What can I do that isn't on an individual level regarding climate change?

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I've done all I can on an individual level, I've joined a litter picking group and have a veg patch and made my small garden 'wild'...
But I feel I need to do more.
I have so much passion on the subject, always have even when it was called 'global warming' and ' the ozone layer ' and 'being a hippy' 😅

What else is there to do?
I don't mind spending time and money, I only work 25 hours a week so I have time to put into a project but I don't know what would be best to try and do?

I'm thinking maybe I could try to start a really zero waste business?
I always daydream about winning the lottery and buying loads of land and building a waste free city but I'm not going to win and what's the point in waiting?

I know this is a little bit of a ramble but I just want to be able to look my children and my grandchildren in the eye and assure them that I did all I could.
so does any one have any ideas? what can I do today or plan to do next week or next month that would make a change?
or just a bit of solidarity?

What do you make of the melting ice caps and the storms we've been having the last year or so? The hottest days on record and the highest wind speeds in our normally temperature UK climate? The flooding around the world?
Do you think these are natural phenomena and that the fear about climate change is made up? I only wish it was.

Okay, I'm certainly not going to challenge your memories. It was a false comparison anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Too many sources!
That';s akin to saying cite sources that the earth is round.
It's how they work; in colder weather they basically can't heat up sufficiently.
If you have a little look there are plenty of sites that explain this and how heat pumps work.
A quick bit of research and fact checking and you should be up to speed with it.

I think there is and always has been climate change.
I dispute that humans have contributed anything significant to what is a natural cycle for the planet ( climate wise, not all the other shit we're ruining the place with).

Why don’t you study - A levels of a degree? See where it takes you career wise

Ask why if Climate Change is going to kill us all

1. Why is Heathrow being expanded?
2. Why are they demolishing huge parts of the Amazon to build a road for those who will be attending a climate change conference?
3. Why do government ministers fly all over the world for, in most cases, nothing.
4. Why is land being built on, leading to poor drainage and flooding.
5. Why is there not massive investment in cheap or even free public transport.
6. Why do various "green" initiatives always cost ordinary people money

That will do for starters. After all, if we are all going to suffer dreadful things, why are things going or not going on?

Have a little ponder.

The answer will amaze you. Could it possibly be because tis mostly bollocks? Might there be another side to the coin?

I dunno but I think it might be.

If you are still unconvinced: demolish your house, burn all your possessions, live on grass, freeze in the winter and melt in the summer. Eat very little. Join Marjorie, Crispin and Arabella in hanging from bridges, destroying paintings and stopping traffic. If you really want to make an impact, do all this while living in China. Begin walking now.

I'm struggling to find highest wind speeds in Uk any more recent than 1986/ 1962 which are the highest wind speeds
For longer term this was interesting

Overall, DNV's Wind Index demonstrates that 2023 was approximately 1% less windy on average for the UK (coming in at 99.3%) and Ireland (coming in at 99.2%) than the 1996-2022 long-term reference

The ozone hole is a great example of when environmental awareness and legislation worked - a problem was seen (the ozone depletion), the cause was identified (CFC gases used as refridgerants), action taken (international agreement to phase CFCs out), nations have mostly stuck to it, and the ozone hole stabilised and is improving.

?? I think you posted on the wrong thread!😄

True, conspiracy theories like "scientists are lying and doing the bidding of the political elite" will still be thriving in 20-30 years.
Gotta laugh at a claim that people who trust science are gullible, while in the same post ranting about a fantasy conspiracy.

You do know that the Thames used to freeze so regularly that a fair was held on it.

You do know that there was a mini ice age in Tudor times.

You do know that the terrible summers and poor harvests contributed to the French Revolution.

You do know that if there wasn't climate change, we'd still be connected to Africa?

You do know that if there wasn't climate change, humans wouldn't even be here.

Think on and don't swallow everything you hear.

she didn't mention anything that sounded like a CS.
She was aying it's the little people being told to make changes whilst the wealthy just carry on being wasteful.

I do get heartily fed up of people shouting CS to perfectly valid questions and opinions

This post contains no logic. You're actually saying that if it were true, the powers that be would be doing a massive amount of work on it instead of just passing the buck?
You must have a great deal more faith in them than I do.

Because as a species we're stupid. We are more focused on short-term gains rather than having to take harder decisions for longer-term benefits. Politicians work on a 4-5 year cycle, they want to get re-elected so they do things that affect the population on those timescales. Climate is a longer term issue that requires investment and changing individual and national mindsets and might make them unpopular. I also don't think that it helps that politicians typically come from an economics background rather than science ones.

I don't think human-induced climate change is going to kill us all, but it will kill some people (mostly more vulnerable eg the elderly and those in poorer nations) but it will make people's lives harder.

What about Ireland a couple of months ago? Isle of Man? Huge damage done to buildings and people.

CS means conspiracy? If so, look again.

"there’ll be some other mass fear inflicted on us to keep us in line."

"Climate change and what the little people can do about it is Busy Work for us"

That right there is an allegation that it is a conspiracy.

What about community building for resilience and potential implementations of things like 'share sheds', community growing, compost sites etc. you'd bring people in who are perhaps less convinced by climate change but interested in the community aspect and could slowly educate them thus having a bigger impact for those open to it and those who aren't?

Sort of permaculture in community type of things. Lots of models to look at, also things like 'incredible edible' planting unused public spaces with edibles that the public can help themselves to, cuts down on packaging and import of basics like herbs.
Well done for trying to make a difference and be a good ancestor!

There is natural climate change on various timescales from a year or so to 100,000's of years. That is still happening. But there is also a warming that is caused by humans releasing greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide. Scientists from all around the globe have looked at this and the causes, many studies using different methods. I am a scientist, I have looked at the data, I have thought critically about it. I wish human climate change was not happening. But it is.

Nope. I suggested is as an option for the OP to consider - she might like to pursue study/qualifications even part time, which may lead to a career in environmental/climate issues.

this is really a point for my argument rather than against it.
1% of let's say a million tonnes of CO2 emissions is still 10,000 tonnes.
The UK is tiny If you compare land mass and population size with other places around the world.

Also the way our emissions are tracked is skewed. If we have loads of plastic tat coming on from China, well that goes towards china's emissions not ours.

All of the clothes made in Bangladesh in primark? We'll they don't count towards our emissions. Its not accurate to say we create 1% so we don't need to reduce it. Look at the road, in the shop, at the dump, in the rivers.

I make more rubbish in a week than a family in a less developed country does in a month. I know that, I see it when I take it out to my wheelie bin. and I'm concerned and spending time and money on reducing my waste. My neighbours have less children and 2 wheelie bins. I don't know what the answer is but pretending that the UK can't compete with China or America so we needn't try is definitely not the answer.

Firstly - excellent user name. I’d argue with your point on recycling though. It may well vary from one council are to another, but I’ve seen with my own eyes the recycling in my area being collected, sorted and then collected again by the company that reuses/re fabricates it. The idea that “there’s no point because we’re being lied to” can be quite damaging as it builds apathy and gives people the idea that they’re powerless.

Fair point. It does depend to a great deal on the municipality in question. It's not that there's no point, it's that doing that as your sole contribution to halting CC is not doing as much as most people think it is. Plus, where the supply exceeds ability or willingness to actually recycle instead of just passing it on, it forces people in the third world to take on a lot of our trash, which is vile. I hate the thought of that.
I was suspicious way back when the program began in my area, because there was no concurrent expansion to the municipal recycling plant and no other plants being built. It wasn't hard to do the math.

I got inspiration for my username from a friend who uses TuckFrump. 😄

I absolutely agree with you that recycling cannot be the be all and end all of people’s efforts, I suppose it has become ‘normalised’ and understood so remains the first stop.
Looking further up the waste hierarchy is much more useful and impactful. But reducing, reusing and repairing have some way to go before they become mainstream 😞

You could join a climate change cult and all live without any power or heat, only eat what you can grow or forage, all get voluntarily sterilised, even the kids, and agree that no one lives past 55.

But maybe you don't care about the planet that much and would rather see it destroyed?

So instead you could be the annoying person at work who bangs on about recycling every team when it makes no difference.

No you won't save the planet but you will feel good.

yes, there has always been bad weather conditions but overall the wind speeds aren't increasing which a pp was implying