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Child Benefit Rival Claim Ex Partner Earning Loads!!!!!

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ProlongedAffair · 15/03/2025 18:28

Me and my ex share 50/50 of our two children, it’s not court ordered but has been in place for the past few years. A few months ago I put in a claim for CMS and was awarded it, they see me as the primary carer because I get both children’s child benefits. I also discovered my ex is earning a 6 figure salary.

Last week I got a letter from child benefit saying that he is challenging my claim. I said to the lady that he earns too much to claim and I suspect he’s only claiming so he can try to get out of CMS. She told me that because he has the children for half the time and child benefit isn’t means tested, the likelihood is they will award child benefit one each! Surely that can’t be correct, can anyone advise who has been through their rival claims process?? He will then be able to claim CMS from me!!

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LePetitMaman · 22/04/2025 18:19

RadioWhatsNew · 22/04/2025 18:04

But that's not quite true OP is it? You had another post a number of weeks ago where you asked if you aibu to claim maintenance and you were resoundingly told you would be, you were told you wouldn't be entitled to it, hat it would jeopardise your co-parenting relationship and that their father did an equal share of care and already gave you money monthly when he didn't need to.

If I recall correctly you ended that seemingly in agreement that upon reflection you would cancel the claim and the co-parent relationship was more important than the money but yet here we are with £££ in your eyes having continued the claim and now having the audacity to complain that your ex isn't happy and is rightly seeking 50% of the children's benefits.

This is a problem of your own making where Instead of taking the advice on board from your last thread which clearly didn't go how you wanted you've doubled down and make everything worse for yourself. Don't be surprised if he stops giving you any money at all once your maintenance claim has been denied and you lose half your child benefit.

Was that OP? A username search shows she's only on this thread

LePetitMaman · 22/04/2025 18:22

Ahhh.

Yeah cross post

It's her. Two people cant be that blinkered and stupid with such similar circumstances.

Imagine being this dim and on £65k. I weep for society...

RadioWhatsNew · 22/04/2025 18:24

If its not OP who's name changed when making this thread then I would be shocked given the similarities in both threads, however, OP won't confirm or deny that it's her when people have consistently referred to it throughout this current thread, so draw from that your own conclusion.

kittensinthekitchen · 22/04/2025 20:07

Oh that is 100% the same person.
Which is funny, because on that previous thread, she says the dad must pay around £200 out on his 'half' of extras. With that plus the £300 paid in maintenence...... that's more than the £450 she calculated via the CMS (referenced on the previous thread i think)

ProlongedAffair · 23/04/2025 16:53

@Withoutfearorfavour Did you have 50/50 when you told them firmly on the phone that you were the primary carer? Did they just accept your word without investigating? They have asked for two rounds of evidence so far.

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Mooselooseinmyhoose · 23/04/2025 19:19

LePetitMaman · 22/04/2025 18:19

Was that OP? A username search shows she's only on this thread

She's been asked repeatedly if the other thread was her. She's never answered but also never denied it and refers to details of both threads such as the private medical and dental.

LePetitMaman · 23/04/2025 19:34

She's not all het up over him not needing the child benefit when she purportedly also earns over the limit for it to really amount to anything.

She's pissed that "he won't even get the money" because he earns £110k. Well, neither does she for a chunk of it, because £65k will result in several hundreds lost through the high income CB charge. Not all of it, but a good amount.

Yet that's all fine, but the audacity of him to be in a virtually identical position re claiming and not receiving the cash?

Doubtful....

I also suspect we'll be told how she's definitely been awarded both claims, irrespective.

carrotsandtomatoes · 23/04/2025 20:01

ProlongedAffair · 22/04/2025 13:53

Because I’ve been the primary carer for years so it seems unfair he can now swoop in and stop paying maintenance and claim child benefits. And I still think I do more admin and my name is registered with more places for the children.

But he didn’t swoop in did he. YOU went all guns ablazing ti seek more of his money.

he has them 50:50. YOU have stated that here multiple times. He also paid £300 a month and pays for somethings like phones.

he only put in a CB claim BECAUSE YOU went in demanding more. YOU started this. You just think he should do whatever you say.

you earn £60k. You aren’t hard up and he pays half of everything. ALL of some other things and paid you £300 on top.

what actually do you want and why do you think you deserve it? Why do you feel his increased earnings have anything to do with you?

he may turn around and tell you that all the things he’s currently paying for are now 50% your responsibility. At best you’ll come out similar to where you are now. At worst you’ll be worse off and either way you’ve fucked the amicable relationship you had due to greed

ARichtGoodDram · 23/04/2025 22:07

ProlongedAffair · 23/04/2025 16:53

@Withoutfearorfavour Did you have 50/50 when you told them firmly on the phone that you were the primary carer? Did they just accept your word without investigating? They have asked for two rounds of evidence so far.

They do not take people telling them "firmly" as evidence.

SheilaFentiman · 23/04/2025 22:20

ARichtGoodDram · 23/04/2025 22:07

They do not take people telling them "firmly" as evidence.

What if you also give them a Paddington Hard Stare? 😀

ProlongedAffair · 24/04/2025 11:54

ARichtGoodDram · 23/04/2025 22:07

They do not take people telling them "firmly" as evidence.

According to that poster, that’s what happened in their case…

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SheilaFentiman · 24/04/2025 14:26

ProlongedAffair · 24/04/2025 11:54

According to that poster, that’s what happened in their case…

I suspect (though that poster hasn’t answered the question from you/others) that this is because that poster and her ex did not have equal care and she did more. You, however, do have equal care.

InterIgnis · 24/04/2025 14:45

ProlongedAffair · 24/04/2025 11:54

According to that poster, that’s what happened in their case…

And as you can see, by having to provide two lots of evidence so far, they definitely do just take your word for it(!)

What the poster said =\ the truth.

ProlongedAffair · 25/04/2025 14:41

Does anyone know how long it takes for them to make a decision after receiving the evidence?

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femfemlicious · 25/04/2025 15:45

LePetitMaman · 03/04/2025 17:19

Hey @ProlongedAffair

When you get the paperwork through and you lose the CB for one child. All the CMS for that child. All the UC you're claiming for that child. And have to pay him CMS for the child now seen as "his", are you going to run up and down outside the CMS office yelling "but he's got a good job, give me money!!"

You are. Aren't you.

I'm here for when they award him CB for both, because that's what he's entitled too. Hope you aren't relying on UC paying your rent because you're more fucked than you know if you are.

@ProlongedAffair you better listen to this. You qre going to lose A LOT!

Merryberrypie · 25/04/2025 15:53

ProlongedAffair · 24/04/2025 11:54

According to that poster, that’s what happened in their case…

That’s because the poster thinks that was the reason why when in reality they would have done their checks and made a decision regardless of how she told them

LePetitMaman · 25/04/2025 16:36

There's absolutely no way she's on £60k (the other thread actually says £65k) whilst simultaneously flapping about him "not even receiving the money for CB because of what he earns"

Because if that was her true wage, she would lose a big chunk as well, and wouldn't be outraged at him, as she'd effectively be in the same position.

She's not in the same position. Or she wouldn't keep coming out with it being unreasonable that someone who doesn't receive the actual money, still claims the CB.

SheilaFentiman · 25/04/2025 18:39

None if on 60k and not a big chunk if on 65k

General description of the measure
This measure increases the adjusted net income threshold for the High Income Child Benefit Charge (HICBC) from £50,000 to £60,000, from 6 April 2024.

For individuals with income above £80,000, the amount of the tax charge will equal the amount of the Child Benefit payment. For those with income between £60,000 and £80,000, the rate at which HICBC is charged is halved, and will equal one per cent for every £200 of income that exceeds £60,000. The amount of Child Benefit payable will be unaffected by these changes.

Laura95167 · 25/04/2025 19:54

LePetitMaman · 25/04/2025 16:36

There's absolutely no way she's on £60k (the other thread actually says £65k) whilst simultaneously flapping about him "not even receiving the money for CB because of what he earns"

Because if that was her true wage, she would lose a big chunk as well, and wouldn't be outraged at him, as she'd effectively be in the same position.

She's not in the same position. Or she wouldn't keep coming out with it being unreasonable that someone who doesn't receive the actual money, still claims the CB.

If she was earning £65k any Child Bemefit money would be fully repaid as tax. Shes get £0, she would just have the award notice

SheilaFentiman · 25/04/2025 20:03

Laura95167 · 25/04/2025 19:54

If she was earning £65k any Child Bemefit money would be fully repaid as tax. Shes get £0, she would just have the award notice

Not any more. See my post just above yours.

ProlongedAffair · 25/04/2025 20:04

I get the money, it depends on the year, it fluctuates. He can’t get any of the award and that isn’t in the children’s best interests, I’ve written that on my letter.

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dementedpixie · 25/04/2025 20:05

Laura95167 · 25/04/2025 19:54

If she was earning £65k any Child Bemefit money would be fully repaid as tax. Shes get £0, she would just have the award notice

This is not longer true. It starts being paid back at £60k and is all paid back at £80K

dementedpixie · 25/04/2025 20:06

ProlongedAffair · 25/04/2025 20:04

I get the money, it depends on the year, it fluctuates. He can’t get any of the award and that isn’t in the children’s best interests, I’ve written that on my letter.

He can get the money and then pay it back in tax

Laura95167 · 25/04/2025 20:07

dementedpixie · 25/04/2025 20:05

This is not longer true. It starts being paid back at £60k and is all paid back at £80K

Thats true but only since this month i think so up until then, if she's been earning £60k it would have all been repaid as tax

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