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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To want to split with DH after 25 years together?

303 replies

stoviesfortea · 16/03/2025 10:03

I have had thoughts of leaving DH on and off throughout our marriage but it’s always been too difficult. Kids too young, finances etc. We are very different and I actually don’t know why we even got together. It feels like it just happened and now 25 years later and 18 years of marriage, here I am.

We generally get on and have had many good times but the same old arguments and clashes come up time and time again. It’s hard to get compromises and when we argue we both just seethe and hold resentment, push it away, ignore it and then things go back to normal. But then a few months later the arguments appear again.

A big issue is I think DH has ASD (which he doesn’t believe) as one of the things we’ve always clashed over is his avoidance of people and socialising, I can count on one hand the amount of times he’s gone out with me and my friends in the 25 years together. We do separate activities and I actually avoid going out with him as he’s so awkward if we bump into anyone. I have learned to live an essentially separate life apart from the things we do at home with the kids. I’m actually fine having this sort of life so a life without him might not feel much different. He also lacks empathy and insight and this really gets to me.

The latest argument was that he blew up when I said I wanted our kitchen done up (it’s literally falling apart) and he said no as has a total issue with workmen being in the house. We’ve had house stuff done over the years but he’s always said it’s ‘hell’ and has major issues with workmen being in our house.

We are also clashing over money. We’ve always been independent finance wise (own accounts but have a joint account too and split all bills), fairly comfortable (not rich but not poor) and mortgage now paid off. I recently got a decent amount of money so we can totally afford to do the house up and go on some nice holidays. Although I’ve said this is essentially family money he has this weird male pride thing where he says HE can’t afford these things so we can’t do them. Even though the money is sitting there! It’s bloody bizarre and feels a bit controlling. We had a huge argument over this with me saying I’ll pay for holidays and the kitchen and he’s saying they don’t need done and he can’t afford them anyway. AIBU to think that’s weird?!

We also clash over sex- he would happily do it every night whereas I cannot be arsed. We do have sex about once a week but if there’s a gap of even a few weeks he goes in a weird mood and we’ve had major arguments about this in the past.

He also says I constantly nag but he is so untidy and messy and I’m sick of running about after him and our kids. We have 2 daughters who are nearing the end of school and the thought of them going off to uni and me being with DH for another 18 years does not fill me with joy, the opposite in fact 😢

He has some pluses too but the minuses always seem to trump these.

I’ve said before we should split but I’ve never followed through with it. This time though feels different as the kids are older, I think they’d be OK and maybe not majorly surprised, I could potentially buy him out of the house, and I am getting no younger (we are in our 50’s)

AIBU to finally split?!!

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goody2shooz · 17/03/2025 19:04

@stoviesfortea being brutally honest op, it sounds as though he already has a serious illness. Refusing to ‘allow’ a window cleaner, friends round, a new kitchen etc etc sounds like a mh ‘illness’. Doesn’t mean you have to sacrifice your life for his wants though does it?

DaffodilsGalore · 17/03/2025 19:09

As bad as this sounds I also dread if he gets a serious illness and I need to care for him in old age and then there won’t be any escape at all.

What about if YOU get a severe illness and you became physically dependent on him? Like he has to take over cooking and cleaning?
What would that look?

Dappy777 · 17/03/2025 19:17

stoviesfortea · 17/03/2025 18:12

When I think of a future of just me and him and the kids away, it fills me with dread if I’m honest. What would we talk about?? (he goes on endless rants about politics etc and I switch off as he just rants and refuses to listen and I’m just not interested in debating with him cos it’s not a debate, he just shouts over me).

I’d love a retirement where I travel the world, visit my kids / future grandkids, feel free and have a life well lived.

As bad as this sounds I also dread if he gets a serious illness and I need to care for him in old age and then there won’t be any escape at all.

There’s your answer OP. Best to get out now, while you’re both relatively young. It will be hard on him, but it will be even harder if you do this when he’s 70. He isn’t going to change. In fact, most of the traits you describe will get worse. And he’ll become clingy as he ages as well. Not only will he refuse to socialise, he will resent YOU socialising. My dad got like that with my mum, and my grandfather with my gran.

Embrace it OP. Once the dust has settled, see it as an exciting new chapter in your life. So many older women are now divorced or single and there are so many more opportunities to meet people. It’s not like the 1970s, when a middle-aged woman on her own was an outcast. My advice would be to join a gym, get fit, eat healthy and take up as many hobbies as you can. Just throw yourself into everything. Good luck!

Daleksatemyshed · 17/03/2025 19:21

For you it's a home but for him it's somewhere to hide away from the world Op. He'll make you lots of promises but you know he won't change, he'll find lots of reasons why the house doesn't need changing, why he can't go out with you, why you need to stay and your life will stagnate with his. Get your ducks in a row until the DC have finished exams then just go @stoviesfortea . You could have a quiet home and a happier life without him

stoviesfortea · 17/03/2025 19:25

goody2shooz · 17/03/2025 19:04

@stoviesfortea being brutally honest op, it sounds as though he already has a serious illness. Refusing to ‘allow’ a window cleaner, friends round, a new kitchen etc etc sounds like a mh ‘illness’. Doesn’t mean you have to sacrifice your life for his wants though does it?

What sort of illness? ‘wankeritis’? Then if I say he moans about these things he will deny it and say ‘when have I ever stopped you having your friends round?’ and make me feel it’s just in my head. He wouldn’t actually stop them coming but he would say things like ‘but Im doing X that day in the house so come on, why are they coming over then’ or make a point of going upstairs or out if folk came over. I normalise that and think that’s what all men do but was then amazed when I went to a pals house for dinner with girl pals and her DH sat down with us to eat and chat and socialise. It felt so strange!

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stoviesfortea · 17/03/2025 19:28

goody2shooz · 17/03/2025 19:04

@stoviesfortea being brutally honest op, it sounds as though he already has a serious illness. Refusing to ‘allow’ a window cleaner, friends round, a new kitchen etc etc sounds like a mh ‘illness’. Doesn’t mean you have to sacrifice your life for his wants though does it?

We have also had stuff done in the house over the years so it’s not like he won’t do anything, but he just MOANS endlessly about it and would rather not do anything. If it wasn’t for me this house would look the exact same as it did when we moved in years ago

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Devianinc · 17/03/2025 19:31

CreationNat1on · 16/03/2025 10:56

Broke, messy, sex pest, who refuses holidays. Release this horny, useless beast.

He sounds like my dream man. Yuck. Go make your better, you don’t need that old ball and chain around your neck and just sucking the life out of you. Make new plans for yourself.. life better I meant

Devianinc · 17/03/2025 19:31

Devianinc · 17/03/2025 19:31

He sounds like my dream man. Yuck. Go make your better, you don’t need that old ball and chain around your neck and just sucking the life out of you. Make new plans for yourself.. life better I meant

He sounds like a tick or a bed bug.

stoviesfortea · 17/03/2025 19:44

DaffodilsGalore · 17/03/2025 19:09

As bad as this sounds I also dread if he gets a serious illness and I need to care for him in old age and then there won’t be any escape at all.

What about if YOU get a severe illness and you became physically dependent on him? Like he has to take over cooking and cleaning?
What would that look?

Don’t get me wrong he’s not all bad, he does all the cooking which is great. He’s also a brilliant dad in many ways. That’s what makes it hard, a lot of the time it ticks along fine and I’ve found ways to live with his ‘quirks’. But after another argument over the same old themes I’m tired of it all and the effort it takes.

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Sulu17 · 17/03/2025 19:49

No one said you have to hate them before you leave. If your relationship is making you unhappy and you dread the future, then that's a good enough reason. Things are sometimes not that clear - cut. His response is not your responsibility. You might be surprised just how quickly he seems to get over it/finds another mug to put up with him. It is the practicalities you need to focus on, I think.

Devianinc · 17/03/2025 19:56

You just needed a rant, I hope things get better for you if that’s how you want it to work and getting off your chest makes you feel better. Good luck

Mirabai · 17/03/2025 20:11

Cooking is great. It’s just not enough.

DaffodilsGalore · 17/03/2025 20:39

stoviesfortea · 17/03/2025 19:44

Don’t get me wrong he’s not all bad, he does all the cooking which is great. He’s also a brilliant dad in many ways. That’s what makes it hard, a lot of the time it ticks along fine and I’ve found ways to live with his ‘quirks’. But after another argument over the same old themes I’m tired of it all and the effort it takes.

But would he actually be able to care for you?

stoviesfortea · 17/03/2025 21:04

DaffodilsGalore · 17/03/2025 20:39

But would he actually be able to care for you?

Not emotionally. There’s been times I’ve been really upset and he doesn’t pick up that a hug might be nice. When my parents were dying I would wait to see how long after I got home til he asked how my visit was. Sometimes it was hours later or not at all.

After my mums funeral he told me to stop crying as he’d had to put up with it for weeks. I had a tricky relationship with my mum struggled with her and he didn’t like her but FFS- the day of her funeral?!

I told him I was leaving after that. But I didn’t. Should have really.

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justasking111 · 17/03/2025 21:59

A couple we knew the husband retired from teaching, the wife her last parent died left her an inheritance she immediately packed up her things and moved out, then filed for divorce. We were all stunned. He was a bit boring but obviously there was more to it.

@stoviesfortea you'll be fine. You'll create a new life with your children and their friends. He's so awkward I suspect your friends won't be surprised.

I wouldn't hang onto that house either.

researchers3 · 17/03/2025 22:28

stoviesfortea · 16/03/2025 13:48

It is. But he keeps saying it’s all in my head and I’m twisting things. That we’ve been out ‘tons of times’ with my friends. I can count maybe 5 times in 25 years so that’s total nonsense.

I feel envious of people who go out with their partner with pride, who love being together and doing things together. He said he’s noticed I don’t show any interest in him or his life, I’ll admit to that but it’s because I’m actually not interested in it 😕 Maybe cos the kids are older and don’t need us as much it’s feeling like a huge void / chasm.

I went to a friends 50th recently- her husband invited everyone and did a speech and a lovely spread and the house was just full of love and joy. I loved that for my friend but I couldn’t help but feel sadness that my DH would never even think about doing anything like that for me. Ever.

I don’t even ever get given flowers cos ‘they stink’.

Your comment re flowers 'stinking' instantly made me think he's probably autistic. So much inflexibility is a classic sign.

It sounds like you've reached the end OP.

stoviesfortea · 17/03/2025 22:31

justasking111 · 17/03/2025 21:59

A couple we knew the husband retired from teaching, the wife her last parent died left her an inheritance she immediately packed up her things and moved out, then filed for divorce. We were all stunned. He was a bit boring but obviously there was more to it.

@stoviesfortea you'll be fine. You'll create a new life with your children and their friends. He's so awkward I suspect your friends won't be surprised.

I wouldn't hang onto that house either.

Good on that woman.

I love our house though. It’s where the kids grew up and it’s near their pals etc. I feels too small just now but if he was to move out it would feel absolutely huge as he has so much crap everywhere and that would be going with him.

But if we did separate and another house came up that I loved and could afford, I think it would be utterly amazing to be able to just go for it. And not worry about how to bring up a tricky conversation about ‘could we move?’ to be told ‘no way our house is fine why do you want to change that?!!!’ and a point blank refusal to ever entertain that idea.

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stoviesfortea · 17/03/2025 22:34

researchers3 · 17/03/2025 22:28

Your comment re flowers 'stinking' instantly made me think he's probably autistic. So much inflexibility is a classic sign.

It sounds like you've reached the end OP.

He once threw out a bouquet of flowers I got from someone at work cos he didn’t like the smell. Didn’t stop to think they were my flowers and a gesture from a friend and how I would feel. If I get flowers now I have to put them far away from where he usually sits / works or I get moans

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StarDolphins · 17/03/2025 22:51

he’a definitely ‘here for a long time, not a fun time’ isn’t he🤣 sorry op, I really haven’t got anything useful to say but he sounds like a draining wet fish & you sound lovely. I’m surprised he hasn’t rubbed off on you! What a joyless man.

SixtySomething · 17/03/2025 22:57

Do you think your husband would be happy to separate?
Somehow I don't think he would.

feelingrobbed · 17/03/2025 23:02

Chop chop!!! Hurry up and enjoy life 🤩good for you

AcrossthePond55 · 18/03/2025 00:23

@stoviesfortea

I agree with @Sicario 's list plus one addition. At the top of the list must be "See a solicitor". You need good legal advice as to what divorce may mean to you. Get the financial papers organized and take them with you. Find out your options regarding the house; usually one buys the other out or the house is sold and the equity divided. "Lock down" the legalities of your inheritance and any actions you need to take to save it.

At this point say nothing, do nothing as far as talking to him goes. Let him think you're 'back in your box'. Get everything organized, legally and otherwise, make your decisions and then present him the divorce as a fait accompli: "I am unhappy and I will be getting a divorce". You don't need to justify it or try to 'work on things'. If you want out, that's all you need to get out.

goody2shooz · 18/03/2025 06:46

AcrossthePond55 · 18/03/2025 00:23

@stoviesfortea

I agree with @Sicario 's list plus one addition. At the top of the list must be "See a solicitor". You need good legal advice as to what divorce may mean to you. Get the financial papers organized and take them with you. Find out your options regarding the house; usually one buys the other out or the house is sold and the equity divided. "Lock down" the legalities of your inheritance and any actions you need to take to save it.

At this point say nothing, do nothing as far as talking to him goes. Let him think you're 'back in your box'. Get everything organized, legally and otherwise, make your decisions and then present him the divorce as a fait accompli: "I am unhappy and I will be getting a divorce". You don't need to justify it or try to 'work on things'. If you want out, that's all you need to get out.

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@stoviesfortea this. THIS!

stoviesfortea · 18/03/2025 06:57

SixtySomething · 17/03/2025 22:57

Do you think your husband would be happy to separate?
Somehow I don't think he would.

No, he will be devastated. He loves me and said the other day he really doesn’t want to split up. It’s not all bad, we have some great times too but these seem to centre around the kids and family things. I think I feel there is going to be a massive void when they leave home, one is moving out this year for uni and the other maybe next year. My heart feels like it’s breaking with them going. I love them so much but when I think of how I feel if DH was to move out I don’t have any of those feelings at all. I’d be absolutely fine and relieved if he left.

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Mattersoftheheart · 18/03/2025 06:58

@stoviesfortea I just did this. 27 years together 22 married. It’s hard. The guilt I cannot even describe. But you only have one life. And it is better spending what is left of it in peace.

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