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Angela Rayner’s glottal stops are infuriating

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Ilovecleaning · 04/03/2025 08:50

AIBU to be so irritated by the deputy PM’s lazy speech? I was listening to her being interviewed this morning and I was distracted by her Bri-ish/righ-/wai-ed. I googled her and apparently when asking a question about the lockdown parties she said ‘Was you there or not?’
Why does it anger me so much? It is not her accent. I am northern but I don’t drop my t’s and I know when to use was and were.
Her lazy speech distracts from the content. I have my theories but I would love to hear other people’s opinions.

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trivialMorning · 04/03/2025 09:48

I think she's chosen to keep her accent and even emphasise it as some kind of solidarity with The Workers.

I think it's this - playing it up and she not only MP to do it.

The bad grammer though - my Mum despite us being working class what hot on proper grammer in speaking- my DGP as well. My IL are the same and they have a different dialect more nothern and bad grammar was still corrected.

It comes accross to me as overplayed and may well be why so many actual working class people we know don't rate her as high as MN - it feels less authetic as they know people from her background or are from it and it feels like it playing up to sterotypes.

She not daff though so must be helping her and does I suppose highlight her different background.

CurlewKate · 04/03/2025 09:49

@Ilovecleaning "I definitely don’t think only RP speakers deserve to be listened to. I’d have to be an idiot to think that."

If the cap fits......

BruhWhy · 04/03/2025 09:49

MPs are supposed to be regular people who represent their constituents. That's what she is, and was before becoming deputy PM.

Why should she change the way she speaks to fit in with the Westminster lovelies? Why would you want her to?

Smokesandeats · 04/03/2025 09:50

I think it’s a hugely positive thing to hear regional accents and different ways of speaking in the House of Commons. I’m not a fan of Angela Rayner’s politics, but I have a lot of respect towards her for becoming deputy PM despite her background.

Ilovecleaning · 04/03/2025 09:50

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/03/2025 09:38

@Ilovecleaning not even english!! it is meant to be "WERE you there or not?" That really annoys me to hear people speak like that. I think I need to go to pedants' corner!! 😂

Edited

lol 😂 Me, too. In fact, I think I think I sometimes belong in the Insufferable Boring Pedants’ Corner.
Incorrect details can give the wrong impression and can so easily be rectified.
I remember looking at the goods and services offered by a couple starting up a new small business. It was a stationery business offering all the usual stuff: wedding invitations, Save the Day, party invitations etc. They had printed STATIONARY everywhere: on their posters, business cards, everywhere… 😲

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nadine90 · 04/03/2025 09:50

Doesn’t bother me in the slightest, that’s how many people talk in Manchester and surrounding areas, myself included. It has no bearing on intelligence. As someone who has been a young single parent, lived with poverty and worked hard in low paid jobs, I am glad to finally have someone in the cabinet who represents people like me. It’s bloody sad that how she speaks is what people focus on about her.
The way politicians don’t answer questions is what infuriates me. I don’t care if you drop your T’s, just answer the flipping questions asked of you!

Ilovecleaning · 04/03/2025 09:50

kittensinthekitchen · 04/03/2025 09:29

Another waiting to hear your 'theories'

I’ve already done it.

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Williamclimbseverest · 04/03/2025 09:51

Williamclimbseverest · 04/03/2025 09:47

Some also hate her because she was a young mum and did well for herself. It upsets their theory that you're doomed to failure if you reproduce before the age of 30 😉

Also I don't think her accent sounds shocking enough for there to be this many people moaning about it and I say that as a southerner I just don't hear the issue? What interview was this I can't find it anywhere

senua · 04/03/2025 09:51

I think she's chosen to keep her accent and even emphasise it as some kind of solidarity with The Workers.
I think it's this - playing it up and she not only MP to do it.

She's just John Prescott v2.0.

ThighsYouCantControl · 04/03/2025 09:51

Her speech doesn’t annoy me personally, it’s great that politics has people from different walks of life with different ways of speaking as well as thinking. That said, the way Jacob Rees Mogg talks pissed me off almost as much as what he actually says. It’s so put on. We get it, you’re rich and posh but his accent seemed so put on.

Ilovecleaning · 04/03/2025 09:52

verycloakanddaggers · 04/03/2025 09:34

I think if you can't understand her meaning, it suggests you struggle with comprehension.

The was/were thing is completely unremarkable.

“struggle with comprehension” 🤣. Love it.

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Coffeeishot · 04/03/2025 09:53

Williamclimbseverest · 04/03/2025 09:47

Some also hate her because she was a young mum and did well for herself. It upsets their theory that you're doomed to failure if you reproduce before the age of 30 😉

Oh yes teen mum and isn't she also a grandma ? How dare she do well for her self

Ilovecleaning · 04/03/2025 09:54

CurlewKate · 04/03/2025 09:49

@Ilovecleaning "I definitely don’t think only RP speakers deserve to be listened to. I’d have to be an idiot to think that."

If the cap fits......

🙄

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Sertadopt · 04/03/2025 09:55

Glottal stops are actually physiologically harder work to produce than the sounds they are standing in for.

Coffeeishot · 04/03/2025 09:55

Williamclimbseverest · 04/03/2025 09:51

Also I don't think her accent sounds shocking enough for there to be this many people moaning about it and I say that as a southerner I just don't hear the issue? What interview was this I can't find it anywhere

It was on Good morning Britain, it might be on their social media.

hairbearbunches · 04/03/2025 09:55

OP, you are not being unreasonable. I'm from the North and it pisses me off to the point of distraction. There is no need for her to speak like this. It is lazy and frankly makes her look thick. She can still have a northern accent without resorting to the way she speaks. If we had someone in high office who had an estuary accent, people would be up in arms.

PrimitivePerson · 04/03/2025 09:57

There's a reason she gets so much hostility from the Tories - she's a proper working class woman who grew up in a dysfunctional home, was a teenage single mother, and has got where she has through hard graft. She's the sort of person they think should know their place and stay out of the public eye.

I don't give a shit about her accent, she's one of the most powerful people in the country and potentially a future PM. I think she's fantastic and I hope she goes on to bigger and better things.

Ilovecleaning · 04/03/2025 09:57

hairbearbunches · 04/03/2025 09:55

OP, you are not being unreasonable. I'm from the North and it pisses me off to the point of distraction. There is no need for her to speak like this. It is lazy and frankly makes her look thick. She can still have a northern accent without resorting to the way she speaks. If we had someone in high office who had an estuary accent, people would be up in arms.

Thank you. I have no issue at all with her accent but many posters on here think that I do. 🤷‍♀️

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hairbearbunches · 04/03/2025 09:58

Ilovecleaning · 04/03/2025 09:57

Thank you. I have no issue at all with her accent but many posters on here think that I do. 🤷‍♀️

A lot of them are assuming that it's just how Northerners speak. It's not!

PorkHollywood · 04/03/2025 10:00

hairbearbunches · 04/03/2025 09:58

A lot of them are assuming that it's just how Northerners speak. It's not!

Many Northerners do.

wherearemypastnames · 04/03/2025 10:00

The glottal stop is a key feature of many UK accents . Yes it is part of the accent.

If you associate it with lower intelligence it speaks a lot about your intelligence and judgemental attitudes

What makes you the arbitrator of the correct way to speak ?

ExIssues · 04/03/2025 10:01

Ilovecleaning · 04/03/2025 09:28

I think she would be labelled fake if she changed her accent; her message might be ‘take me as you find me, warts and all.’ She could be saying she is genuine and won’t start sounding her t’s to please fuss pots. Maybe I am BU but why not get the details right, like knowing the difference between was/were?

She's from Stockport, she's my age, we were at school in the same area at the same time. The way she speaks is completely normal for the area.
Just as the way Jacob Rees mogg speaks is normal for where he's from. Why is no one telling him to alter his accent? Because he's rich and rich people are automatically right, that's why

JudgeJ · 04/03/2025 10:02

BallerinaRadio · 04/03/2025 08:52

What's your theory?

I don't think she sounds be changing how she speaks, that's just something natural. If she put a 'posh' voice she'd be crucified for being fake.

Judge her on actions not how she speaks

Exactly! Her accent is the least that's wrong with her.

EntropyCentral · 04/03/2025 10:03

It's actually quite hard to maintain a strong accent from the north if you move south or work with people who don't the same strong accent

The secret is regular visits to the mother city to top it up and keep your hand in.

ExpressCheckout · 04/03/2025 10:03

Thing is, in the North, many of us are fed up of being treated like second class citizens by people and institutions in the South. We are two nations: London and the South East, and everywhere else.

I'd love for us to continue being a United Kingdom. But, if Scotland ever gains independence, I'd like them to take us in the North with them. Oh, and we'll take our natural resources with us, too.

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