Work pay review disappointment

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I am so mad I could cry!!
Had our work pay reviews this week.
I received and outstanding in my year end review ( very hard to get) and a promotion ( chose to stay at a lower level last year to gain more experience and more chance of decent pay rise this year) so I waited it out go over and above received fantastic feedback and I got the most appalling shitest increase of £900 a year. Wft !! I was gob smacked. Usual bullshit excuses goes on prior year you got double what everyone else got. It's private sector all on different pay so it's all irrelevant that I got double everyone else. My pay is low and I know it is but instead of complaining I've always tried to exceed my goals and work for a pay rise. It's seems they only had out decent pay rises when you leave or have another job waiting in the wings.
I am so mad and fucked off. Team leader said they are halting my promotion to go ahead with it in June as more chance of head office agreeing a pay rise out of pay review window.
I know my team leader is only the messenger but I actually want to laugh in her face at the fucking minimal shit £900 they think is ok.
I don't want to leave as it's flexible and benefits are good but I am so underpaid it's a joke.
I want to send her an email to say how dissatisfied and upset I am but not sure it will help. Do I want until June or voice my annoyance now - advice needed .
Been told this morning ( in confidence by a work friend) another colleague had gone in with another job offer and she got want she wanted but I am just not that kind of person to lie or make up a job offer pathetic aren't I

There were three in our department. One left, never replaced. The two left to pick up the slack. We each got a 2% pay rise.

See that does make me mad, they have saved a salary and the other two get 2%?!

Vote with your feet and leave. Unless you’re in the arse end of nowhere I’m sorry but that’s a dreadful salary considering you’ve been there for 20 years I wouldn’t accept that. If you can earn £41k elsewhere hot foot is there immediately! Most companies are ok with flexibility etc and if your kids are older that’s not as important. I’m a nurse been qualified 12 years and on double your salary which is ridiculous- you deserve more!!!!

I think 3-4% is about right for an annual pay increase in private sector at the moment. It's what I got.

As others have said, the only way to increase your salary is to go to a different company. The biggest annual pay rise I've got in a company is maybe 5%. The smallest pay rise I've got moving companies is 20% and the biggest was several times that.

Sometimes it makes sense to stay where you are, esp if you need flexibility. But then you're essentially "buying" flexibility by accepting lower pay.

Definitely make your case for promotion and a bigger bump in June. But I would then taken that higher salary and use it to bump up any offers you get when your move company!

You’re not alone!
Thats the average pay rise for a majority of people
if you don’t like it you’re free to go and work elsewhere!!

Is this in 1970?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1272447/uk-wage-growth-vs-inflation/

wages are out preforming inflation presently, which frankly they need to do to catch up.

Bet you that when you hand over your resignation- they’ll offer you a pay rise. It’s cheaper for them to retain by offering you less than the cost of recruitment and training. If they do this though it shows they are reactionary and not proactive as a conpany

@Mynewnameis That's fairly standard unfortunately. Unless you move (see below )

@ivegotthisyeah even the national minimum wage is rising by 6.7% so that is actually going to be a drop in real terms!!!

That's absolutely shit, I work for the council, we have had over 3.2% the last two years and got it in November backdated to April. Does your union not fight for more? We also go up and increment in our pay scale every 6 months till you are at the top. Then I just start applying for jobs in the next level up.

As a woman you have to be ruthless in the corporate world. It sounds like you've given up.

My last 'rise' doesn't even cover inflation. They were saying it's budget related but are still hiring new people :(

Ours does that all the time. They think they're clever by doing it, but in all the people who've left (and there is many), they've only retained one person doing that, and they went into a different department. People don't want to stay when they've been pushed that far because they've lost trust.

Business is business. It's not about playing happy families and being loyal. You want to get anywhere you have to play the game.

Ultimately, you have been with your company two decades and they don’t think you will leave. Based on your account, you could have been promoted last year, but you did not pursue that opportunity. I work in the public sector so there is a published pay scale with most, but not all, staff starting at the bottom of their grade, however earlier this month I spotted a male dominated area offering a 20K recruitment and retention payment on top of a 60 - 70 K salary.

Were I you, I wouldn’t be confident of securing that promotion and pay increase in June. So, how can you increase your income? Increase your working hours and start applying for promotion elsewhere.

I think you will undermine your argument by going in all guns blazing. Keep your cards close to your chest. Your LM may wonder what you will do next. Tell her you are exploring options.

Not an issue where I work, but could they think you are receiving in-work benefits and so it doesn’t make much difference to your net situation.

No, It would have been late eighties.

Your company sounds like the one I work for.

The increase you’re receiving is minimal to cover the cost of inflation and it’s above the inflation levels currently, so please don’t be too upset with that.

Your promotion and payrise is a separate matter and as a Senior Manager in my organisation I see where your Manager is coming from. We’ve been advised to hold promotions back until the salary increases are processed, as it’s impossible to get higher increases in place until that process concludes.

In your position I would be patient but I would want transparency in relation to what the payrise in June will look like. Your manager should be able to confirm that for you, so at least you know what you’re being patient for.

Looking at the figures you’ve quoted, are you hoping to go from £29K to £41k? That’s quite a leap, I imagine it would be quite difficult to be awarded that much of an increase, although not impossible I suppose depending on your employer!

It isn't good.

I can't help feeling that you won't get a written committment to any promotion in June. If you feel you are being underpaid for your role then, as many of the earlier posters said, it is time to find another job. I suspect your current employer doesn't see you as a high flight risk and you need to disabuse them of this. Money talks, bullshit walks.

Good luck!

Not not £41 at current work place that's totally not gonna happened! 10% was my lowest in my head! So if full time early 30,s

Apply elsewhere. You have the legal right to request flexible working from day 1 of the job. They have to prove why they can't allow it if they say no.

Yes, about 4% is standard. People with average/low performance get nothing or a lower raise. If you don't have sales/ billable hours related bonuses, significant raises without moving to a new position are mostly not a thing.

Some companies do not have an annual pay review, people sit on the same wages for years and years. That in my experience includes both tiny firms and big corporate companies.

I expect to be giving about this for excellent performance. I like the security of annual raises which I've not seen in previous companies without moving roles or negotiating for a one-off raise. I would previously try to get promoted about once a year to get a raise of any significance. This is something an excellent performer will be able to do in most private companies up to a certain level.

As for my own payrise, I'll be getting nothing as senior executive raises have been frozen for a while now.

We are getting 0% this year, just announced.
Back office staff, exceptional performers, and weaker performers too.
Private sector.
I have been here so long I will retire here, if I was younger I'd go find another job.

You must have had an idea of what the promotion would pay though? Like I know what a cyber security manager earns roughly vs a cyber security analyst. You must have a ballpark to work with which is then on top of the £900? So just £900 total including promotion and annual review payrise makes no sense. Just vote with your feet and leave.

Hi OP, not posting this to hoist or be smug - posting so you (and others) can see it IS possible for the private sector not to treat you like a mug.

I work for a huge global private company. I'm pretty much bottom of the food chain. Been here for over 20 years, but I love the company and I especially love my current role (so much so that I've done this rule for over half of my time here). Our pay scales are benchmarked nationally and then scales at 80-120%. If you sit below 100%, in theory you get a bigger pay increase annually compared to those over 100% (subject to getting at least a meets expectations).

A few years ago, I had my annual pay discussion and went away to mull it over. I realised that I had been in the role for 7 years at that point, and when I looked at my percentage of scale, I realised I had gobs down from 94% to 93%. I looked back over previous years and realised I was basically hovering around the 94% mark. So I mentioned to my boss that I was a bit disheartened as it was essentially a pay cut in a way because if I'd stayed at the same % of the scale when they reassessed the scales, I'd have actually been on a higher new salary than what I had been given annually. Anyway, I thought I was just having a bit of a grumble and that would be it. A month or so later she called me to tell me that she had been impressed with the way I had gone about arguing my case (genuinely did not think that was what I was doing but hey ho) and so she had gone to the GM to discuss it. He completely agreed and said basically they wanted to recognise my experience in the role and the crucialness of that to the business and were giving me an out of cycle pay rise to put me up to 100% of the pay band! I couldn't believe it - I had never had a pay increase of that size.

The following year, or maybe even the year after, I got an exceeds expectations (so not as good as OP's Outstanding) - I got an 11.9% pay rise. My manager (different one to the previous one) told me that he appreciated everything I did and would always give me the largest possible pay rise he could from his pot. I'm not on just shy of 104% of range - so it's grown by several percentage points despite it supposedly being harder to do that post 100% compared to those 7 years at the 94% mark).

The point is, even multi billion dollar corporate machines can recognise even the tiniest of cogs on their business and look after them. Having a decent manager to back you helps. But not being afraid to express your dissatisfaction and disappointment is also important. State facts. Argue your case. If they truly value you, they'll want to keep you - and a few extra thousand a year is nothing to them, but everything to you.

For context, I was on around £25k before all this. I'm now on £34k for the exact same role just 5 years later (with next pay review due shortly). I have another new LM and he has told me that previous LM had shared with him his he looked after me and has promised to do the same. I admit I've been extremely lucky with my last 3 managers and so that's played a big part in this!

Good luck OP. Work out what you want, what you think you're worth, and go for it!