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To think all schools should ban the use of smartphones entirely during school day?

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90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 12:52

I would welcome a ban on smartphones in my child’s secondary school.

At present, in my child’s school they are allowed to take them in, but the rule is that they are to be kept at in their bags and not be seen at all. I think they get a couple of behaviour points if seen, and if seen for a third time then it is confiscated.

I know that, had smartphones existed when I was in school, I would have been a master a checking it without getting caught. I would have been on social media, messaging my friends, secretly listening to music with one AirPod under my hair, looking up answers to questions I didn’t know. I’d have never got in trouble because I would have been stealth like in my use of it. But it would have distracted me, it would have called out to me all day. I’d be waiting for my next check of it and thinking about it. I would therefore not have worked as hard, or chatted to friends as much. It would have fed me a horrible narrative about what I should look like, what my life should be like, how everyone appeared better than me and I’d be full of anxiety and not feel good enough.

This is what is happening to our children today. They don’t have the strength to stay away from them - they may not be seen doing it but they are constantly on them. Even the best behaved kids.

Even if teachers do notice a child having a quick look at their phone, they’ve got so much other stuff to do with the demands of their job - are they going to challenge the child and make more work for themselves or are they going to pretend they haven’t seen it.

Children take secret photos and videos and send them to one another to ridicule and bully. Inappropriate contest is airdropped and shared via WhatsApp groups.

As a parent, I am on it with internet safety (as is dh). We use parental control tools and my year 7 child is not allowed social media,free access to the internet and we monitor their use of their phone each evening. There are screen time limits and phone switches of at 7pm and is not allowed in bedroom.

I often feel like we are going against the grain in doing this. I feel alone and like other parents don’t see the issue with handing our children a device where they can access ANYTHING and absolutely will access anything because they are naturally curious. Curiosity is normal, but the level of information, the horrors, the ideologies and the algorithms that form as a result are not. They are extremely damaging.

I know, when I look online (I know, the irony) that there are other parents that feel the same way. But it is hard in real life. When you’re child goes to secondary school and makes new friends who went to a different primary you have no idea what their parents, and their parenting choices, are like.

Whilst I know my child is safe online in my home, I don’t know when I send them out to school. They can be exposed to all sorts of horrors / porn / ideologies because other parents send their child to school with unrestricted smartphones, whether that is because they don’t understand the dangers, or simply do not care.

do any other parents agree with me that schools should be made to ban smartphones entirely? And by ban I mean asking students to hand them in - either a locker or a faraday pouch on arrival. I get that they are a part of life and needed for safety on journey to and from school (although I would argue that for many they don’t actually even need it for that!). But during school hours they simply do not need them and should not have access to them.

This has been rolled out in some schools already and the benefits are already being seen. I would welcome it in a heartbeat if my child’s school did this!!

What do you think? Would really love to hear people’s opinions -

YABU - children should be allowed access to their phones throughout the school day

YANBU - all schools should ban smartphone access on school sites entirely by asking students to leave them at home, place them in a phone locker or in a faraday pouch

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ChaliceinWonderland · 22/03/2025 22:46

Sadly i work in school. Kids have phones in bags. Of vourse they use them. If they get a detention , they nessage parents to tell them and argue. Parents come in and are abusive. We see fights and call the police.
Phones must be banned.
They are toxic.
I need a new job as its hellish.
Girls screaming down phone to mum/ that theschools a shithole please come and get me.

Tbrh · 22/03/2025 23:07

Pigsears · 20/03/2025 13:04

Why don't you focus on what you can control and just not allow your child a phone at school if so important to you?

You should read the book 'The anxious generation', anyone with children should

Flutterbees · 23/03/2025 07:10

echt · 22/03/2025 22:39

I'm In Melbourne and it was bliss when the state government issued a ban on phones. It meant the grief was directed at them, not the teachers. Phones at my state school were turned off and students put them in their locker for the day.

For context, the students didn't carry bags around, just the materials for their lesson. All students brought their own laptop or tablet, all adjusted by the IT crowd to limit access while in the building.

A crucial difference here is that bar welfare cases, all parents provide all equipment for their child, and every student has a locker.

I’m in Australia, school has been so much better since the mobile phone ban came into effect. Now we need to get on top of social media use by kids, then we’ll really be on the right track.

Stanley44132 · 23/03/2025 22:52

I fully agree op. I see Denmark have just banned phones in schools and after school activities for all kids 7-17 I would fully support this here too

Scottishgirl85 · 08/04/2025 11:34

Why not just ban them yourself as a parent, why do you want school to ban them?

twattydogshavetwattypeople · 08/04/2025 11:37

Surely it's possible to have a cheap smartphone for things like tickets and insulin monitors, but with parental controls so that no other functions can be installed?

godmum56 · 08/04/2025 11:45

I get needing the strict controls on use in schools. I do think though that children need to be taught safety and media use self control, so not sure blanket banning is the way forward long term....I mean is it like children whose parents never allow sugar so when they can get at it they gorge?

RB68 · 08/04/2025 11:48

I am honestly of the view that having a phone that is just that - phone calls and text messages should be allowed for contact purposes only - ie if travelling to school - e.g. my daughter was stranded several times in secondary as she was a bus student - sometimes they just don't turn up, end up stuck in traffic etc. She needs to be able to make and receive calls on her journey for safety. NOTHING else. He used to use hers for music too but I would forgo that for there to be no phones, recording devices, internet and so on in school.

Anything that requires interaction with quizzes/websites etc for school should be done on school kit that is properly secured for kids use during school hrs.

RB68 · 08/04/2025 11:49

the self control thing - they are teenagers, but if you want to do it in your time at home, doesn't need to be in school and the equipment is not needed in school

RB68 · 08/04/2025 11:51

There should be, of course, exceptions for those operating medical monitoring. But I am sure if phones were not allowed in school there would soon be a piece of kit that would allow this and the recording etc brought to market

godmum56 · 08/04/2025 11:56

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/03/2025 13:06

Most schools do.

Annoyingly DD has set her WhatsApp up on school ipad, she will text random messages all day.

that's interesting. I mean have the schools not got ipads locked so no unauthorised additions? Secondly I have got an ipad and my whatsapp doesn't work on it unless my phone is nearby and switched on. If there is a way around this on ipad, I'd love to know it please?

jellyfishperiwinkle · 08/04/2025 12:00

I think the issue is wider than smartphones in schools- it's all the educational apps that schools use to apparently make things easier for teachers and enhance learning which means that kids must be on devices of one kind or another to do homework or for at least part of the school day to check timetables etc.

This means they must be on a device of some kind, often in their bedroom and online, and there is an ever present 1) distraction and 2) safety issue there and last but not least 3) an inequality issue where kids do not have their own device at home or their IT doesn't work well- and it relies also on parents' tech capabilities and understanding being quite good.

While they do need to be able to use tech for work in the future they could do this in the classroom only and at home have to write their homework in exercise books which is then taken in and marked in the traditional way. And have written out timetables in homework diaries as we used to, so no-one needs to be looking at their phone to see what lesson is next in what room.

90sseemedsomucheasier · 08/04/2025 14:57

Scottishgirl85 · 08/04/2025 11:34

Why not just ban them yourself as a parent, why do you want school to ban them?

Read the thread 🙄

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hadtonamechangeobviously · 08/04/2025 16:35

ProudCat · 22/03/2025 20:11

It would increase workload. Every child would have something to say. Endless conversations. Parents complaining. Resistance. Logging resistance. Plus, starting the day with conflict.

Also, like I'm up to my maximum allocation. There's no more directed time. I start when form starts. When exactly would I be collecting these phones?

It doesn’t seem to at my DC’s school - they just hand their phones in at the start of the day and pick them up at the end. Parents are very happy with this. Pupils accept it, because there is no argument for having them during school.

ProudCat · 08/04/2025 21:23

hadtonamechangeobviously · 08/04/2025 16:35

It doesn’t seem to at my DC’s school - they just hand their phones in at the start of the day and pick them up at the end. Parents are very happy with this. Pupils accept it, because there is no argument for having them during school.

Secondary, over 1,000 kids handing their phones in at the start of the day? Some of them over 6ft? Really? Like little lambs?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/04/2025 22:04

ProudCat · 08/04/2025 21:23

Secondary, over 1,000 kids handing their phones in at the start of the day? Some of them over 6ft? Really? Like little lambs?

Yup. Seen it happen daily. Of course, some will lie and some will hand over a burner, but the vast majority including the six footers hand them over.

Parker231 · 09/04/2025 02:12

ProudCat · 08/04/2025 21:23

Secondary, over 1,000 kids handing their phones in at the start of the day? Some of them over 6ft? Really? Like little lambs?

Random bag searches with a signed agreement policy between the school, parents and students. Automatic phone confiscation for the week if caught with the parents having to attend the school to retrieve the phone. Suspension for repeat offenders.

The size and age of the student is irrelevant.

hadtonamechangeobviously · 09/04/2025 02:39

ProudCat · 08/04/2025 21:23

Secondary, over 1,000 kids handing their phones in at the start of the day? Some of them over 6ft? Really? Like little lambs?

Older ones are allowed to keep theirs but out of sight. If it is seen or heard then it’s confiscated. They did a trial of handing it in and it went well, I believe. Not sure if has been now implemented.
I do think sometimes teens really do want someone to take their phones away and if it is done to all of them then there is no FOMO.

Some of them over 6ft? Really? Like little lambs?

Erm, there is no violence or aggression at the school. No-one swears at teachers - they would be suspended but generally they wouldn’t anyway. Pupils come to school, work, do clubs then leave.
So yes, like lambs - perhaps whinging lambs.

90sseemedsomucheasier · 09/04/2025 07:40

ProudCat · 08/04/2025 21:23

Secondary, over 1,000 kids handing their phones in at the start of the day? Some of them over 6ft? Really? Like little lambs?

What’s being over 6ft got to do with it? Do we not have rules in life once we get over 6ft?

A few people have commented on this thread about the workload / 1000-1500 kids having to handing in their phones. It’s not that many children handing in their phones to one person. Systems are easily implemented making it a quick and easy task (much like how 1500 children have exercise booked handed to them and back in throughout the day with no issue).

Many schools in UK have implemented this and it works. It REDUCES workload for teachers and staff. It INCREASES safety for them. And more importantly in increases safety for students and allows them to concentrate on their school day.

The government should make this the law / expectation in all schools so that schools can easily implement it without feeling the wrath of the dickhead parents who think that this is a measure to help parents that are too scared to parent their child and remove their phone - when it actual fact it is the parents who parent very well who are desperate for this sort of thing to be in place, and if is those parents who clearly put no restrictions in place for their child and allow them all apps and to have their phone in their room all night so their child is up until the crack of dawn watching shit. Same dickhead parents think their child is an angel and has restraint around their phone use 🙄🙄

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0ohLarLar · 09/04/2025 07:55

I don't understand people who don't use family link etc to totally lock the phone down and ensure they can't access social media etc/spend 10 hours a day doomscrolling

The parents who do this make it a fucking nightmare for everyone else. I see them at the bus stop, 5 boys huddled round glued to the phone belonging to the one lad who's parents can't be arsed so his phone is unlocked 24 hours a day.

Then you have schools expecting kids to have apps for everything. There's a push/trend for giving kids dumb phones where i live but the schools are an active barrier to this because they want to use apps for everything. Then they grumble that behaviour is bad - but they are part of the problem, setting homework on screens etc, screens are terrible for kids behaviour!

OonaStubbs · 09/04/2025 07:59

I am starting to think that smartphones should just be banned, full stop. Not just for children, for everyone.

0ohLarLar · 09/04/2025 08:01

. I do think though that children need to be taught safety and media use self control, so not sure blanket banning is the way forward long term....I mean is it like children whose parents never allow sugar so when they can get at it they gorge?

It doesn't work like that. Media use self control is terrifically difficult! I teach screen safety but as a thoroughly screen addicted adult who's tried everything to get it under control & failed, I'm going to do it for my kids and let their brains develop with less exposure to screens.

Coffeebreakneeds · 09/04/2025 08:11

At our independent school phones get handed in at 8.15am and they get them back at 5pm when they leave to go home. Boarders also hand them in at 6.45pm-8.15pm when they do prep and for the night at 9pm so they don’t have their phones much at all. They get put in a locked cupboard by house staff. Only 6th formers are allowed to have them all the time.

At our old school they were allowed to keep them on them all day but weren’t supposed to use them but they all did (also independent). Mine thought they would hate handing them in, but they don’t give it a second thought now. They can email us if they need us during the day.

Yaaaassssssqueeeeeennnnnslay · 09/04/2025 08:15

Our school was a keep it in the bag school but some teachers allowed pupils, year 10/11 to photograph a whiteboard, or sent them links to copy etc. so school then made sure there are no lessons or any activity in school that needed a phone.
they use school Chromebooks or good old fashioned textbooks and apparently it has made all the difference!
We use an app on our kids phones that shows when the phone is used and they don’t use it at all between 8.30am and 3pm which is the school hours. So at least we know ours aren’t breaking rules.
The punishment for phone use is draconian - 1st offence the phone is taking to the office and the kid has to do a detention THAT day to get it back. 2nd offence - A parent has to collect the phone.

Mazanna123 · 09/04/2025 08:23

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 13:03

i supply in many many different schools and all of the private ones lock the children’s phones away at 8am and return them at 5.30/6pm. It gets rid of so much trouble. I honestly am astounded that this is not made law in state schools - probably because the government don’t want to fund lockers!

Absolutely agree. It's crazy all schools don't do this. It solves so many problems.