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House buyer has moved stuff in before completion.

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AlinaRawlings · 15/03/2025 18:27

Hi everyone, apologies as this is long.

I have what I think is an unusual situation and I just wanted some opinions on my next move.
I split with my husband in 2023 and we have now divorced. We obtained a financial order by consent in November 2024 which stated I could occupy our marital home with our 3 children until it was sold with most of the proceeds going to me (we had other properties and capital that went to him). I am not on the mortgage and he is the legal owner so when we separated I obtained a right to occupy notice over the property. I agreed to remove this and it was removed on January 10th. He is very awkward and quite abusive and manipulative and our relationship is strained at best but I try to stay civil for the children.

He accepted an offer on the property within a week (November 7th) and he told me he will keep me updated the whole way through. On the 10th January he told me that the house was going to complete on 15th January. I was dumbfounded that he had not kept me up to date and told him there’s no way I could find a rented property (which I’d decided to go into until I’d saved a bit more to buy a home outright for myself and the kids) and move within 5 days. He was extremely abusive telling me I would lose us the sale. I had no access to his conveying solicitor who would not speak to me as I am not the legal owner. I then found a property and moved out within 14 days. I asked him when completion would then happen and he had no clue. This dragged on for weeks.

I then got a call from him on 7th March telling me I need to hand the keys to the buyer as she needed to move her stuff in (I still had the keys and still had belongings in there). I asked had he exchanged he said she refuses to exchange until she has the keys. I told him that that’s too risky for us both and could cause many issues. I then got a barrage of abuse and was told “she’ll call you to explain just give her whatever she wants”. She then calls me and tells me she’s a financial remedy judge (about 5 times) and how she’d never have touched the property had she known there was a matrimonial charge on it or known it was a “divorce property” (she was told this upon viewing). How her child had now lost his place at his preferred high school and that a condition of her offer was a completion date of 15th January due to her child’s school place. I asked why it hadn’t exchanged and she said she’ll do it today whilst I hand her the keys. I explained I still have stuff in there and that I’d need time to move it, she said I’ll stick it all in the garage for you. I felt bullied by both my ex and her and agreed as she repeatedly told me she’s a judge and can be trusted, that she’ll take on insurance liability, that she can’t get time off to move so needs the keys to move in the evenings, that she wants her electrician to come and put up light fittings, that she’s happy to pull out if I don’t acquiesce so I ended up hurriedly going up there grabbing what I could and handing her the keys over. I did ask when completion would happen and she said it’s out of her hands as a company is buying her home and they’re dragging their feet.

it’s now over a week later. I have asked my ex to keep my updated (we only speak on msg never face to face as it’s too volatile). He has ignored me. I still had her number from her calling me so I sent her a nice msg basically saying can she keep me in the loop as now she has the keys I have no idea when completion will be and my ex won’t tell me. She seemed very annoyed that I had msged her directly and told me she’s not the mediator between me and my ex. That this was all our fault for not completing on January 15th and that it will basically takes as long as it takes, she then asked me not to msg her again as she will only communicate with the legal owner and not to contact her again. She also threatened to remove her things and just pull out as it’s all stop stressful for her. I have also asked can his solicitor send proceeds from the property straight to me and he said his solicitor said as I’m not his client then no it will have to go to my ex then to me. This is a huge amount of money that I don’t trust him with. I have no money to obtain legal advice and I now don’t know the best course of action. I feel a bit like a fool for not demanding a completion date before handing over the keys but she’s certainly flexed her authority and knowledge as a judge over me.

Am I being unreasonable in asking the buyer to commit to a completion date and should I have give her the keys in the first place?

OP posts:
AlinaRawlings · 16/03/2025 13:15

Thankyou everyone! I did have a solicitor who dealt with the family law stuff and she is an absolute shark and spent ages on the phone with me beforehand going through it all and she never charged me for that initial call. I’m going to get back on to her tomorrow and get this mess sorted out.

I truly don’t believe he knows this woman. He has a partner and new baby and she has a husband and 2 children who I’ve met. She’s quite a bit older as well and just wouldn’t be in his circles. I realise reading my original post back it could read that way but I genuinely just think this is a case of him not being very bright and not thinking of the consequences. His priority is to offload that house so he no longer has to pay the mortgage or associated bills and he will do anything to do that. He’s certainly impressed by her job title but I can see exactly what she’s doing, her priority is getting a nice easy ride getting moved in and the house exactly as she wants it before she officially moves in. She’s not in any rush to complete now because why would she be, she can move at her leisure.

I will update if and when there’s more progress, thankyou for everyone’s “good lucks” I’m certainly going to need it!

OP posts:
poetryandwine · 16/03/2025 13:32

Thanks for the updates, OP, especially the most recent one.

I still find it difficult to believe that this woman is a judge and I remain concerned for your vulnerability. So glad you are seeing your solicitor tomorrow! Please let us know how it goes

Needspaceforlego · 16/03/2025 14:20

Glad you are taking on board everyone's concerns
Good luck

RoastDinnerSmellsNice · 16/03/2025 14:59

Pleased to read your last update OP. Do keep coming back to let us know how things are progressing, as we're all here to help and support you in any way we can.

Good luck tomorrow.

binkie163 · 16/03/2025 18:55

Hate to say it but I don't believe she is a judge. She keeps threatening to pull out of sale for a house she is already in. She can put off completion for months living there rent free. I find it odd that a judge would believe she can move in before completion, it is highly irregular. No one moves in before completion and money has been paid. Chances are she has already changed the locks. She gets the keys when your/his solicitor gets the money. Your solicitor should bollock her for bullying a disabled vulnerable woman and the estate agent.

independentfriend · 16/03/2025 20:02

Assuming you're in England, there are rules against judges misusing their authority/power in a private context - you can consider a complaint to the Judicial Conduct Investigations Office.

Also consider the possibility she was lying about being a judge - nobody would only sit in financial remedy cases and/or that she's a fee paid judge who works mostly as a solicitor/ barrister but is a judge for a certain number of days each year. If that's the case you also have the option of complaining to the professional body.

LittleCharlotte · 16/03/2025 20:06

AlinaRawlings · 15/03/2025 21:27

Thankyou everyone for your help, it is as I suspected a very risky thing that we have done. I think I’m going to give it until 25th and if I don’t have a firm completion date I will as somebody suggested get legal advice on possibly putting in another home rights notice.

If this property actually hasn’t exchanged then this is far worse than I thought. It’s such a nasty business selling and buying a house, it really does bring out the worst in people.

just to add I don’t even know her full name to check if she’s a judge and I wouldn’t want to get her in any trouble at this point anyway, as long as it alls goes through in the end then I’ll be happy, if not then it will be a different story. Hopefully this will work itself out in a week or 2, if not then I will certainly seek legal advice.

Why don't you want to get her into trouble? If she'd said she were a window cleaner I doubt you'd have been so browbeaten into acquiescence. She absolutely needs reporting. Good luck.

daleylama · 16/03/2025 23:50

AlinaRawlings · 15/03/2025 22:53

This is exactly what I need! TBH I have been a massive mug (whilst he calls me unreasonable and demands more and more of me). It’s been a rough time but I am so close to the end…at least in financial terms, then I’ll only have to deal with his parenting problems but that’s a whole other thread!

Reading this thread is making me feel sick for you. Forget 'I have no money for a solicitor' . You'll have nothing if you don't get a tough solicitor onto this first thing. And urgently call reliable friends and ask their help to get referrals to decent legal aid.. There are plenty of crap ones around who'll make this even worse..

Jumpers4goalposts · 17/03/2025 06:27

When we last sold our house our buyer moved in before completion. However the EA set up a rental agreement to cover the period we moved out and completion. I wouldn’t have done it without this. We did it because they were from out of town and she was 9 and a half month pregnant and he was the new manager for a newly built supermarket which was opening in a month so it was a very specific set of circumstances. It was all set up very quickly they viewed the Thursday and rental agreement was sorted for the Saturday. She actually gave birth 3 days after moving into the house. The house never was listed as a rental in this situation. Maybe the EA arranged something like this? I agree with others though you need legal advice.

Nic834 · 17/03/2025 08:20

AlinaRawlings · 16/03/2025 13:15

Thankyou everyone! I did have a solicitor who dealt with the family law stuff and she is an absolute shark and spent ages on the phone with me beforehand going through it all and she never charged me for that initial call. I’m going to get back on to her tomorrow and get this mess sorted out.

I truly don’t believe he knows this woman. He has a partner and new baby and she has a husband and 2 children who I’ve met. She’s quite a bit older as well and just wouldn’t be in his circles. I realise reading my original post back it could read that way but I genuinely just think this is a case of him not being very bright and not thinking of the consequences. His priority is to offload that house so he no longer has to pay the mortgage or associated bills and he will do anything to do that. He’s certainly impressed by her job title but I can see exactly what she’s doing, her priority is getting a nice easy ride getting moved in and the house exactly as she wants it before she officially moves in. She’s not in any rush to complete now because why would she be, she can move at her leisure.

I will update if and when there’s more progress, thankyou for everyone’s “good lucks” I’m certainly going to need it!

I think what you’ve said here is likely to be exactly right! He’s been very foolish in trying to appease a buyer to get a sale done ASAP without knowing anything about the buying and selling process, which was really stupid. I doubt if his solicitor knows what he’s agreed to because they certainly would have talked him out of doing that!

Like you say she has wanted an easy ride with moving. We wanted an easy ride with moving too last summer. We got all our light fittings sorted, did a bit of painting, moved our stuff over slowly before moving ourselves in so it was far less stressful and also meant we did not have the stress of a chain collapsing. In order to do that we bought a house and sold ours 1-2 months later, which meant we had an extortionate mortgage on the new house for that time, we’re paying two lots of bills. This cost us thousands of pounds to do. She’s trying to do the same at no cost to herself!!!

I hope you get the advice you need today!

ColourBlueColourPurple · 17/03/2025 09:28

Let the sale fall through. It doesn't matter if she's allegedly a judge; coincidentally some of the sneakiest most hard faced people I've met work in the legal profession. You really need independent legal advice OP.

daleylama · 19/03/2025 11:47

ColourBlueColourPurple · 17/03/2025 09:28

Let the sale fall through. It doesn't matter if she's allegedly a judge; coincidentally some of the sneakiest most hard faced people I've met work in the legal profession. You really need independent legal advice OP.

Hard agree. Especially rgds lawyers waving their qualifications in your face like cudgels.I hope you now have a lawyer as a shield.If you have to let it fall through do so. Just do not let her move in.

Needspaceforlego · 19/03/2025 13:30

@AlinaRawlings Any update on this, did you speak with your Lawyer?

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