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Romanian dog rescue

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Preciousmemory · 22/02/2025 17:30

I am in an awful situation that I can find no solution to. Please if any one could give me some advice.
i have rescued a Romanian dog which has turned out so badly.
He arrived 10 days ago and has serious problems I am not able to deal with so am asking if anyone can offer me advice.
The rescue have a policy that I must give him back to be rehomed but are not able to find anyone although it is a short time they are describing him on the advert as a dog that loves humans and children and dogs. A huge part of this is not right I have not tested him with a child but as for people he definitely does not like them , only me.
He attacks my husband in the morning, in the evening when he returns home from work and then randomly at any other time. The attacks are getting progressively worse. But yesterday he met my 80 year old tiny dad for the first time which I had also for the first time put a muzzle on him after 7 days of training with it.
The attack was so ferocious on my dad that he was foaming at the mouth leaping as high as his shoulders to grab him but because he was muzzled there was no damage. my dad immediately left. I despair to think what may have happened otherwise. My daughter turned up shortly after the same thing happened. I was thinking he maybe afraid of men but it seems not.
I have constantly tried to work with the Romanian Rescue which could take months for them to find a suitable home, the only option I have from them is to stick this traumatised dog into a kennel which will cause further damage to him, but I am not able to keep him in my home with this level of aggression.
Dog rescues are full up. I have contacted a few that specifically deal with dog aggression. I do not see how this poor dog can just be homed in a normal family environment as this will happen again. He is a large growing powerful dog that could cause serious damage to a person.
Thank you for reading , this is such an anxious problem that I see no solution to.
I am grateful for any advice possible .

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ForestFox44 · 22/02/2025 21:01

Preciousmemory · 22/02/2025 19:39

I feel so sad for him to he doesn’t appear petrified in anyway, full of confidence in so many ways but with a random switch for aggression. Some attacks seem for a reason that someone has entered the house. But then for example my husband was sitting quietly reading and he leapt up behind the settee and bit him twice in the head. There doesn’t seem to be a pattern really . I did call the police more for advice on a contract they said it isn’t a police matter unless he was to seriously injure a person but that the contract means nothing with what has happened. I have mentioned to rescue about being homes with children and has he been tested as it says in advert he is ok with them but I have no idea how they have tested this if he was living in a pound

It really is a sad situation he's probably very confused and conflicted. Obviously has an issue with men and fight or flight kicks in. I'm really sorry you are dealing with this it must be incredibly stressful

Keepingthingsinteresting · 22/02/2025 21:01

MumChp · 22/02/2025 18:39

I would put it to sleep.
It's a lesson learnt.

The dog is clearly traumatised and not safe, but calling them ‘it’ shows you are without empathy and your words on this topic are not to be given weight.

Im so sorry this is happening @Preciousmemory , it must be breaking your heart. If the dog trusts and is comfortable with you then being pts in a place they feel safe with a person they trust stroking them is not the worst thing that could happen.

oakleaffy · 22/02/2025 21:02

SnoozingFox · 22/02/2025 20:55

@Honeyroar if you're bothered about Romanian street dogs then i'm sure there are Romanian charities which neuter or rehome or whatever. Donate to them.

Importing these feral animals into the UK expecting them to be marvellous family pets is just ridiculous. Should be completely illegal.

Our vets were actually glad when DEFRA put a ban on them coming in due to falsified paperwork putting U.K. dog populations and other animals and people at risk from
Rabies and Brucellosis
A Romanian bitch came over and had brucellosis and the foster home had to have their own pet dog put down as it’s a notifiable disease.

Many vets are anti the importation of foreign dogs because of the disease and parasite risk-

Tongue Worm and heart worm and other parasites are Trojaning in on these strays.

UndermyShoeJoe · 22/02/2025 21:04

Preciousmemory · 22/02/2025 20:14

£490 adoption fee and donation for Neutering £100 vet test £120 in the beginning I offered to pay the next adoption fee if the right person came along but that was before I realised the extent of the aggression and as from last night had decided he should not be put into adoption or foster without being properly assessed

That’s crazy you could of got a mutt puppy
from no doubt a byb but much better than this dog for that money. You’ve been robbed by a group of people who are trying to rob the next person with this aggressive dog.

minsmum · 22/02/2025 21:05

They have had one a young female who is scared of everyone and everything so the woman who runs the rescue has kept her in her home and they will not ever try to rehome her. My dog the mother was shot while pregnant, they get culled, some kind soul took her to the rescue centre and they managed to save the puppies. They were hand reared at the centre, so although technically a street dog he has never lived on the streets of known anything but kindness from humans

carly2803 · 22/02/2025 21:08

I have never understood why people insist on getting unknown dogs from abroad when there are so many here in little rescues needing homes

ANyhow, put the dog to sleep - aggression like that is not worth the risk to anyone

once a biter, never trusted

GoldPoster · 22/02/2025 21:14

You need to have the dog PTS, it’s a dangerous dog

carly2803 · 22/02/2025 21:16

Preciousmemory · 22/02/2025 20:18

I will speak to the chap that was recommended re dog law and also to my vet as he is the best vet I have ever used and would travel 200 miles to see him if I had to. He has taken the greatest care of our dogs and never once failed them. I will do this Monday because I trust his advice

just to add to this OP - excellent plan

if you can put the dog to sleep using your trusted vet, can you white lie if you have to and tell them he had an accident and advise was euthanasia from the vet?
i dont like lying but thinking of this rediculous contract!?
your vet may even say the dog is out of control/dangerous - who knows but im very sorry you have been taken for a ride with this dog

thenightsky · 22/02/2025 21:18

oakleaffy · 22/02/2025 21:02

Our vets were actually glad when DEFRA put a ban on them coming in due to falsified paperwork putting U.K. dog populations and other animals and people at risk from
Rabies and Brucellosis
A Romanian bitch came over and had brucellosis and the foster home had to have their own pet dog put down as it’s a notifiable disease.

Many vets are anti the importation of foreign dogs because of the disease and parasite risk-

Tongue Worm and heart worm and other parasites are Trojaning in on these strays.

That is really shocking. Awful. Imagine taking on an imported dog and ending up having to have the dogs you already own and love put to sleep because of a disease that should have been screen out.

Honeyroar · 22/02/2025 21:18

SnoozingFox · 22/02/2025 20:55

@Honeyroar if you're bothered about Romanian street dogs then i'm sure there are Romanian charities which neuter or rehome or whatever. Donate to them.

Importing these feral animals into the UK expecting them to be marvellous family pets is just ridiculous. Should be completely illegal.

Durrr-,If you actually read my post again you’ll see the rescue my dog came from actually does all this. So you could say I already have. But you just want to preach, not actually listen to a balanced post from the other side, don’t you! And Ive already explained how mine has been a marvellous family pet for a decade. But again it doesn’t seem to have gone into your small mind.

GoldPoster · 22/02/2025 21:20

Go to the police tell them how many people he’s attacked, give them the details of the rescue owners and tell them you’re being held to ransom by them. Hopefully they’ll remove the dog and the owners can deal with it.

Preciousmemory · 22/02/2025 21:25

lalalove · 22/02/2025 17:54

Has the dog seen a vet in the UK? I would seem their advice and also have the dog checked out as could possibly be very sick which could be affecting its behaviour.

I have taken him to the vet to have a uk test for Brucellosis as he has come already with one I felt I needed to double check this. The vet was concerned with the aggression which was put down to fear at the time

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SnoozingFox · 22/02/2025 21:28

Think what you like @Honeyroar , but there is just no need to be importing street/unwanted dogs to the uk. Deal with the problem at source. So yours worked out - great. OP’s dog clearly has not.

nothing will ever improve in terms of animal welfare if people just scoop up all these feral dogs and remove them.

oakleaffy · 22/02/2025 21:31

viques · 22/02/2025 20:45

What do they do with dogs they find are unsuitable for rehoming?

I can speak from a UK charity - son used to work in a workshop in the Countryside.
They saw a very thin, stray hairy Collie/herding type dog running around, and over the days decided to try to catch her.

One of them went to the farm shop and got some dog food, and put the wet food in one of the barns- she eventually went in and they slowly closed the door.

She was fine {they are all men there} when people approached her without looking directly at her, and she was able to be caught and was taken to the local dog's home.

One of there lads said if she wasn't claimed, he'd love to have her.

Every day he phoned the dog's home, to see if she'd been claimed.

They knew he wanted to adopt her {this was pre Covid era}

On the Eighth day she was PTS.

She had failed a temperament test.

The lads were really upset- son said ''Wendy'' as they'd named her was nervous if you loomed over her, but not if you approached low without looking.

Poor Wendy.

No one knew her background- for all we know, she could have been a foreign rescue who was released, or who had ''bolted'' as so many do.

The Dog's home said she wouldn't be ''safe''- so goodness knows what their temperament testing consists of, or how they fail.

UndermyShoeJoe · 22/02/2025 21:33

I don’t think it matters what the result is.

This is a human aggressive dog. That’s trying to bite people. With a useless “rescue” peddling it.

How on earth can you be responsible for it till rehoming but not its owner. Nope. Scammers for those hundreds of pounds you paid. Just scammers playing on people’s aww that poor rescue dog hearts strings.

No bloody different to the hey enter your card details to get your parcel scams. Just your now paying to keep this dog till they find the next mug to scam £500 out of.

Preciousmemory · 22/02/2025 21:35

TyrannasaurusJex · 22/02/2025 19:05

OP, why are you consistently ignoring all of the ABSOLUTELY CORRECT suggestions to have this dangerous animal put to sleep? Are you waiting for him to hurt someone or worse?

Hi, no I am reading everyone’s advice carefully, and keep going back over it. There is a lot of vey good advice which I am so grateful for. I have tried to save an animal but it has gone hideously wrong, I absolutely do not want him to hurt anybody and reading others thoughts have confirmed for me that the rescue should not be trusted to rehome him in case someone does get hurt. It is so much to take in, I have been consumed with this for 10 days and came here really as a last resort and desperation, I should have done this days ago. But feeling really over whelmed right now as I am sitting here with him at my feet feeling the worst guilt possible.

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oakleaffy · 22/02/2025 21:36

SnoozingFox · 22/02/2025 21:28

Think what you like @Honeyroar , but there is just no need to be importing street/unwanted dogs to the uk. Deal with the problem at source. So yours worked out - great. OP’s dog clearly has not.

nothing will ever improve in terms of animal welfare if people just scoop up all these feral dogs and remove them.

Spay and neuter.
This is the only viable way.

As with Feral cats, communities are spayed, neutered, they have their ear tip clipped while under anaesthetic so people know they are spayed or neutered {Cats} and it seems to work well.

Romanian dog rescue
UndermyShoeJoe · 22/02/2025 21:37

oakleaffy · 22/02/2025 21:36

Spay and neuter.
This is the only viable way.

As with Feral cats, communities are spayed, neutered, they have their ear tip clipped while under anaesthetic so people know they are spayed or neutered {Cats} and it seems to work well.

Unless their home countries spay and neuter people here will just keep importing problem animals.

TheseCalmSeas · 22/02/2025 21:37

My lovely boys were both from Romania and I would go through that process again. However, they were in a foster home & we did meet them in advance.

My parents inspired by us did the same but with it being Covid, they didn’t get a meeting and the dog wasn’t suitable. He was lovely but wanted to be with dogs not people. They gave up on the rescue centre & successfully rehomed him themselves.

In this case, as there’s aggression involved. I would be seriously considering euthanasia. I’m so sorry

MumChp · 22/02/2025 21:37

Preciousmemory · 22/02/2025 21:35

Hi, no I am reading everyone’s advice carefully, and keep going back over it. There is a lot of vey good advice which I am so grateful for. I have tried to save an animal but it has gone hideously wrong, I absolutely do not want him to hurt anybody and reading others thoughts have confirmed for me that the rescue should not be trusted to rehome him in case someone does get hurt. It is so much to take in, I have been consumed with this for 10 days and came here really as a last resort and desperation, I should have done this days ago. But feeling really over whelmed right now as I am sitting here with him at my feet feeling the worst guilt possible.

You will fell even more guilt if he attacks a person not able to fight him off. People are seriously harmed by dogs. Children can die.
End it here.

TheseCalmSeas · 22/02/2025 21:40

carly2803 · 22/02/2025 21:08

I have never understood why people insist on getting unknown dogs from abroad when there are so many here in little rescues needing homes

ANyhow, put the dog to sleep - aggression like that is not worth the risk to anyone

once a biter, never trusted

Honestly, you think it’s easy to rehome here but it’s not. We waited 18 months trying various centres and charities through the UK. Our needs weren’t very specific but we did need a dog that was child friendly and even an elderly dog would have been fine.

Preciousmemory · 22/02/2025 21:41

UndermyShoeJoe · 22/02/2025 21:33

I don’t think it matters what the result is.

This is a human aggressive dog. That’s trying to bite people. With a useless “rescue” peddling it.

How on earth can you be responsible for it till rehoming but not its owner. Nope. Scammers for those hundreds of pounds you paid. Just scammers playing on people’s aww that poor rescue dog hearts strings.

No bloody different to the hey enter your card details to get your parcel scams. Just your now paying to keep this dog till they find the next mug to scam £500 out of.

And this is what will happen when they rehome another adoption fee, then another rehome and another adoption fee. When I had the test done it did matter because until I knew if he was clear I could not have taken him anywhere that he would come in contact with dogs. This was before last night when everything took a much worse turn. We were trying to work through the aggression with my husband with training and using different methods but last night changed quite a lot especially when I could know longer say it was fear of men that may have been resolvable but it is now looking like it is more than this.

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Nameychangington · 22/02/2025 21:41

viques · 22/02/2025 20:43

Better mad requirements than a mad dog.

But the mad requirements of UK rescues are partly fuelling the importation of risky foreign dogs, and the back yard breeding industry, because perfectly ordinary normal people can't get a dog by adoption. If UK rescues insist on no child in the extended family, must have a 6 foot wall around the garden, and a non working adult available 24/7, a lot of people who want a dog will seek one elsewhere.

Some people should not have dogs. Some other people shouldn't have a dog at this point in their lives. UK rescues are right to be careful. But some have such unnecessarily restrictive rules that they are excluding capable dog owners and keeping dogs in shelters who could have a loving happy home.

Preciousmemory · 22/02/2025 21:45

Keepingthingsinteresting · 22/02/2025 21:01

The dog is clearly traumatised and not safe, but calling them ‘it’ shows you are without empathy and your words on this topic are not to be given weight.

Im so sorry this is happening @Preciousmemory , it must be breaking your heart. If the dog trusts and is comfortable with you then being pts in a place they feel safe with a person they trust stroking them is not the worst thing that could happen.

Thank you 😪

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Preciousmemory · 22/02/2025 21:50

Lolarose999 · 22/02/2025 18:12

Hi OP, which rescue is this? Please feel free to DM me. I used to volunteer for a Romanian rescue, so may be able to help with next steps. The rescue I worked with, had a back up plan where the dog was returned to Romania if relinquished, regardless of if another home was found.

Alot of the time, I was dealing with dogs that went into back up rescue when some had been returned due to aggression issues. I may be able to help in which ones. In this case, the Romanian rescue payed the cost of this, but this isn't the norm

Thank you. I will message you

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