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Am I in the wrong here? Trying to put children first!

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Vespa3142 · 07/03/2025 09:22

A bit of background… Partner and I have been together 6/7 years, but known each other for 14. After the first year he moved to my home town (around an hour from his) and we bought our first house. Since then we have had 3DC.

Partner has a very social job and works late (in a social setting) usually at least once per week, as well as at least a couple of nights away overnight stays per month, leaving me with the children, the youngest 3MO. We have no external childcare support from family much to help out either. Partner also has social hobbies, one meaning he travels to another country on average once per month, although in January this year when DD was 1 MO he went away three times. In his defence, he doesn’t have many friends locally and this is his way of socialising with friends, mine whom I see more often and do things with the children etc.

This week DS, (4YO) has been unwell. Partner told me he was going out socially last night, I asked him not to as he is away majority of next week and was also away one night last week (with friends). He said he’d come home after work as usual. At 5pm he tells me no he isn’t coming home he is going out, he’d been drinking since lunch time and got tunnel vision, obviously forgetting he’d said he’d come home, I told him DS is getting worse and poorly.

By 6pm DS temperature has risen to 41.3 and I call 111 to which I’m told to take him to hospital within two hours. I call upon my mum who came to watch the baby so I could take him. Partners phone straight to VM, no messages delivering at all so he has no signal in the pub. I keep him updated with messages that remain undelivered. At this point I’m really quite angry.

Eventually at 9pm he calls, clearly incredibly drunk and not making much sense. We all get home at a similar time, at which point we argue and he is effing and blinding saying it’s the end of the relationship, I’m always on a witch hunt etc etc.

My issue is that ultimately he is wasn’t there when we needed him and I feel like we are always second best to his own plans. He has no empathy or understand how it feels to be relied upon alone by the children. His issue is that he doesn’t get to do enough and feels like I always have a problem with his plans. This whole situation has been somehow made out that I am now in the wrong for being mad at him - every time something happens he manipulates the situation and turns it into my fault.

Am I being totally unreasonable here? I don’t want to potentially lose this relationship and man who is actually a great father if I’m the one in the wrong!

OP posts:
MammaTo · 07/03/2025 10:09

Your definition of being a good dad is way off. Would you like for your children to behave like him when they’re older? Is he modelling behaviour you want to see in your children’s future? It’s a breeze being a happy family of a weekend, but when it’s coming down to the nitty gritty he seems a bit AWOL.

macaroniandcheeze · 07/03/2025 10:09

“Great father” doesn’t mean has fun with the kids when he’s around. That’s a fun uncle.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 07/03/2025 10:11

Vespa3142 · 07/03/2025 09:22

A bit of background… Partner and I have been together 6/7 years, but known each other for 14. After the first year he moved to my home town (around an hour from his) and we bought our first house. Since then we have had 3DC.

Partner has a very social job and works late (in a social setting) usually at least once per week, as well as at least a couple of nights away overnight stays per month, leaving me with the children, the youngest 3MO. We have no external childcare support from family much to help out either. Partner also has social hobbies, one meaning he travels to another country on average once per month, although in January this year when DD was 1 MO he went away three times. In his defence, he doesn’t have many friends locally and this is his way of socialising with friends, mine whom I see more often and do things with the children etc.

This week DS, (4YO) has been unwell. Partner told me he was going out socially last night, I asked him not to as he is away majority of next week and was also away one night last week (with friends). He said he’d come home after work as usual. At 5pm he tells me no he isn’t coming home he is going out, he’d been drinking since lunch time and got tunnel vision, obviously forgetting he’d said he’d come home, I told him DS is getting worse and poorly.

By 6pm DS temperature has risen to 41.3 and I call 111 to which I’m told to take him to hospital within two hours. I call upon my mum who came to watch the baby so I could take him. Partners phone straight to VM, no messages delivering at all so he has no signal in the pub. I keep him updated with messages that remain undelivered. At this point I’m really quite angry.

Eventually at 9pm he calls, clearly incredibly drunk and not making much sense. We all get home at a similar time, at which point we argue and he is effing and blinding saying it’s the end of the relationship, I’m always on a witch hunt etc etc.

My issue is that ultimately he is wasn’t there when we needed him and I feel like we are always second best to his own plans. He has no empathy or understand how it feels to be relied upon alone by the children. His issue is that he doesn’t get to do enough and feels like I always have a problem with his plans. This whole situation has been somehow made out that I am now in the wrong for being mad at him - every time something happens he manipulates the situation and turns it into my fault.

Am I being totally unreasonable here? I don’t want to potentially lose this relationship and man who is actually a great father if I’m the one in the wrong!

Sorry didn’t mean to quote OP but can’t remove it!

So stripping out the facts of when he is away from the family:

  • once per week with work
  • a couple of nights away overnight stays per month
  • he travels to another country on average once per month
  • in January this year when DD was 1 MO he went away three times

What the fuck?! Any sane human realises this is all too much when you have 3 children under 6. Something from his schedule needs to go while you have 3 little kids.

You should make time for yourself without the kids though - both for your mental health and it might make him realise.

The fact he ignored your child being ill and that you “asked him not to as he is away majority of next week and was also away one night last week (with friends)” is awful. I couldn’t have just swept that under the rug. If his friends and colleagues are so precious he should go live with them. In fact when he said it was over, you should have said fine, off you fuck then.

What did your mum say?? I think mine would have decked him TBH.

Could your mum watch the kids while you and him go out for a make or break chat? I think you need that it all out - something needs to give in this short period of your lives while you have under 5s. Either it’s some of the trips away, some of the work “events” (I’m pretty sure they are not all mandatory!) Or you can split up and he has the kids 50/50. His call.

BusyMum47 · 07/03/2025 10:14

@Vespa3142

You say he's a great father but being a great father is about way more than playing with your kids on a Saturday morning - its about being in the trenches with your partner every single moment & unquestionably being there when you're needed - it's holding vomit bowls at 3am, sitting up all night to monitor a soaring temperature & going to the bloody hospital when your kid is very ill & your partner needs you!
He's currently being a dad but only on HIS terms! Why does he just get to do whatever he likes, when he likes?? He has 3 tiny humans at home - why is it all on you??

He's a selfish prick.

toomuchfaff · 07/03/2025 10:14

Not sure what you'd classify as a bad father...

shit your bar is not just low it's buried underground.

Feelinadequate23 · 07/03/2025 10:15

Sorry OP, no help to you, but for younger women reading who don’t have kids yet - DON’T have kids with a guy you’re not married to unless you’re a high earner yourself!!

OP is very vulnerable as the father of her kids is totally shit and unreliable but as they aren’t married she could well be left with nothing if they split. Just don’t do it, ladies!!!

LurcherMumma · 07/03/2025 10:17

My god how can you even question if YABU?
If my DH was out getting drunk whilst his child was IN HOSPITAL he'd be dying of shame and begging forgiveness.
It's a real nasty thing to try and turn it on you.

MightAsWellBeGretel · 07/03/2025 10:21

To be fair (in response to some other PPs NOT the OP) he didn't know the child was ill enough to go to the hospital when he went out drinking and getting sloshed with work hardly means he has a drink problem.

However, he is a selfish shitbag. 'Forgetting' that he'd said he'd come home is shitty. He didn't 'forget', he said whatever would placate OP and just went and did whatever he wanted to. His general behavior smacks of the kind of man who wants the wife and kids but doesn't want his life to change.

godmum56 · 07/03/2025 10:22

Oh here we are......"he's a great Dad but......."

Hoppinggreen · 07/03/2025 10:23

How is he a great father exactly?
Usually when women say that its based on very low standards such as he occasionally plays with his children or similar

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 07/03/2025 10:24

He does his fair share around the house, with the baby and DS, drop offs, share of some night feeds, playing, cooking etc

Well, he doesn't, does he. Because he's not fucking there! He's buggered off on a jolly multiple times a month and left you literally holding the baby.

However - there's no point arguing with a drunk. Absolutely futile, you'll never get any sense or get through to them. Obviously you were justifiably furious when he finally rocked up, but that conversation was never going to go well.

But. If he's got the same attitude when he's sober, and it sounds like he does, then that would be a deal breaker for me. If he can't see that going out when you told him you needed him, and then getting so drunk he was oblivious to his child being in hospital, is a massive 'him' problem, then there's no hope.

Frankly he sounds like an alcoholic. I suspect he's drinking at work, every shift, and has quite a serious problem.

HereintheloveofChristIstand · 07/03/2025 10:24

Vespa3142 · 07/03/2025 10:05

Maternity allowance payments - the bare minimum.

And when you are back is your employment stable and can you afford to support your family alone? As this relationship doesn’t seem to have a future.

ginasevern · 07/03/2025 10:27

"We all get home at a similar time, at which point we argue and he is effing and blinding saying it’s the end of the relationship,"

At which point I would have agreed with him.

Jmaho · 07/03/2025 10:27

As is common on these types of posts, your opening post provides factual information which suggests your partner is a selfish dickhead.
Everyone replies saying this. You respond saying actually he's a great father etc I've made him sound much worse.
So what's the actual point of the post?

Purplecatshopaholic · 07/03/2025 10:30

BMW6 · 07/03/2025 09:36

He's a selfish cunt and a lousy father. He also has a drink problem.

The question really is - why are you putting up with it?

This. Op, raise your bar, this man is utterly selfish. You are not married either? And not working? Please get advice, you are financially vulnerable here.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 07/03/2025 10:33

Vespa3142 · 07/03/2025 09:42

He is brilliant with the kids at home, we spend majority of weekends together as a family. The kids love him and always have fun. He does his fair share around the house, with the baby and DS, drop offs, share of some night feeds, playing, cooking etc.

He's not a good father, good father's dont behave the way he has and you will wake up one day and realise the things you were clinging to, to justify staying through everything he puts you through were never real. Most of us get their sooner or later, when you do you regret the time lost trying to fix something that was unfixable, trying to recreate something that was never real. But everyone has to get there in their own way. I hope the journey doesn't harm you too much.

LazyArsedMagician · 07/03/2025 10:38

Well, adults are allowed to go out and enjoy themselves, and if their child falls ill and they're not available then well, that happens sometimes. Bad luck.

But this isn't what is happening here. He's leaving you to deal with an already ill child, plus two others one of whom is a newborn. Regardless of illness, he's doing this ALL THE TIME. He sounds like he's not even your partner, he's just the dad who drops in to be the Fun Parent every so often.

He's not willing to say no to social time to be there for his family. He sounds awful.

BasicBrumble · 07/03/2025 10:41

Unless he wakes up with a fresh head and a shedload of apologies for not being there when you needed him, he's a loser and not going to get any better.

Imbusytodaysorry · 07/03/2025 10:48

@Vespa3142 i voted you are being unreasonable for calling him a great father . What a joke !!!

why would you stay with the useless selfish man. ???

Motherofdragons24 · 07/03/2025 10:49

Of course YANBU. He sounds like a prince! Obviously it’s important to have a life outside of your home and having hobbies is fine but only to a point. My opinion is that when the children are young it’s really not the time in your life to have these hobbies that take up huge amounts of time which should be spent with your family. Kids are only little for so long and in the grand scheme of life which is hopefully 80+ years I don’t think sacrificing 8-10 years of hobbies is really a big ask. There will be plenty of time for this when the kids are a bit older. The time is not now!

Imbusytodaysorry · 07/03/2025 10:50

Vespa3142 · 07/03/2025 10:05

Maternity allowance payments - the bare minimum.

Access to “his “ family money or joint account???
Jointly own two houses fantastic. .one each .

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 07/03/2025 10:50

He's not a great father and this is not a great relationship.

Codlingmoths · 07/03/2025 10:53

Vespa3142 · 07/03/2025 09:42

He is brilliant with the kids at home, we spend majority of weekends together as a family. The kids love him and always have fun. He does his fair share around the house, with the baby and DS, drop offs, share of some night feeds, playing, cooking etc.

He cannot have done this for the FIRST MONTH of your baby’s life if he went away three times. I know my marriage would never ever recover from that incredible self-centredness alone. I beg of you to be more selfish, no one else in your marriage is looking after either you or your sick child. You need to focus on those as the only adult who is there for him. You have nothing left for him and he doesn’t deserve it. Imagine if you behaved like him- imagine your neglected children.

Spineverdaythisweek · 07/03/2025 10:57

Is he rich? Did you marry him and have children with him because he earns well? Can’t think what could have tempted you other than wealth. He is a throwback and a sad excuse for a husband and father. Not someone I would have chose to have children with no matter how wealthy!

Simplelobsterhat · 07/03/2025 10:58

Have I understood correctly that he averages a couple of nights away a month for work Plus going ABROAD for his hobby on average every month. Or is it once a month on average he is away taking in both things ? Either way That's a really high amount of time away for someone with young kids. Most parents would consider themselves fortunate if they were able to go abroad for a hobby once a year, never mind once a month. And I think it's actively cruel to your family to do so in month one of a baby's life when there are are older siblings too. That's an 'all hand on deck' times surely.

The nights out I am less sure about as you mention both work and social. Work may be unavoidable, and of course some socialising is good. But if he was that drunk I assumed this one wasn't work.

Coming home that drunk when you have young kids in the house is never right, and when you know in advance one of them is ill, again it's totally unacceptable. It would be different if this was a sudden illness and he hadn't seen his phone, these things happen (albeit not to me or i expect most mums, as if I'm away from my kids I couldn't not check my phone for more than a couple of hours in case there was a problem). But he knew one of them was ill and he didn't care enough to stay reasonably sober or keep an eye on his phone. Probably because he knew you didn't want him to go out so he was avoiding you.

He doesn't get to be the wronged party here.