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Teaching- any other jobs that make you cry regularly?

363 replies

Whosaidthattt · 16/03/2025 00:21

I quit teaching last year, after years in a negative, toxic environment, which I thought was my fault.
Most days, I cried on the way to work, at lunchtime in a cupboard or driving home. I now see that this was the culture rather than me. It took changing a 20 year career to see this.
Is there any other job out there that has staff regularly crying before/during/after work? It's so wrong!

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EndorsingPRActice · 16/03/2025 09:38

i'm in banking compliance. It's stressful, male dominated, high demand, of course I cry regularly. It's responsible, indirectly if we make a wrong call, there are many jobs on the line. It pays quite well though and is interesting so I'm happy to continue.

Mnetcurious · 16/03/2025 09:39

Prettybubblesintheair · 16/03/2025 01:16

Healthcare receptionist. Regularly shouted at for things that are out of my control, not my fault or because my hands are tied by government requirements. Do you really think I get a kick out of asking you to fill in a form, do you think it’s a hobby I do for fun? I speak to 100+ patients a day and generally repeat the same things over and over. I’m sorry your healthcare provider is running late, they aren’t even in the building yet because they can’t be arsed to get here on time but you’re right, it makes perfect sense you shout at me about it. Do you think I want you sat in the waiting room glaring at me because your appointment is late? And yes, I do understand “I do work you know, I don’t have all day”…funnily enough I also work, here in fact! I’m not here because I’ve completed Netflix and had nothing better to do. I am here, at my job, on time…would you like me to try and teleport the healthcare provider so you can have your appointment and be on your way? Because believe me, I would much, much rather you were seen on time. Yes, this provider is always late and has had several disciplinary warnings but they are still at least 45 minutes late, every day.

Next time you’re at the doctors or the dentist, please just fill in the fucking forms without arguing with reception. We know you’ve been here before, we are very well trained in which forms are required and when. And if your doctor/dentist is running late, don’t shout at the receptionist. She is there, on time, doing her job. The fact that your health care provider went to uni does not give them the right to be late, they’re not off doing something big or important. They’re grabbing a Starbucks on the way in or scrolling tik tok in the surgery.

I totally understand your pov and it’s awful how some people take it out on doctors/hospital receptionists. HOWEVER many receptionists seem to automatically start from a place of cold, uncaring hostility. Chances are if a person is visiting or contacting a surgery, they are feeling unwell and/or worried about their health or that of a loved one. A little compassion would go a long way. I always talk to receptionists politely but don’t always receive the same courtesy back from them.

Hwi · 16/03/2025 09:39

Matsukaze · 16/03/2025 01:01

You beat me to it. Solidarity.

I thought you guys were so overworked that your families, etc. suffered because of your lack of time, but you seem to be able to find the time to be on MN, read posts and even comment? However I did not know the profession made you cry - strange how it is near impossible to get into med these days - those silly entrants must not realise how horrible and underpaid the profession is.

MakkaPakkasCave · 16/03/2025 09:39

Auburngal · 16/03/2025 07:20

My last job at the supermarket. The current store manager bullied me over my dyslexia. I was the 8th colleague to leave due to his behaviour. He made a similar ratio of staff leave at his previous store, including two decent managers. Everyone’s thinking he is still a store manager due to his religion. They are scared of him playing the racism card if he’s sacked.

Then customers who scream obscenities, being rude, nasty towards me when they are at fault but bloody deny it. These people don’t know how they are making staff leave.

Finally the selfish shelf stripping 5 years this week. We kept strong during the trade hours. Seeing 95% of the shelves being empty was soul destroying. The only things left on the shelves were sun cream, posh face creams, champagne and expensive whiskey. The situation increased the cortisol levels in me and I had covid a few days before the first lockdown. Didn’t get tested at the time as nearest test centres were 40 miles away! Had an antibody test in the early summer and I had COVID. I had covid in July 2022 and had LFT confirming this. Exactly the same headache. Something constantly hitting my left temple

This store manager - I wonder what sort of people he replaced all those he bullied out of their jobs with?

WitchesCauldron · 16/03/2025 09:40

Whosaidthattt · 16/03/2025 00:21

I quit teaching last year, after years in a negative, toxic environment, which I thought was my fault.
Most days, I cried on the way to work, at lunchtime in a cupboard or driving home. I now see that this was the culture rather than me. It took changing a 20 year career to see this.
Is there any other job out there that has staff regularly crying before/during/after work? It's so wrong!

AE nurse. Horrific.

NHS has a very toxic environment. Let's just say not all nurses are angels...

EveryKneeShallBow · 16/03/2025 09:40

I have cried over my career but always thought it was because I was not good enough somehow. The happiest person I know, in terms of loving his work is my family member who is a self employed tree surgeon. Has so much work he can name his price, work when he wants to, is healthy AF with no need for the gym, and providing opportunities for his sons and young apprentices.

ElfinsMum · 16/03/2025 09:41

Oh and unreasonable deadlines. Can't forget those.

Can anyone who has career changed to teaching from a corporate or professional services background comment on whether the hours in teaching are better or worse??

SlatternIsMyMiddleName · 16/03/2025 09:42

Solicitor. You get grief from everybody. Everybody. Nobody is happy.

RunVelma · 16/03/2025 09:43

I was a teacher for twenty years. When I first started, I used to leave work with a spring in my step. By the end, I’d be in tears the whole way home after holding it together all day.

Worse than that, every minute that I wasn’t at work, the stress and worry would eat away at me. The only thing that stopped the chatter in my head was alcohol.

I’m so glad I left. There’s lots about the job that I miss, but being treated like shit on a daily basis wears you down.

ProudCat · 16/03/2025 09:49

I'm a secondary teacher now. Rarely cry. But I have a fantastic support network. My daughter works in child protection. It's a shit show.

In my early career I worked in medical negligence specialising in obs and gynae. That was horrific.

I realised recently that my insatiable appetite for US medical dramas (Nightshift, Resident, etc.) is probably so I can externalise my emotions, i.e. have a good cry without disappearing down a rabbit hole.

LonelyLeveret · 16/03/2025 09:49

Pretty much any healthcare role particularly A+E. We've nicknamed the clean utility the 'crying cupboard'. I'd day at least 1 member of staff is having a cry / mental breakdown per shift. Big shout out to our poor receptionists who seem to take the brunt of abuse from cross family members. Also solidarity to all the GPs posting, sorry to see things are equally as crap and unsustainable in primary care.

RosesAndHellebores · 16/03/2025 09:49

Sherry1978 · 16/03/2025 09:37

My son choked when he was a 5 year old and was saved by a massive ex army neighbour. Everyone told me to take him to A&E to get checked to see of everything was OK. I will never forget the receptionist. She didn't look up at us once and said "why are you here? He survived didn't he?" . I couldn't believe it. There are good and bad out there!

Yes, sadly I have seen GP and Hospital reception staff being far ruder to patients than I have ever seen a patient being rude to them. I've come across lovely staff but equally I have been shouted at for no reason.

An example being when I approached the orthopaedic out patient desk on crutches and was yelled at because apparently all the staff had been looking for me for half an hour because I'd disappeared after checking in and the Dr wanted my XRays. I hadn't checked in. My appointment was at 1.30pm and I had arrived at 1.15pm. Because I asked who they thought they were speaking to and to desist from raising their voices at me, they became even ruder and no doubt I was, in their minds a tiresome patient.

They then started on a young black man with a leg brace and spikes who I saw them misdirect up and down corridors. When he "lost it" they called security. It gave me great pleasure to intervene and be crystal clear there was provocation involved and make the point that I was in far less pain, white, middle aged and middle class and able to advocate for myself and had still been shouted at. I insisted the manager/matron was called. Blah, blah, busy clinics, excuses, etc. Quite honestly, I'm surprised nobody gave them a punch on the nose. Although I don't condone it, they deserved it.

Motheranddaughter · 16/03/2025 09:50

Have been a solicitor for 30 years and have never cried in work
If I was regularly crying in work I would see my GP/seek counselling/ look for a new job/career
Life is too short to be miserable at work

HelenWheels · 16/03/2025 09:52

A & E or GP receptionist is one job i would not do

Globules · 16/03/2025 09:54

For a bit of balance, I've been teaching over 25 years and can't remember how many times I've cried over my job, because it's been hardly any.

I love my job with a passion and skip into work most days. One school was not a pleasant workplace, so I handed my notice in after 5 weeks and had a new job for January.

I think if I did a straw poll of my 50+ current colleagues, most feel like I do.

These threads make me sad, as they paint all us teachers in the same crying light.

TheignT · 16/03/2025 09:55

Having read this how on earth could you advise kids on a future career.

I used to have a horrible boss in one job but otherwise I've been really lucky. At one time I did the admin for the vice squad in my local force. It was trying at times but such a supportive team to work in. Occasionally something made me feel physically sick and I'd spend my lunch hour getting some fresh air rather than eating.

juggleit · 16/03/2025 09:56

Kittyfur · 16/03/2025 00:48

Omg! Why?

Huh! Do you really need clarification on that one? Are you living under a rock!?

Catsandcannedbeans · 16/03/2025 09:58

Manager at a Wetherspoons. Sometimes cried stress, sometimes cried because physically assaulted by punters, occasionally cried because I burned myself in the kitchen. I haven’t do it for years now, and I’m glad I did it because it truly was baptism by fire (also met DP there).

IDoWhateverItTakes · 16/03/2025 10:01

Blankscreen · 16/03/2025 00:59

Lawyer. It's awful

Yep. Why I left the profession.

RosesAndHellebores · 16/03/2025 10:01

The thing is dd is a secondary teacher. She's 26 so early career teaching and a difficult demographic.

She leaves the house at 7am to get in for 7.30am. She gets PPA and breaks. She's finished at 4pm. Monday nights she has two tutoring sessions, Wednesdays she does an after school club. She spends no more than a couple of hours a couple of evenings doing prep/marking, and drafting emails to parents which I've helped her with. I have been astounded at the thank you's and gifts she has received.

One thing she does do which is above and beyond is to spend a week prepping for the curriculum at the end of holidays, getting her lesson plans and resources tee'd up.

Cucy · 16/03/2025 10:01

I left teaching to work in a prison.

I’ve not cried one day since being there.
I would not go back.

Teaching in prison can be low paid and quite stressful (not because of the prisoners) but every teacher (ex primary, secondary and college) I’ve spoken to said they would not go back to teaching outside of a prison and would rather leave the profession completely.

CappuccinoChocolate · 16/03/2025 10:04

It sounds soul destroying for many of you, do you ever think about alternative careers?

I get that it takes years to train and passion to get where you want to be.

Daughter wants to be a SEN teacher - I have my worries. Other alternatives LD nursing.

juggleit · 16/03/2025 10:05

TheaBrandt1 · 16/03/2025 07:49

Corporate law Magic Circle I used to just work round the clock. It became normal. Would meet Dh at Wagamamas by the office on Friday nights then go back to the office afterwards. Mental. Intense negotiations through the night everyone angry and stressed. The Fear of making a mistake.

Had a baby and never went back. Colleagues had day nannies and night nannies never saw their kids. Fuck that. Best decision Dh and I ever made was to walk away from the City and London. Met Dh there because that was the only place I ever was!

When we both left the other lawyers were shocked we were leaving! Everyone normal left. Work for myself now bloody love it and you know what?! Last year made the same salary I did in that sweat shop.

Are you still in law?
my DD has talked about a law degree- i don’t think her personality would cope with the environment you describe.

DrFoxtrot · 16/03/2025 10:06

I always think that people who don’t have jobs that cause this amount of stress lived charmed lives 😭 I know I’ve got it the wrong way round. We should all be like that. Like when you hear about someone who has regular meal times, chance to exercise and the headspace to do things like gardening. My mind is blown frequently by other peoples seemingly more simple lives. I say seemingly, as of course you can never know what life is like for others.

I see it every single day in my own job and other people who come to see me. Lots of people are stressed to the point of tears and beyond.

medlow · 16/03/2025 10:07

Sorry, I hadn;t read the whole thread when I asked why corporate law was so regularly mentioned. So it seems to be the hours, the pressure from bosses and clients. Is that the same for defence, legal aid , private firms etc or is it just corporate? Just out of interest as I say my son has just been inducted and is working with a corporate firm and has been part time for years and hasn't struck any problems. Maybe its the move from paralegal to solicitor: pay goes up and expectations go up,
I will be so sorry for him if 5 1/2 years of work is all for waste.( He did a double degree with finance) but law was what he wanted. All the unhappy corporate lawyers have you thought of moving to company secretary, private practice, in-house advice for , well any company really. It just depresses me that all these smart people are sitting about crying and you have one of the most valued degrees in the world.
I hope it works out for all and I really hope it works out for my son!!!!