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To think the Gabby Petito bodycam footage is beyond distressing

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Tricho · 21/02/2025 10:54

Just watching this on netflix

The bodycam footage of her is one of the hardest things I've watched, an utterly terrified and distraught sweet, sweet girl

How her mother watched it I'll never know, I was sobbing.

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foureightnine · 21/02/2025 13:22

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Have some respect.

Ritzybitzy · 21/02/2025 13:23

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You’re right. It isn’t. We should stop trying to save anyone apart from them. No more cancer cures. No more child line. We must rank sadness and only deal with the saddest.

Ritzybitzy · 21/02/2025 13:24

PrincessOfPreschool · 21/02/2025 13:15

I’m guessing there wasn’t a female police officer present at all.

There was. I think she arrived a bit later and joined the discussion about what they should do.

I think with hindsight it's very obvious he was an abuser but I could see how the police may have thought it was her, especially when she confirmed it. I think the documentary was good at showing she wasn't a 'pushover' and did retaliate or get visibly annoyed with him quite a bit. The day (day before?) she was killed she told him not to pay for the food because it made her feel sick, whilst she went to the toilet leaving him to deal with it.

She was noticeably injured and the person who called it in reported seeing him slapping her. There was no excuse.

Lwrenn · 21/02/2025 13:35

When the case was unfolding and was everywhere I was so hopeful that she'd be okay. She was young and so distressed but had such promise of a lovely life with her family. Her killer and his family didn't deserve gabby in their lives.
When women of any age are killed by abusive partners its devastating but to see footage of her, so young and clearly being abused prior to her murder, makes it really haunt you.

moonsunandstars · 21/02/2025 13:56

I have been in abusive relationships in my 20s.

I am very lucky to have survived and I am so happy to be away from trash.

I feel incredibly sorry for Gabbys parents. Her parents are both remarried. All of the 4 adults call Gabby "our daughter" ❤️

GinandGingerBeer · 21/02/2025 13:58

I found it so upsetting to watch and honestly, nothing usually gets to me but this did.
She was such a lovely young woman.
The police really didn't seem to have the first idea! All they were thinking was, "if this turns to shit have we covered our asses' and no, you let her down massively Sad
His parents! I don't think they were ever prosecuted for perverting the course of justice or anything?
Apples never fall..

Theunamedcat · 21/02/2025 14:02

Kittygolightlyy · 21/02/2025 13:12

Oh god was there? That is shocking 🥺

Not really if you meet a female officer and your a female victim they will go out of their way to make you the problem

I was accused by my husbands ex of causing trouble I could literally prove I was nowhere near where this allegedly happened showed the officers my proof when they came around the male officer said OK fair enough we will speak to her about this female got furious and said no I want to arrest her (me) he said she was nowhere near just leave it we can check the cctv of the place in the morning (it was 2am) and confirm but it looks like the complaint is false nope she went off she needs to sign a warning I'm not standing for this he spoke to someone on the radio outside while she berated me then she got a call and they left I heard nothing again

Lady ran from domestic abuse he beat her so badly whilst pregnant he sent her into early labour there was an allegation that the baby had bruises from him beating the mum while she was in utero he found her beat her snatched the toddler tried snatching the baby then ran with the toddler the female police officer said maybe she should allow him to see HIS children then he wouldn't be so desperate as she sat on the floor pouring with blood because he had beat her to get the child she then said she would have to go to court you really want to drag your kids to court? You need to sort things out for the sake of the children 🙄 toddler was returned by this point she had the audacity to suggest she be given to her dad to look after because mom might have a concussion and might not be capable no suggestion that he be arrested for assault or violating the court order no 🙄

So no I'm not surprised a female police officer did nothing to support a woman

As we said in our domestic violence support group we are afraid of men we are REALLY afraid of women in uniform acting like men

wildfellhall · 21/02/2025 14:09

I haven't read the whole thread but I think all these officers genuinely meant well but were poorly trained and led. They have had an investigation and have learned from it as I'm sure have police services across the world.

What is obvious in hindsight is:

A chaotic approach to the couple
Too many officers
No systematic questioning
A 'bro' assumptive attitude to Laundrie.
No tools to assess the situation
A total failure to 'join up' the caller's observation of him slapping her

But officers nowadays have to take on that there are male victims of violence - they have to do right by them as well

This tragedy was preventable but it's hard to stop a gaslit woman from throwing her lot in with a time bomb like this waste of space that was Brian Laundrie.

We can't protect everyone from being manipulated by vicious people. I don't think anyone knew that she was in danger til it was far too late. She was completely in his power until the very end when she was making noises about leaving him - famously the most dangerous time for an abused woman.

Her ex seemed to sense she was in danger as he said to be careful I think?

His parents - what completely bizarre human beings - to let Petito's parents suffer for all those days. It awful that his lie, that he had flown back when he'd obviously didn't as her van was there, couldn't lead to his arrest but apparently not. The police must have been hindered by the total sh** bag of an attorney protecting the family from doing the right thing.

The mother's letter to Laundrie is horrific to me.

CheekySnake · 21/02/2025 14:15

PrincessOfPreschool · 21/02/2025 13:15

I’m guessing there wasn’t a female police officer present at all.

There was. I think she arrived a bit later and joined the discussion about what they should do.

I think with hindsight it's very obvious he was an abuser but I could see how the police may have thought it was her, especially when she confirmed it. I think the documentary was good at showing she wasn't a 'pushover' and did retaliate or get visibly annoyed with him quite a bit. The day (day before?) she was killed she told him not to pay for the food because it made her feel sick, whilst she went to the toilet leaving him to deal with it.

I've lived with coercive control. I know it inside and out. I'm going to dig into this post, just a little bit.

She said the chicken was off and made her nauseous. She went to the toilet, quite possibly to throw up. Asking your partner to deal with the bill in this situation is normal.

In the situation when the police decided she was the aggressor, they were contacted by someone who had seen him hitting her.

The police pull them over, partly because of the bad driving. Gabby is very distressed and is unable to articulate exactly what has happened. She has marks on her arm and face indicating she's been hit. The male officer acknowledges this, but dismisses it. She asks if she can have her phone to call her mother. She can't give a clear account of what has happened. She immediately blames herself, despite the marks on her face and arm and the fact that someone saw him hitting her. She says she has OCD. She has anxiety. Of course she bloody does, she's in an abusive relationship.

All of Gabby's behaviour is indicative of someone who is being coercively controlled. She's confused but desperate to take the blame (because in a coercive relationship, this is what you are trained to do. You are made responsible for the other person's awful behaviour. You made them do it, and therefore you are the one who has to fix it by correcting your own behaviour. You try your best and it seems to be working, but then there's another explosion. You promise to try harder. You're not quite sure what you did wrong, but you'll fix it. Your partner is so distressed by the awful thing you made them do to you. You want to fix their pain. You learn early on that the easiest way to get the silent treatment, the sulking, the nastiness to end is if you say it's all your fault. The nice version of them comes back more quickly if you do. Every time, there's a promise that it's fixed now. It will all be nice from now on. And it is, for a month, for a couple of days, for an hour, until you make another mistake. Sometimes you make a mistake on purpose because you can feel the rage building and not knowing when it's going to boil over is unbearable.

And so it goes, over and over and over again, until you are hypervigilant, constantly anxious, barely sleeping, and blaming yourself for all of it. You are so embarrassed, full of shame, barely able to make a decision. If you react or respond to anything, a slap across the face, a violent shove, having your phone snatched out of your hand, having your dinner thrown in your face, being accused of something you didn't do, then you're immediately accused of being abusive and violent and threatened with the police, despite the fact that you're considerably shorter and smaller and the power imbalance is not in your favour and you've been hit plenty of times, although that was always provoked, of course. You made him do it. DARVO.

Brian, on the other hand, shows no signs of distress. He very calmly tells the officers that Gabby is to blame and they accept it without question because it's easy, isn't it? After all, look at the stupid hysterical woman. And yes, he slapped her around a bit, but he was defending himself despite being bigger and stronger and male (and therefore far more likely to be violent), and she's obviously crazy, she can't even explain what happened and she's got mental health problems, she said so herself, and you'd do the same as Brian if you had to put up with a woman like that.

Being abusive makes men like this feel in control. It helps them to feel calm. That's partly why they do it.

Any officer with proper training in spotting coercive control would have seen this immediately.

As for the officer who says his wife is the same as Gabby, has these anxious meltdowns? My first thought was I wonder what he's like at home.

FanofLeaves · 21/02/2025 14:18

I thought the documentary implied that she’d gone to the toilet saying she felt sick to call the ex boyfriend, who sadly couldn’t pick up. I felt she could have been buying time because he’d have to talk to the server about why he wasn’t paying for her food.

menopausalfart · 21/02/2025 14:21

To see him laughing with the cops and her being a total wreck, boiled my blood.

chinup123 · 21/02/2025 14:38

I have been a victim of domestic abuse and a PP said previously the stress coercive control puts on you can mean you end up looking like the unhinged one and police officers etc are just not well enough trained to look out for this.

I remember finally having the courage to call the police because my ex partner had strangled me. It was not the first time, but I finally built up enough courage. When the police arrived I was inconsolable, practically hysterical. He was calm and collected and painted me out to be unhinged, he showed them the scratch on his face and arms, which were clearly from me trying to defend myself, they took everything he said as the gospel, I wasn't arrested but I was removed from the property and taken to the police station and questioned like a perpetrator. The bruising from the strangulation was not yet visible, although I could barely talk, so they saw me as injury free. I had a bite mark on my arm and cheek which they said could have been him defending himself.

I was in utter shock, I reached out for help and instead they helped him. I went back to him (I can't even attempt to explain why, but when you're in that its hard to do) and it took another 2 years before I left, I never called the police again.

TheaBrandt1 · 21/02/2025 14:41

His fucking mother too. Glad the families sued her.

LunaNorth · 21/02/2025 20:23

What a weird, weird family the Laundries are.

x2boys · 21/02/2025 20:27

LunaNorth · 21/02/2025 20:23

What a weird, weird family the Laundries are.

Indeed and if they had done the right thing Brian would stoll be alive too.albeit rightly incarcerated

menopausalfart · 21/02/2025 21:37

His reason for killing her was completely ridiculous. If she had hurt herself, surely he could have phoned the emergency services instead of strangling the life out of her.

StMarie4me · 21/02/2025 21:52

x2boys · 21/02/2025 11:05

I also wondered why he got the hotel room and she got the van but as its been pointed out on another thread, giving her the van meant she had means of escaping if she so wished

I thought that was what they were doing? Getting him away from her so she could leave.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 21/02/2025 22:20

I watched this last night, it is sad but also so frustrating.

She had so many opportunities to walk away, so many red flags yet she still went on the road trip with him.

Even when the police separated them and she could have just driven home she went back to him.

More should be done to educate young women about how abusers operate and what is and is not a healthy relationship.

He was a monster and his family should be in jail. Why could the police not bring him in for questioning?!

x2boys · 21/02/2025 23:27

menopausalfart · 21/02/2025 21:37

His reason for killing her was completely ridiculous. If she had hurt herself, surely he could have phoned the emergency services instead of strangling the life out of her.

Li know he said he was putting her out of her misery ,I could kind of understand a person putting a pet out of their misery but his fiancee??
You would do anything you could to save them.

OwlInTheOak · 21/02/2025 23:32

Leaving her with the van gave her the space and means to leave. If they had put her in the hotel and left him with her van, then the events had played out the same when he picked her up then people would be saying they caused it by leaving her in a situation where he had her van and items and couldn't get them back without seeing him.

It was an awful situation and like so many abused women gabby tried to cover for him and seemed to believe herself that she was to blame, which influenced the police officers views.
Ideally it would have played out differently, but likely regardless of how they spoke to her she would have defended him and returned to him at the stage she seemed to be in of the abuse.

Thisshirtisonfire · 21/02/2025 23:37

I feel sp sorry for her but regarding the behaviour of the police... I'm not sure what they could have done beyond what they did at that point.
People say they should have forced her to go home.. but she was an adult who was saying that's not what she wanted.
Both parties were saying she initiated the fight and was the one assaulting him whilst he defended himself (given what we now know i don't believe that for a second but how could the police decide he was the aggressor when they were both saying he wasnt)
I'm not sure what they could have done..
People say they should have left him with the van and taken her home. However the van was legally hers not his. Which is why they made him go to a hotel.
Honestly the police did a lot more than I've seen them do in my experience.
In making sure they were apart etc..
But they had no real power to arrest anyone here. Unfortunately it's very difficult if the victim is saying they are not a victim. All they had was a couple saying they saw him hit her as they drive past. But Gabby tells the police that that was just him pushing her away.
Just very very sad the whole thing.

HelenCurlyBrown · 21/02/2025 23:39

I thought from the outset how biased it was. The witness that called the police referred to
them as a ‘gentleman and a girl’.

TheChosenTwo · 21/02/2025 23:45

She had so much love and support from her 4 parents. It really struck me how much warmth and love her step parents showed for her. You don’t often see step parents on programmes like this.
Such an awful outcome for all of them.
His family were dreadful, horrible people.

Mehmeh22 · 21/02/2025 23:57

Gonna go slightly against the grain here....for starters, he 💯 did kill her and that's obvious.

But having been on a road trip in a tiny van with your partner...cabin fever is real! There were times where we had such bad rows over tiny things...you didnt have much to talk about and only had each other. I felt extremely vulnerable so I accepted more than I would normally. Like I did, they clearly had trauma bonded.

It does look like he's getting irritated with her using camera every 5 seconds. That would get annoying for anyone! Everything through a camera lens instead of enjoying the moment. Granted this is something she wanted, but it clearly didn't come naturally to her and she didnt feel confident doing it. That fake smile he had said it al!

She also showed signs of irritation with him in the recordings and he probably felt emasculated by that and blew up. Not saying that is right.

It is an uncomfortable watch knowing what happens. She probably did lash out at him at times and that's why she felt she had to admit blame to the police.

x2boys · 22/02/2025 00:02

Thisshirtisonfire · 21/02/2025 23:37

I feel sp sorry for her but regarding the behaviour of the police... I'm not sure what they could have done beyond what they did at that point.
People say they should have forced her to go home.. but she was an adult who was saying that's not what she wanted.
Both parties were saying she initiated the fight and was the one assaulting him whilst he defended himself (given what we now know i don't believe that for a second but how could the police decide he was the aggressor when they were both saying he wasnt)
I'm not sure what they could have done..
People say they should have left him with the van and taken her home. However the van was legally hers not his. Which is why they made him go to a hotel.
Honestly the police did a lot more than I've seen them do in my experience.
In making sure they were apart etc..
But they had no real power to arrest anyone here. Unfortunately it's very difficult if the victim is saying they are not a victim. All they had was a couple saying they saw him hit her as they drive past. But Gabby tells the police that that was just him pushing her away.
Just very very sad the whole thing.

Yes I agree with you.its all very well looking back in hind sight
But they were both saying she was the aggressor what else could they do? They gave her the opportunity to get away sadly she didn't take it
It was also said Brian flew home for a few days to empty a container and Gabby was in a hotel room where she contacted her ex again it was a missed opportunity for her to get away it's an incredibly sad situation. .