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Supermarket staff wearing a keffiyeh

502 replies

Alpaccas · 07/03/2025 22:35

I saw a member of staff wearing a keffiyeh today in Sainsbury’s. Do you think it’s a bit too political for a member of staff to be wearing, whilst wearing their work uniform?

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Coolasfeck · 08/03/2025 07:08

There’s a major effort from some quarters to paint all Palestinians as subhuman terrorists, and to try and make everyone forget about them. This way it will make it easier to kill them all off with minimal resistance.

It won’t work.

EasternStandard · 08/03/2025 07:17

No strong view on someone wearing this but Sainsbury's staff don't really accessorise with any scarves, and the clothing policy is probably quite strict as I've only seen the standard uniform there.

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 08/03/2025 07:18

VioletVX · 07/03/2025 23:20

A keffiyeh is a national symbol, not a religious one. And when worn by people who are not members of that national group, it is a political symbol.

Oh. Not cultural appropriation then? Gosh, how confusing. How on earth is one supposed to discern the difference when the rules are so arbitrary?

MolkosTeenageAngst · 08/03/2025 07:28

Keffiyehs were a bit of a trend amongst some of the white middle class guys when I was at uni and that was almost 20 years ago. They’re not a new thing. They’re also worn by men across the Middle East, not in one specific country or area or for one specific political movement.

I see rainbow lanyards and pin badges worn by workers all the time though so even if it was being worn as a symbol it seems supermarkets don’t mind that.

Areolaborealis · 08/03/2025 07:31

ButchCassidysSundanceKid · 07/03/2025 23:52

It's not the "Palestinian national symbol".

"The keffiyeh or kufiyyeh (Arabic: كُوفِيَّة, romanized: kūfiyya, lit. 'coif'),[1] also known in Arabic as a hattah (حَطَّة, ḥaṭṭa), is a traditional headdress worn by men from parts of the Middle East. It is fashioned from a square scarf, and is usually made of cotton.[2] The keffiyeh is commonly found in arid regions, as it provides protection from sunburn, dust, and sand. The regional variations are called ghutrah and shemagh. A head cord, agal, is often used by Arabs to keep the ghutrah in place.[3]".

I never said it was religious, but it is associated with Islamic celebrations because Islam and Middle Eastern culture are closely intertwined. People are wearing them more frequently currently because it's Ramadan, in the same way that I wear a Christmas jumper pretty much every day in December. Which is also not a religious item, but when I wear it, people know it's because I'm celebrating Christmas - not once has anyone assumed it's because I'm making a "political statement" (not sure what that would be about - maybe Western nationalism or something).

The only reason people are assuming it's something sinister is because it's Muslims wearing it. There's absolutely no way you or the OP would be starting and AIBU on December complaining that Craig from Asda was wearing a Santa hat at work.

But if you worked in a supermarket in the middle east and wore a Christmas jumper it might be interpreted as a religious and/or political statement.

Deathraystare · 08/03/2025 07:37

I think there are more things going on to worry about! It isn't a new thing.

Deathraystare · 08/03/2025 07:38

When I was at school (sadly I bunked off on that day!) two women teachers got in a fight on the stairs, watched by pupils!

Ghosttofu99 · 08/03/2025 07:39

HermioneWeasley · 07/03/2025 22:46

It’s not part of the uniform and if it wasn’t intended as a political statement, it certainly has the potential to be read as one so it’s completely inappropriate and i would complain.

Why do people feel the need to be so openly hostile to other cultures at the moment? Are they feeling emboldened by the likes of Musk and his public Nazi salute? To me, many of the comments in this thread just come across as racism and it’s very sad.

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 08/03/2025 07:43

Areolaborealis · 08/03/2025 07:31

But if you worked in a supermarket in the middle east and wore a Christmas jumper it might be interpreted as a religious and/or political statement.

Hypothetically, it probably wouldn't. When I lived in the ME (not Saudi) you could buy Christmas decorations and Christmas trees, Christmas jumpers etc. with ease in places like BHS, M&S, IKEA, Carrefour etc. The goods were chosen carefully to make sure there was never any specific reference to Jesus, Christmas or Christianity and Christmas music was confined to pop songs and Jingle Bells type stuff rather than religious carols. The word 'holidays' was used rather than Christmas but certainly the locals didn't seem offended by it. It's unlikely there would be any Christians among the staff to start with though so the likelihood of them wearing a Christmas jumper is low. That's why I say hypothetically.

HermioneWeasley · 08/03/2025 07:52

Ghosttofu99 · 08/03/2025 07:39

Why do people feel the need to be so openly hostile to other cultures at the moment? Are they feeling emboldened by the likes of Musk and his public Nazi salute? To me, many of the comments in this thread just come across as racism and it’s very sad.

It’s interesting you see my view as hostile because I see wearing this as a symbol of hostility to Jews and people who support Israelis right to exist. It’s worn by people on hate marches calling for the eradication of Israel and genocide against the Jews. If the employee didn’t mean to signal that, then they need to be told how it can be interpreted and asked not to wear it. Which is perfectly straightforward as it’s not part of the uniform. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone else in any supermarket wearing a scarf or a flag with their uniform.

Whatsinanamehey · 08/03/2025 07:54

Some people are honestly so petty, it wouldn't bother me in the least. BTW they could be wearing scarves worn in most Arab countries that at first glance may look similar to a keffiyah but is not. Either way don't you have more important things to worry about?

Whatsinanamehey · 08/03/2025 07:55

iloveeverykindofcat · 08/03/2025 05:50

This is racist, bad faith posting.
Watch it not get deleted though in the name of 'educating people'.

"Clearly not cultural".

Keffiyeh have been worn throughout the ME for centuries. Do you know what every ME person looks like? Did you know that blonde, blue-eyed Arabs exist?

ITS RAMADAN.

Thank you.

Whatsinanamehey · 08/03/2025 07:56

SilverDoe · 08/03/2025 00:14

This poster knows it was a political choice and not a cultural one because the whole scenario is completely made up BS posted on MN to spark convo's like this.

It happens literally all the time on here.

I rather suspect this may be true. Could @MNHQ please check behind the scenes? As we have had too many fake threads recently.

Whatsinanamehey · 08/03/2025 07:57

The OP hasn't come back either.

Cosyblankets · 08/03/2025 07:57

Did it stop them doing their job? Why are you bothered?

PenneyFouryourthoughts · 08/03/2025 07:58

Are we picking on people for what they choose to wear again? Really?

Animatic · 08/03/2025 07:58

Is this your biggest problem in life? Would you be here asking questions if they had a poppy pin on or smth?

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 08/03/2025 07:59

Alpaccas · 07/03/2025 22:39

It was clearly not cultural. It was political in this case.

Do you know them personally? If not then you don't know that it was 'clearly political '.

Spirallingdownwards · 08/03/2025 08:02

PollyHutchen · 07/03/2025 23:26

This is a scary time to be Jewish. I think businesses should discourage their employees from wearing clothing that is politically partisan, though there should be accommodations for items that are part of people's religious observance eg the hijab.

or for Muslims during Ramadan - which it is - and therefore fits your personal criteria.

AuntAgathaGregson · 08/03/2025 08:03

Would you object to a supermarket worker wearing a turban or a kippah?

Whatsinanamehey · 08/03/2025 08:05

BaMamma · 07/03/2025 22:38

I've been seeing more young women wearing keffiyeh performatively. Including a couple at an event about Israeli history, put it on very ostentatiously after the event had begun.

Which I'm very sure did happen. You always happen to witness/take part in events/ have everyday conversations about Israel/Palestine which are almost always negative.

Jacquettes · 08/03/2025 08:05

Areolaborealis · 08/03/2025 07:31

But if you worked in a supermarket in the middle east and wore a Christmas jumper it might be interpreted as a religious and/or political statement.

It might be but what does that have to do with what we do in our own country?

AngelinaFibres · 08/03/2025 08:05

HermioneWeasley · 07/03/2025 22:46

It’s not part of the uniform and if it wasn’t intended as a political statement, it certainly has the potential to be read as one so it’s completely inappropriate and i would complain.

That's probably the exact reaction the wearer wants. In reality they stack shelves in a supermarket. Doing it whilst having something on their head is hardly going to achieve anything.

Chuchoter · 08/03/2025 08:06

I'd speak to the manager and then I would boycott the store.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 08/03/2025 08:06

Alpaccas · 07/03/2025 22:39

It was clearly not cultural. It was political in this case.

And you know this hie exactly?

Other than being massively judgemental, ride and frankly racist, why the hell does it matter what they are wearing?

If they did the job they were paid for and were polite then wtf does it matter what sort of scarf they wear.