Romanian dog rescue

[Preciousmemory]

I am in an awful situation that I can find no solution to. Please if any one could give me some advice.
i have rescued a Romanian dog which has turned out so badly.
He arrived 10 days ago and has serious problems I am not able to deal with so am asking if anyone can offer me advice.
The rescue have a policy that I must give him back to be rehomed but are not able to find anyone although it is a short time they are describing him on the advert as a dog that loves humans and children and dogs. A huge part of this is not right I have not tested him with a child but as for people he definitely does not like them , only me.
He attacks my husband in the morning, in the evening when he returns home from work and then randomly at any other time. The attacks are getting progressively worse. But yesterday he met my 80 year old tiny dad for the first time which I had also for the first time put a muzzle on him after 7 days of training with it.
The attack was so ferocious on my dad that he was foaming at the mouth leaping as high as his shoulders to grab him but because he was muzzled there was no damage. my dad immediately left. I despair to think what may have happened otherwise. My daughter turned up shortly after the same thing happened. I was thinking he maybe afraid of men but it seems not.
I have constantly tried to work with the Romanian Rescue which could take months for them to find a suitable home, the only option I have from them is to stick this traumatised dog into a kennel which will cause further damage to him, but I am not able to keep him in my home with this level of aggression.
Dog rescues are full up. I have contacted a few that specifically deal with dog aggression. I do not see how this poor dog can just be homed in a normal family environment as this will happen again. He is a large growing powerful dog that could cause serious damage to a person.
Thank you for reading , this is such an anxious problem that I see no solution to.
I am grateful for any advice possible .

Can you keep him muzzled in thr house until Monday to reduce further risk to your husband? If I was him frankly I'd be staying in a hotel until the dog had been removed (and I say that as a huge dog lover).

Yes 😖

Romanian street dogs (or any street dogs) are effectively feral - not stray and able to be taken into a family easily. You will get some flukes who have been dumped after being bred from nice dogs and owned by a family, but alot of these dogs will have been on the street their whole life and so will their parents and grandparents and so on. The logistics of this means that only the meanest wariest slyest dogs will have been able to breed - dogs will kill each other's puppies, kill each other over territory and food and breeding rights, people will kill them when they're being a nuisance, they'll get run over now and then - so the dogs who successfully breed have to be mean wary and sly to do so. This doesn't make a nice pet, it's like taking a dingo into your home.

Rescues in the UK are shit too, I'd encourage people who want a nice pet and not a rescue project to buy a nice companion breed (not working breeds either, they have their own vices alot of the time) and make dog ownership a pleasant thing again. There are far too many aggressive, hyperactive dogs flitting about everywhere you go, shredding the house when left alone and making their owner's lives a misery.

My husband did stay away for a few days, he has now been coming home and going to bed very early. In the mornings when he leaves I sit in the garden with the dog so he doesn’t bite him. Because it has also been random attacks that has been harder to deal with, being unpredictable. To start with it was when he came through the front door. We have tried so many different things to try to understand and some have worked well, he comes through the door with a treat and me know where near as we felt some of it was to do with protecting me.

Name this charity beginning with a P?

Your dog is dangerous...
How does your husband feel?

and then sue the ‘rescuers’

I'm wondering if it's p3nnypaw5 - distorted to avoid being searchable.

Poor dog. Not suitable for a home so sadly pts. How much vetting did the rescue do.

Sounds like the only vetting they did was whether the OP could cough up the £500.

I would be far more concerned about these fucking knuckles placing this dog in another family home then whatever they think they can do with a 'contract'

Sadly, I think the best thing for this poor dog is to actually be put to sleep, he won't know anything about it, but he will know if he gets beaten in another home for biting or being aggressive 🥲

No it isn’t but I think quite a few of them are connected to each other

Devastated at how this has turned out. We both love animals very much and both still very sad after losing our two old boys which in their old age both needed so much extra care. I take the blame for all of this as it was me that thought I could make things better. We hoped with training we maybe able to solve the issues but they became much worse. He is also angry with the rescue as feel they have put us in a terrible situation.

I think maybe P3rr3rra

But is he ready to put the dog to sleep?
You don't seem to be.

I hate putting animals to sleep but it seems you may be right.

Dogs must be socialised well as puppies. This one sounds like it was not and probably trained to be aggressive. The original owners sound at fault in reality. Poor dog.

I did not realise until we had problems but they are all based in the UK so unlikely they have ever met the dogs, Their write ups on almost all of the dogs when I look now are pretty much the same, they are great with dogs, good with children sometimes quotes dog savvy children most are great with cats. But it seems they are all this. I now question about children as do they take a child to a dog pound

It needs to be put down. Thems the rules with dogs that attack. Also, always baffles me why people in the UK are so keen on immigrant dogs but not people.

He feels so sorry for him, even though it has been him who has been attacked. It is me that is looking at the grim reality and outcome. Which sickens me.

I like all animals and all people if they are nice , I only see personalities

Do you see any realistic outcome? Why hestitate?

I can not see a solution, I have spent a week dealing with this. Rescues are not taking on dogs , most of my calls today have made me realise that most rescues will not take on an aggressive dog, I looked up rescues for aggressive dogs, came across one that rehabilitates to rehome or keep the rescues that will never be rehomed. This is what I hoped for I guess. I also looked at a rescue that rehabilitate aggressive dogs for 6 weeks, £700 per week.
in the beginning I thought he would be able to be rehomed but now know that is the wrong thing to do until he is assessed. Which this rescue would happily rehome him for the next adoption fee.

@Preciousmemory This sounds like a total nightmare, I am sorry this has happened to you.

No judgement on you at all but it doesn't sound like you're remotely equipped skills or experience wise to deal with a dog like this (he is not 'protecting you' even well balanced healthy dogs do not do that. He is protecting himself and it sounds like he is so off balance he is doing so offensively - ie, going out of his way to drive away perceived danger, actually putting himself at more risk to do so - clearly maladaptive, abnormal behaviour. This tends to happen when an already fearful dog is pushed way beyond his ability to cope. ).

He is a long way from needing a trainer, he needs weeks or months to decompress, and then a behaviour modification program following an in depth assessment by a behaviourist. Only once that has worked and you have a relaxed, happy dog, can you even think about training!

You should never have been given a dog like this, and this sort of set up where dogs are not assessed, not given the time they need before moving to a new home and the rescue then has nowhere to put them when the homing fails, is exactly why so many rescue people and behaviour/training people are anti-overseas rescue.

Your options:

1 - out of hours vet, euthanise on the basis that he has bitten several people and you can't keep him safe.

Beaware that you will receive a barrage of shit from the rescue and likely be bad mouthed across social media, with their version of the truth presented as fact.

2 - try calling the police. This dog has now been abandoned with you, you are fearing injury, have already suffered prior injury and the dogs legal owners are refusing to collect in a reasonable time frame. The efficacy of this really depends on how good your local police service is.

I really don't have any better suggestions - unfortunately this is a situation some of us have seen play out over and over, countless times, with dogs effectively dumped with people who cannot cope with them, and threatened that they must keep this dog until some unspecified time when someone might turn up and take it away!

If you still want to try with him, he needs to decompress - a room to himself, limited contact with people and only with a muzzle on. Just do the bare bones of what is necessary, food, somewhere to toilet, drink. I fully appreciate, you may not be able to achieve that!

Of course they won't. They can't rehome an aggressive dog. It's simply not safe. No serious rescue wants to put up and adopt a dog known to bite. You risk serious injuries or a child's death. And they would be vlamed big time as they knew the dog former history.

I wouldn't be responsible for the Romanian resue to pass the dog to another unknowning family who would experience exactly the same as you. The rescue doesn't care at all. That's way you ended in this situation in the first place. And you are stuck with the dog. They haven't been round to collect it.
Put it to sleep, lesson learned and move on.

That’s awful but good for you for walking away from that. My husband was talking to a lovely lady in a pet shop about our situation. She said the exact same thing and now I have heard it twice