirely during school day?

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90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 12:52

I would welcome a ban on smartphones in my child’s secondary school.

At present, in my child’s school they are allowed to take them in, but the rule is that they are to be kept at in their bags and not be seen at all. I think they get a couple of behaviour points if seen, and if seen for a third time then it is confiscated.

I know that, had smartphones existed when I was in school, I would have been a master a checking it without getting caught. I would have been on social media, messaging my friends, secretly listening to music with one AirPod under my hair, looking up answers to questions I didn’t know. I’d have never got in trouble because I would have been stealth like in my use of it. But it would have distracted me, it would have called out to me all day. I’d be waiting for my next check of it and thinking about it. I would therefore not have worked as hard, or chatted to friends as much. It would have fed me a horrible narrative about what I should look like, what my life should be like, how everyone appeared better than me and I’d be full of anxiety and not feel good enough.

This is what is happening to our children today. They don’t have the strength to stay away from them - they may not be seen doing it but they are constantly on them. Even the best behaved kids.

Even if teachers do notice a child having a quick look at their phone, they’ve got so much other stuff to do with the demands of their job - are they going to challenge the child and make more work for themselves or are they going to pretend they haven’t seen it.

Children take secret photos and videos and send them to one another to ridicule and bully. Inappropriate contest is airdropped and shared via WhatsApp groups.

As a parent, I am on it with internet safety (as is dh). We use parental control tools and my year 7 child is not allowed social media,free access to the internet and we monitor their use of their phone each evening. There are screen time limits and phone switches of at 7pm and is not allowed in bedroom.

I often feel like we are going against the grain in doing this. I feel alone and like other parents don’t see the issue with handing our children a device where they can access ANYTHING and absolutely will access anything because they are naturally curious. Curiosity is normal, but the level of information, the horrors, the ideologies and the algorithms that form as a result are not. They are extremely damaging.

I know, when I look online (I know, the irony) that there are other parents that feel the same way. But it is hard in real life. When you’re child goes to secondary school and makes new friends who went to a different primary you have no idea what their parents, and their parenting choices, are like.

Whilst I know my child is safe online in my home, I don’t know when I send them out to school. They can be exposed to all sorts of horrors / porn / ideologies because other parents send their child to school with unrestricted smartphones, whether that is because they don’t understand the dangers, or simply do not care.

do any other parents agree with me that schools should be made to ban smartphones entirely? And by ban I mean asking students to hand them in - either a locker or a faraday pouch on arrival. I get that they are a part of life and needed for safety on journey to and from school (although I would argue that for many they don’t actually even need it for that!). But during school hours they simply do not need them and should not have access to them.

This has been rolled out in some schools already and the benefits are already being seen. I would welcome it in a heartbeat if my child’s school did this!!

What do you think? Would really love to hear people’s opinions -

YABU - children should be allowed access to their phones throughout the school day

YANBU - all schools should ban smartphone access on school sites entirely by asking students to leave them at home, place them in a phone locker or in a faraday pouch

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Bringmeahigherlove · 20/03/2025 20:08

Pickledpoppetpickle · 20/03/2025 19:35

Erm....read above?!

Reasonable adjustments would have to be made.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 20/03/2025 20:28

Where did I say that we shouldn't have any rules about them? Confused

I was just pointing out that many parents seem to think that creating a rule magically solves the problem. I get a bit fed up of people saying 'I don't know why on earth schools/teachers don't do <insert obvious measure here>!', as though a) schools have never thought of it, b) it would be a piece of cake to implement and c) if you did implement it, it would work perfectly.

I'm probably just being grumpy. Long day.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 20/03/2025 20:30

Sorry, that was replying to @OldTiredMum1976 - the post I quoted vanished!

90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 20:37

Pickledpoppetpickle · 20/03/2025 19:37

That's great. I'm glad. Please ask the NHS to pay for the reader (because for dexcom at least, they don't come in the box and have a price of around £300 to buy) because the phone is free....

No, type 1s are small in number. But their condition is none the less a complex one and shouldn't be dismissed because it suits others. The long term is important. I am surprized you don't think that.

There is absolutely no way that phones would be taken away from children that medically need them. No way. It’s not what is being discussed here.

if there is no medical need, children DO NOT need them in school. Simple

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FKAT · 20/03/2025 20:37

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 19:08

Ok then so because some kids sneak vaoes into school or penknives or drugs then let’s not have any rules about them at all! Let’s just have a free for all. What a ridiculous argument.

if phones were locked away all day, I could deal with the few still floating about. These children could be sanctioned and banned from having a phone on site at all. At least let’s try to improve the situation as, let me tell you, most parents are living in cloud cuckoo land about what their child’s school day is like.

Aye. About 50% of kids do drugs as well so the school shouldn't ban them - just ensure the dealers only come on school premises at lunch time and they should only do coke and ket on the bus - not in Triple Science.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 20/03/2025 20:42

FKAT · 20/03/2025 20:37

Aye. About 50% of kids do drugs as well so the school shouldn't ban them - just ensure the dealers only come on school premises at lunch time and they should only do coke and ket on the bus - not in Triple Science.

Where on the thread did anyone say that nothing should be banned in school or that there shouldn't be rules about phones? Or drugs?!

ScrollingLeaves · 20/03/2025 20:54

Sorry if this has been posted already but, in case it has not, this is a movement called Smartphone Free Childhood. People sign up to it with the aim of so many doing so that their children will feel less under pressure to have a phone. You can see how many others have signed up at your child’s school.

smartphonefreechildhood.co.uk/

Whattodo12e · 20/03/2025 20:58

Of course! Even close to them is enough to make them distracted.
It will be like allowing smoking in classrooms when we look back in this period.

nannyl · 20/03/2025 20:59

YANBU

phones have been banned in my childrens school for at least 6 / 7 years...

Phones are put in phone lockers straight away at morning registration, and collected again at the end of the day.
If they are seen on site in these few minutes at the end of the day there are consequences, and if they have been sneeked in / not in phone locker at any point in school day there are far more serious consequences.

No phones was one of the best legacys of the past head teacher IMO

AgathaMystery · 20/03/2025 21:02

90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 13:13

The technology is there to monitor medical devices without a smartphone. Another example where we need to do better for our children

Give over.

only a smart phone can run Dexcom follow AND CamAPS AND sugarmate or Glooco.

I hate smartphones in school but children with T1DM need them and Apple Watches on them at all times.

OonaStubbs · 20/03/2025 21:04

There should be an outright ban on smartphones in schools. For everyone. Any smartphone found on school premises should be crushed.

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 21:05

OMG for the love of everything that is holy!

No school is going to stop children with any sort of need that requires a phone from having one!!!! If they have it out faffing on YouTube in lessons though then there should be a swift and fairly harsh punishment.

LetsPhotographTheLights · 20/03/2025 21:07

The threat of a detention was/is enough to stop my children looking at their phones during the school day. If you don’t want your children having a phone at school, then don’t let them take their phone to school, but don’t try and ruin it for others whose children can follow the rules. Parents need to parent.

There was a parent who publicly campaigned for something similar to what you’re suggesting who hadn’t monitored her child’s phone use or parented effectively, but then thought we should all listen to her ideas on how to parent around phone use and SM. Why would I listen to parents like that when I’m capable of parenting well and I’ve brought my children up to be responsible with their phone use and respect school rules?

Gnarab24 · 20/03/2025 21:09

Haven’t RTFT
was talking to my DD recently about the mental
health of children her age and younger and we both agreed that smart phone ubiquity was a significant factor.
I’d not be surprised if smart phones are banned for under 16’s at some point in the future as they essentially cause brain rot. Our kids are not doing well and the proliferation of social media and doom scrolling are a significant part of the problem.

suburberphobe · 20/03/2025 21:11

I agree.

Watching the brilliant Adolescence on Netflix I couldn't agree more.

Thing is, I think it's past that point.

Everyone has a mobile now. You need it for work, home, kids, transport, etc.

I wish we could ban porn myself.

suburberphobe · 20/03/2025 21:17

Watching Adolescence made me cry. Brilliant and scary.

13 year old? A child.

Manosphere. Terrifying.

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 21:18

LetsPhotographTheLights · 20/03/2025 21:07

The threat of a detention was/is enough to stop my children looking at their phones during the school day. If you don’t want your children having a phone at school, then don’t let them take their phone to school, but don’t try and ruin it for others whose children can follow the rules. Parents need to parent.

There was a parent who publicly campaigned for something similar to what you’re suggesting who hadn’t monitored her child’s phone use or parented effectively, but then thought we should all listen to her ideas on how to parent around phone use and SM. Why would I listen to parents like that when I’m capable of parenting well and I’ve brought my children up to be responsible with their phone use and respect school rules?

And herein lies the problem. Every parent who we have to phone up and inform that their little cherub was faffing on their phone is class can’t believe it. ‘They were looking up something inportant.’ ‘They were messaging me.’ Unless you have their phone locked down to a brick during school hours I can guarantee that they will have accessed it at school…and if you have it locked down to a brick then it doesn’t matter if it’s locked away.

The biggest problem is parents!

suburberphobe · 20/03/2025 21:42

The biggest problem is parents!

What?!

More parents are great, even single ones,

suburberphobe · 20/03/2025 21:43

Most parents are great that was meant to say,

OonaStubbs · 20/03/2025 21:48

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 21:05

OMG for the love of everything that is holy!

No school is going to stop children with any sort of need that requires a phone from having one!!!! If they have it out faffing on YouTube in lessons though then there should be a swift and fairly harsh punishment.

What are these "needs" that require smartphones and what did children with those "needs" do before smartphones were invented?

Just ban them. Outright.

LetsPhotographTheLights · 20/03/2025 21:59

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 21:18

And herein lies the problem. Every parent who we have to phone up and inform that their little cherub was faffing on their phone is class can’t believe it. ‘They were looking up something inportant.’ ‘They were messaging me.’ Unless you have their phone locked down to a brick during school hours I can guarantee that they will have accessed it at school…and if you have it locked down to a brick then it doesn’t matter if it’s locked away.

The biggest problem is parents!

My kids would have been/would be upset if they got told off or if they got a detention, especially my youngest. They’re rule followers, every homework is done, uniform worn correctly etc. I’ve never had a phone call about bad behaviour, they’ve never had a detention, isolation or even a negative behaviour point. If they broke the rules, I wouldn’t make excuses for them, but they’ve just never got into trouble and follow the rules. Neither have ever been overly attached to their phone, youngest doesn’t even have TikTok etc as not interested. Not all kids are breaking the rules. Neither me nor my kids are the problem.

90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 22:01

LetsPhotographTheLights · 20/03/2025 21:07

The threat of a detention was/is enough to stop my children looking at their phones during the school day. If you don’t want your children having a phone at school, then don’t let them take their phone to school, but don’t try and ruin it for others whose children can follow the rules. Parents need to parent.

There was a parent who publicly campaigned for something similar to what you’re suggesting who hadn’t monitored her child’s phone use or parented effectively, but then thought we should all listen to her ideas on how to parent around phone use and SM. Why would I listen to parents like that when I’m capable of parenting well and I’ve brought my children up to be responsible with their phone use and respect school rules?

Well done for parenting your child well. I parent mine well too. As well as I can, I absolutely try my best.

My concerns aren’t about my child’s behaviour (although I’m not naive enough to think that if they were given unfettered access to a smart phone then they wouldn’t stumble across inappropriate content). My concern is disrupted learning, and access to content through the phones of children that are perhaps not parented as well as your child.

It shocks me that there are so many people that are so incredibly naive that they think that as long as there child is fine then all will be ok. This NEEDS to be a collective. It is damaging society as a whole. It really is.

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Whistledown2 · 20/03/2025 22:09

Smartphones should never ever have been allowed into the classroom full stop. Children cannot self regulate.

Schools existed without smartphone phones for many many years. Theres absolutely no need for them in the classroom at all.

UmopapIsdn · 20/03/2025 22:12

ClosetBasketCase · 20/03/2025 13:46

I had, and will make sure that my kids have their smart phones - ven if the school makes a fuss: several reasons as stated below:

I was horrifically bullied at school. and singled out by some teachers as i was the "poor kid" at school on scolarships and bursaries.

I was diagosed with T1D aged 5, We had no choce but to put me in private education as all schools in my catchment area were terrible, stabbings, arrests, and crap results, and more importantly no school nurses. I tried it in state school for 1 year, they wouldnt cope with dealing with it, and used to shut me in a supply cupbored when i had to check my sugars, or when i went hypo - instead of treating it, would just leave me and call my mum to come get me - i was 5... i couldnt treat by myself at that point, once it dropped past a certain point (another issue was they wouldnt let me check when i felt funny, only on a schedule that they made) i was almost unresponsive- and couldnt rteat myself, so they call mum, who was 20 minutes away at work,

It got to the point where id ended up in hospital several times because i was let down by the school. mum was looking at loosing her job for having to run out multiple times a week.

so we put me in private, where i had the school nurse, and could get sorted whenever i needed to, mum was able to work etc (she was the minority to have a working mum there, and it showed with the teachers)

I got the phone so that i could call her if things got bad, and i needed suport, also so that i could call the diabetes nurses when i needed to, now? i use it for my freestyle libre- the handset it comes with doesnt do the alarms when you sugars rise/drop past certain points etc. I will always now have my smart phone, and when the time comes so will my kids - sadly the diabetes passed on so it is a nescesity.

screw the perils - the advantages outweigh them.

The handset does have alarms for high/low reading - you have to set them yourself in settings. Not saying this in a 'you’re so wrong' way but just in case it helps you out.

LetsPhotographTheLights · 20/03/2025 22:20

90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 22:01

Well done for parenting your child well. I parent mine well too. As well as I can, I absolutely try my best.

My concerns aren’t about my child’s behaviour (although I’m not naive enough to think that if they were given unfettered access to a smart phone then they wouldn’t stumble across inappropriate content). My concern is disrupted learning, and access to content through the phones of children that are perhaps not parented as well as your child.

It shocks me that there are so many people that are so incredibly naive that they think that as long as there child is fine then all will be ok. This NEEDS to be a collective. It is damaging society as a whole. It really is.

I take responsibility for my own family, it’s not my job to worry about others. If my child was breaking school rules about phones, I’d take their phone way. Other parents need to do the same.

It’s a parents responsibility and if parents aren’t taking responsibility then that is what needs addressing, along with children’s behaviour and making sure teachers enforce rules consistently. If we ban phones, the problematic kids will disrupt lessons in another way, and if parents and teachers aren’t dealing with that effectively, there are still issues, it just won’t be phones causing them.

My child doesn’t need more rules and discipline because other parents or teachers refuse to do their job properly.

Edited to add that my child’s teachers are great. They apply the rules fairly and consistently and they have a difficult job, I didn’t want to look like I’m bashing teachers as I’m not. So many parents are useless though, they’re not consistent, they don’t have a clue what books their child are reading in English lit let alone know what their child is up to online.