To want to understand why they are re-releasing Beavers?

[LemaLemons]

https://beavertrust.org/historic-first-official-wild-beaver-release-in-england/#:~:text=News%20%26%20blogs-,Historic%20first%20official%20wild%20beaver%20release%20marks,for%20nature's%20recovery%20in%20England&text=In%20a%20landmark%20event%20for,the%20wild%20in%20Purbeck%2C%20Dorset.

beavers being rereleased in the uk - why? They are territorial animals and don’t really have a place in our carefully balanced ecosystem.

You could argue beavers were a part of a well balanced eco system we started ruining in about the 1500s when we killed them all. Anyway, interesting and well
balanced article in The Independent from 2022:

www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/drought-heatwave-devon-beavers-photos-b2149993.html

No it was about using their fur. Plus we didn't realise what we were doing! The mindset was about controlling nature. But we need to work WITH nature, not against it.

I think we shouldn’t be trying to solve problems once created we should be stopping them at the root cause. Is it possible that what’s happening here is the water is being rerouted for a very specific reason? And that there is more to the reintroduction of the beaver population than meets the eye? Like I said there was a reason these beavers were culled to begin with.

Is it fuck.

As long as beavers don’t develop the ability to drive heavy machinery and set up a state within a state I think the risk of them annexing Surrey is pretty low.

You cannot work with a force that can’t be controlled. Beavers are not subject to negotiation and cannot be sit down and spoken to. How do you propose we work with the beavers when they are just going to willy-nilly make dams wherever they see fit no matter the consequences??

As a Scout leader, headlines like Beavers released into wild absolutely terrify me.

I'm sure the little furry creatures are a lot less terrifying than the human versions in their turquoise jumpers.

We stand to gain more by having beavers in the landscape than not. Benefits for water quality, flooding, wildlife. Yes there might be inconvenience annoyance or some problems caused on an individual case basis. But the pros still hugely outweigh the cons.

Name a single pro of allowing beavers into the wild. I will wait. But as I’ve said it’s all part of something different anyway so it doesn’t matter if they’ve managed to fool you!

If beavers aren’t friends, why are they friend shaped?

Beavers are not subject to negotiation and cannot be sit down and spoken to.

How do you know this is correct?

The gov link posted up thread shows they reduce flooding.

A generation whose childhoods were spent cowering in fear, who never saw light of day, their hopes and dreams and future stolen... stolen by the beavers.

Prevention of flooding by slowing the rate water travels downstream.

I named 3. Flood prevention by creating wetlands where water soaks in. Improving water quality by creating natural habitats that filter water. And creating habitats for other species.

Oh this is going to be such a joyous thread!

We live on a flood plain and our village and house were flooded recently. Frankly, I think having a beaver in charge of our local flood defences is a cracking idea. I have no doubt they'd be more effective than the current cretins in charge.

This thread is brilliant. The beavers will not be building the Hoover dam in a day(although the idea of the average person going out and dam busting is interesting).

Hahaha - that’s absolutely hilarious. Thanks for the laugh 😂

Hmmm water companies are doing a pretty poor ( and expensive) job. I bet the Beaver Collective would be considerably better value for money.

Why are you treating the beavers as if they would be willing appointments to a government that hunted them to the point of extinction and then reintroduced them? Are you trying to say this is like WW2 where the USA nuked the Japanese and then spent decades after making them their little minions? I don’t think it’s like that at all and I think it’s a stupid analogy because why would the beavers even want to help? And why is that the common opinion? Does nobody think that actually beavers just won’t care at all about anything like that and just make them wherever it is they want?

They who? I have a degree, MSc and 16yrs experience in environmental management. So yeah I'm pretty well fooled. If you don't agree read up on some articles. There are loads out there. Unfortunately many people in this country have quite out of date understanding of water management etc that would have us still dredging the rivers instead of making space for water and nature. I think it should be part of mainstream education.

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Do you have any more information on what involvement the water companies might have with the beaver reintroduction? As I can’t find any information on that

@LemaLemons are you imagining a beaver version of Chicken Run? “I’m telling you, they’re organised” 😂

I think you’re involved in this whole thing and actually were part of the initial plan to put beavers back into the wild. And then they’ve sent you to identify anything that disagrees with your world view and to spread your propaganda to make people think it is correct that beavers are reintroduced.

Oh no, do you think they're secretly planning to Annsluice parts of the West Country?