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To think all schools should ban the use of smartphones entirely during school day?

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90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 12:52

I would welcome a ban on smartphones in my child’s secondary school.

At present, in my child’s school they are allowed to take them in, but the rule is that they are to be kept at in their bags and not be seen at all. I think they get a couple of behaviour points if seen, and if seen for a third time then it is confiscated.

I know that, had smartphones existed when I was in school, I would have been a master a checking it without getting caught. I would have been on social media, messaging my friends, secretly listening to music with one AirPod under my hair, looking up answers to questions I didn’t know. I’d have never got in trouble because I would have been stealth like in my use of it. But it would have distracted me, it would have called out to me all day. I’d be waiting for my next check of it and thinking about it. I would therefore not have worked as hard, or chatted to friends as much. It would have fed me a horrible narrative about what I should look like, what my life should be like, how everyone appeared better than me and I’d be full of anxiety and not feel good enough.

This is what is happening to our children today. They don’t have the strength to stay away from them - they may not be seen doing it but they are constantly on them. Even the best behaved kids.

Even if teachers do notice a child having a quick look at their phone, they’ve got so much other stuff to do with the demands of their job - are they going to challenge the child and make more work for themselves or are they going to pretend they haven’t seen it.

Children take secret photos and videos and send them to one another to ridicule and bully. Inappropriate contest is airdropped and shared via WhatsApp groups.

As a parent, I am on it with internet safety (as is dh). We use parental control tools and my year 7 child is not allowed social media,free access to the internet and we monitor their use of their phone each evening. There are screen time limits and phone switches of at 7pm and is not allowed in bedroom.

I often feel like we are going against the grain in doing this. I feel alone and like other parents don’t see the issue with handing our children a device where they can access ANYTHING and absolutely will access anything because they are naturally curious. Curiosity is normal, but the level of information, the horrors, the ideologies and the algorithms that form as a result are not. They are extremely damaging.

I know, when I look online (I know, the irony) that there are other parents that feel the same way. But it is hard in real life. When you’re child goes to secondary school and makes new friends who went to a different primary you have no idea what their parents, and their parenting choices, are like.

Whilst I know my child is safe online in my home, I don’t know when I send them out to school. They can be exposed to all sorts of horrors / porn / ideologies because other parents send their child to school with unrestricted smartphones, whether that is because they don’t understand the dangers, or simply do not care.

do any other parents agree with me that schools should be made to ban smartphones entirely? And by ban I mean asking students to hand them in - either a locker or a faraday pouch on arrival. I get that they are a part of life and needed for safety on journey to and from school (although I would argue that for many they don’t actually even need it for that!). But during school hours they simply do not need them and should not have access to them.

This has been rolled out in some schools already and the benefits are already being seen. I would welcome it in a heartbeat if my child’s school did this!!

What do you think? Would really love to hear people’s opinions -

YABU - children should be allowed access to their phones throughout the school day

YANBU - all schools should ban smartphone access on school sites entirely by asking students to leave them at home, place them in a phone locker or in a faraday pouch

OP posts:
twistyizzy · 20/03/2025 12:56

Labour just voted against banning smartphones and without that it is up to individual schools. Lobby your school governors to bring it in.

YouveGotAFastCar · 20/03/2025 13:00

do any other parents agree with me that schools should be made to ban smartphones entirely?

What about people who use them for insulin monitoring, just as one example? The phone has to be close enough to the monitor to control the insulin.

There's a LOT more to it than what you've said.

I am horrified by the lack of attention that some parents pay to what children are up to online; and I'm not surprised that we're seeing the consequences of that now, but I'm also not convinced that removing phones during the school day will make that much of a difference if most kids have unsupervised access to them the rest of the time...

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 13:03

i supply in many many different schools and all of the private ones lock the children’s phones away at 8am and return them at 5.30/6pm. It gets rid of so much trouble. I honestly am astounded that this is not made law in state schools - probably because the government don’t want to fund lockers!

Eyerollexpert · 20/03/2025 13:04

Most high schools in our area already have banned them . Hand in before lessons collect after.

FKAT · 20/03/2025 13:04

My son's school bans them and our local authority has followed suit. It's the only way forward in my opinion. There's never been an issue in 10+ years of the ban. You're not allowed to take a smart phone in to school at all.

Pigsears · 20/03/2025 13:04

Why don't you focus on what you can control and just not allow your child a phone at school if so important to you?

Pippa12 · 20/03/2025 13:05

I think times have changed, the majority of children have (smart)phones now. It would be impossible to police the ‘no phone’ rule. You say yourself you would be stealth at not getting caught, so what would the ‘ban’ acheive?

I’m glad I can contact my child, especially following after school club activities in the winter months. I can see my child doesn’t access what’s app during the school hours and only messages if desperate (ie. bad mother forgot to put money on dinner card etc). Personally I think to have their phones, in their bags, and no visible usage is far enough. I’m not sure what good is to come of them being in their locker.

If a child is caught using their phone it is taken off them and only returned to them once the teacher touches base with parents.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/03/2025 13:06

Most schools do.

Annoyingly DD has set her WhatsApp up on school ipad, she will text random messages all day.

twistyizzy · 20/03/2025 13:06

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 13:03

i supply in many many different schools and all of the private ones lock the children’s phones away at 8am and return them at 5.30/6pm. It gets rid of so much trouble. I honestly am astounded that this is not made law in state schools - probably because the government don’t want to fund lockers!

Same at DDs independent school. Have to hand in to HouseMistress at registration and get given back on the way out at end of the day

Clearinguptheclutter · 20/03/2025 13:07

Our school has an “out of sight” policy which as far as I can tell is adhered to pretty strictly,

However occasionally the children are asked to get their phones out to do something useful in class eg research or use a maths app and that doesn’t seem to cause issues. Perhaps the teachers are careful who they allow this with though.

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 13:07

Pigsears · 20/03/2025 13:04

Why don't you focus on what you can control and just not allow your child a phone at school if so important to you?

And here is the reason why…because many parents are stupid and would ‘kick off’ because their little darling needed one. They are not needed in school. They waste everyone time in school. The vanishingly few who need it for medical reasons can have it but big punishments for using it inappropriately. I can assure you, hours and hours of teaching time would be saved.

SlipperyLizard · 20/03/2025 13:07

My DDs school has over 1500 pupils and hardly any money - the logistics of your idea are a massive hurdle.

The school is VERY strict on phones, they are confiscated if seen during the school day, and although I’m sure some kids do look at them mine are too scared of confiscation!

What would help would be parents learning how to use parental controls properly - eg on an iPhone you can use screen time to block access during the school day. Or there are apps that do similar.

I travelled a long way to school and always had a phone card in case of emergency - there are no phone boxes now so kids who travel need a mobile.

MargaretThursday · 20/03/2025 13:08

As you said, you would have become a master in still using it.

Ban it and the kids who don't care will become masters in having them anyway.

I was chuckling at the thread yesterday about buying a non-smart phone having witnessed a couple of hours before a pair of brothers carefully moving the SIM from their smart to non-smart phone to go home.

The generally obedient children who wouldn't cause issues with them will be the ones that won't have them.

For children who are walking/busing, what happens if they have a problem. No public phones like there used to be.

Far better for parents to actually talk to the children and help them to use them responsibly.

Testingthetimes · 20/03/2025 13:08

My daughters school sent back a letter last terms that after Easter all smart phones are to be banned from being in school grounds. Non smart phones are allowed - as in can be kept and bottom of bag and switched off until home time. They had a link for £10 phone and made it clear there would be no exceptions (aside from medical related).

I cannot understand why any school wouldn’t ban them. There is no single advantage.

Pigsears · 20/03/2025 13:09

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 13:07

And here is the reason why…because many parents are stupid and would ‘kick off’ because their little darling needed one. They are not needed in school. They waste everyone time in school. The vanishingly few who need it for medical reasons can have it but big punishments for using it inappropriately. I can assure you, hours and hours of teaching time would be saved.

No. Really no.

The OP is asking for a ban on mobile phones in school.

It's in her control to implement right now for her own kids. But seems she has chosen not to?

90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 13:11

Pigsears · 20/03/2025 13:04

Why don't you focus on what you can control and just not allow your child a phone at school if so important to you?

That doesn’t solve this problem does it. I can of course do that. But we are at a stage now where I believe, as a collective of adults; parents, teachers, medical professionals, community, we need to work together to keep children safe. This is why I am keen to know what people think about it rather than a riposte like this

OP posts:
Jade520 · 20/03/2025 13:11

Yes i think it would be great to have them removed at the beginning of the day and given back at the end - those that need them for medical reasons can obviously keep them just as they do in exams.

90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 13:13

YouveGotAFastCar · 20/03/2025 13:00

do any other parents agree with me that schools should be made to ban smartphones entirely?

What about people who use them for insulin monitoring, just as one example? The phone has to be close enough to the monitor to control the insulin.

There's a LOT more to it than what you've said.

I am horrified by the lack of attention that some parents pay to what children are up to online; and I'm not surprised that we're seeing the consequences of that now, but I'm also not convinced that removing phones during the school day will make that much of a difference if most kids have unsupervised access to them the rest of the time...

The technology is there to monitor medical devices without a smartphone. Another example where we need to do better for our children

OP posts:
JassyRadlett · 20/03/2025 13:13

Ours has had a locked away policy for the last two years and the feedback from staff has been overwhelmingly positive. Obviously there are accommodations for medical needs.

They also ditched the Chromebook programme and have a general "digital detox" ethos for the kids while in school. Homework is set in class and uploaded online but expected to be handed in physically, and handwritten by default, unless there's a specific reason for it to be online.

charmanderflame · 20/03/2025 13:13

Yes I think allowing them in their bags but telling them not to check is a bit daft. Children don't have that much self control.

To be honest most adults wouldn't be able to walk around all day with their phone on them without checking it. We are all hooked.

Pippa12 · 20/03/2025 13:14

90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 13:11

That doesn’t solve this problem does it. I can of course do that. But we are at a stage now where I believe, as a collective of adults; parents, teachers, medical professionals, community, we need to work together to keep children safe. This is why I am keen to know what people think about it rather than a riposte like this

I think we should credit young adults to make good decisions and follow the rules. Take your phone, leave it in your bag, do not get it out till the end of the day. Pretty simple. I know my DD doesn’t need her phone confiscating to adhere to simple rules. She’s managed perfectly well to stick to them for 4 years. Adequate punishment for children that don’t abide.

Internet safety is a whole other matter.

90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 13:14

Pigsears · 20/03/2025 13:09

No. Really no.

The OP is asking for a ban on mobile phones in school.

It's in her control to implement right now for her own kids. But seems she has chosen not to?

Has she?

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Sofiewoo · 20/03/2025 13:15

The pouches and lockers are hugely costly initiatives for schools to impliment. In almost all schools smartphones are banned from use, it’s that parents and pupils listen.

Really smartphone use and whether or not to ban them is down to the parents more than the school.

Pigsears · 20/03/2025 13:15

90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 13:11

That doesn’t solve this problem does it. I can of course do that. But we are at a stage now where I believe, as a collective of adults; parents, teachers, medical professionals, community, we need to work together to keep children safe. This is why I am keen to know what people think about it rather than a riposte like this

I don't need you to tell me how to parent my child. That's the thing.

You already know that you would have had the propensity to be tempted to use a phone if you had the opportunity to do so at school...and you think phones are unnecessary....but still allow your kids to have one at school??

That doesn't scream role model parenting to me.

Pigsears · 20/03/2025 13:17

What you actually want is someone else to make the decision so you don't have to be unpopular with your kids, or make them stand out at school....