Women singers singing in their knickers.

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I admit I'm older generation.
I'm a great admirer of singers such as Nina Simone, Linda Ronstadt, Suzi Quatro, Christine Perfect, Joan Baez, Tracy Chapman etc, etc.
They all not only have great voices but also real musical talent.
And they also don't stand and sing in their knickers
So what is it with people like Beyonce and Rhianna? If they really are talented why do they need to sing in their knickers? Why do they need to use sex to sell their songs? They are powerful enough not to bend to the industry pressure on them. Why not stand or fall on their talents rather than on selling their sexuality.?

A lot of male singers sing semi naked. It's more to do with a provocation than sex.

And if they feel like singing in knickers, why not? They are not MADE to do this, its their choice.

It was a question because there aren’t any comments saying it’s empowering.

Well actually because I've never heard of Sabrina Carpenter!

Anyone who has seen any female performer knows they usually switch up their outfits depends on the set and dance list.

rihanna has performed once in the past 5 ish years! In a jumpsuit.

But if these women wish to so be it. I really doubt a singer with the level of power Beyonce has js wearing leotards against her will.

She crafts her entire productions from start to end. (she was actually more covered up at start of her career when she had less creative power!)

I saw Tom Grennan a couple of years ago. He didn’t wear a top for most of the gig, did a lot of muscle flexing etc. He wore trousers that were very tight on his bum with tassels down the sides which really emphasised his movement.

Beyoncé’s isn’t wearing knickers she wearing a leotard. Her dance routines are very physically demanding

Maybe some women just have no issue with performers choosing to wear production attire that may or may not be revealing.

you really don’t know how the music industry treats its artists, especially when they’re young and female, do you?

I think OP’s “knickers” must look very different to the “knickers” I wear!

But Sabrina Carpenter is a current performer and Rihanna has not released music in a decade. So why write a post now about Rihanna’s past outfits and not Madonna or Pink or Miley Cyrus?

And when did you ever see a Beyonce concert? I have and “performs in her knickers” is very inccurate”.

Could it just be that you are choosing to sexualise Beyonce and Rihanna’s bodies.

I thoroughly agree. Women being presented as sex objects encourages men to see all of us as brainless bimbos whose main job is to provide sex.

I think clothing is skimpier than ever these days, from what teens wear to girls and young women posing on Instagram wearing extremely small and suggestive clothing, to female sports stars wearing their uniforms up their bum cracks. Some of the Olympic dive teams practically had bare bums. I watch figure skating, and some of the women's costumes are the same in the seat area, and many of the costumes look like sexy lingerie as they make copious use of flesh-coloured material to look as if they're hardly wearing anything. It never used to be like this.

Skimpy clothing in public or on social media is simply tasteless, desperate, and cheap-looking, and nothing will ever convince me otherwise. Women and girls who dress like that make themselves look pretty dim, when they may be anything but. There's not much correlation between the amount of skin on show and how alluring you are. In the photos below, KM looks really sexy without having to get out her chest or bum or midriff.

Yes. They make them sing naked.

She's won more Grammy's than anyone else, ever. Her industry thinks she's incredibly talented.

I mean, I'm a very married, very straight, old-fashioned feminist killjoy, but I will watch Taylor perform the live version of Vigilante Shit until the cows come home...

So women are to blame for men’s behaviour.

Kate is not performer so hardly an example although remind me what she wore on the catwalk when William first saw her……

Well those photos show them wearing clothes! I've not actually seen them wearing as much clothing as that before !

Can I suggest, OP, that maybe you'd be better off starting threads about topics you do actually have some knowledge of?

So you made a whole thread based on inaccurate information?

I will be there in June too - I have my cowboy boots ready!

You should also take a look at the stars of the musicals in the 30s, 40s and 50s, from Ann Miller, Cyd Charisse, Judy Garland... Take a look at Ann Miller singing and dancing to Shaking the Blues Away from Easter Parade and take a look at her tights and the modesty panel when her skirt is unhooked...

I don't actually hold much respect for the music industry and I think the way it treats women is well known.
If the industry lauds her then fair enough.
I don't know her music to comment on it. I can only judge her by her presentation in the media and I certainly haven't seen anything on the way the media presents her to admire her.

Classy always starts with someone stick thin and white.

god forbid you have boobs a bum and rhythm and automatically everything becomes sexualised. It’s so boring.

taylor swift wears no more clothes than any other pop star. But cos she straight up and down no one even notices.

Beyonce’s fan base is overwhelmingly female.

I think that's a simplistic, reductive POV that ignores everything around it. If we reduce it to the level of But Beyonce Wants to Wear a Leotard, then the next generation of young female dancers wanting a more equal industry will not find anything better than the previous one.

But there we go. We think very differently about these things, obviously.