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To be absolutely terrified after watching latest episode of Uncanny

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Notafraidofthedark · 17/02/2025 18:57

Been catching up on iPlayer with final episode of Uncanny- the latest one about the shadow man in Crofton.

AIBU to be completely freaked out by this one? At first I thought it was the most easily explained until we found out his friends and family had all seen the shadow man around him.

don’t want to put any spoiler alerts in, but the post mortem podcast has seem even more scary revelations which could explain it, but are not reassuring in the slightest.

Can Anyone shed any light on what this shadow man can be? ( no pun intended!)

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Serpenting · 18/02/2025 08:40

Duckswaddle · 17/02/2025 20:19

Totally agree with @BananaSpanner
The stories are interesting, if melodramatic, and the majority of them are absolutely explainable when in context with some horrible circumstances, deaths, difficult family, poor mental health, environment…

Absolutely. I only saw a few minutes of this episode, but it was pretty clear the man interviewed had extremely fragile MH. Presumably those who believe in the supernatural would see this as the result of being haunted by a giant shadow man, but it seems far more likely to be the cause.

WorriedRelative · 18/02/2025 08:47

I've recently started the podcast and have been enjoying it. Especially room 611 and the follow up.

Didn't realise there was a tv show too, might have to take a look.

Ponoka7 · 18/02/2025 08:47

Amaranthasweetandfair · 18/02/2025 08:34

How would a ghost know if her killer was convicted or not? Genuinely wondering!

I don't know. A neighbour let slip who was the former tenant (murdered woman). One night, after work I went to go into the house. My Mum (5 mins walk away) had my children. It was like there was a hurricane in the house. So much pressure and like when you can't breath in windy weather. In my head? I heard 'get out, get out' the door upstairs slammed and I just went. My Mum had the News on and the man who was in court was found not guilty through lack of evidence. Locally everyone knows it was likely to have been him, but this is ten years later. When I went back to the house I said out loud how sorry I was. My adult DD used to talk to her which calmed things. My DD worked with her grandson. I don't mind if people think 'rubbish', that was my experience.

KimberleyClark · 18/02/2025 08:50

I felt uncomfortable about this one because I really do feel it’s a mental health thing.

BabyDream2025 · 18/02/2025 09:34

I listened to the podcast this morning and I was leaning towards poor mental health but his friends claim to have seen things too. I did wonder if they said they did to reassure him or maybe he gives off a negative energy due to his grief.

My aunt who is in her 60s has seen a magician her whole life. He is always there with her which is likely due to severe mental health problems.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 18/02/2025 09:39

Serpenting · 18/02/2025 08:40

Absolutely. I only saw a few minutes of this episode, but it was pretty clear the man interviewed had extremely fragile MH. Presumably those who believe in the supernatural would see this as the result of being haunted by a giant shadow man, but it seems far more likely to be the cause.

Yes I think you’re right. It’s no coincidence that they also talk about depression as “the black dog.”

scorpiogirly · 18/02/2025 09:42

If you like the uncanny podcast check out Into the Fog with Peter Laws on YouTube.

SabrinaThwaite · 18/02/2025 09:54

I liked the Luibeilt episodes - they did a Christmas ‘return to Luibeilt’ one last year.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-59698147

MalleusMaleficarumm · 18/02/2025 10:03

KimberleyClark · 18/02/2025 08:50

I felt uncomfortable about this one because I really do feel it’s a mental health thing.

Completely agree. I love uncanny but I think the poor man on this weeks episode underwent such trauma at losing his parents that he was having repeated MH crises and it all felt very sad. And as explained on several episodes by Ciaran O’keefe, the other witnesses can be explained away with the theory on power of suggestion.

NeedWineNow · 18/02/2025 10:06

I'm very much Team Believer when it comes to this sort of thing, and DH is Team Sceptic. I have to watch Uncanny during the day as it really gives me the shivers, even the opening theme music creeps me out. I haven't watched the Shadow Man episode yet....

ElsieMc · 18/02/2025 10:11

I believe this poor man saw the shadow man as a manifestation of his grief and loss. He seemed a fragile character. But I did not buy his friends corroboration. It was too casual and I believe an attempt to support their friend.

I recall at school, a pupil saying they saw a witch in a copse area and lots of kids gathering and a kind of hysteria spreading resulting in staff shutting the area. Not the same, but goes to suggestibility.

I found the Oxford student house very sad. The man essentially being ostracised and became a monk! Again, was it a strong belief in evil, they were all theology students.

Serpenting · 18/02/2025 10:34

ElsieMc · 18/02/2025 10:11

I believe this poor man saw the shadow man as a manifestation of his grief and loss. He seemed a fragile character. But I did not buy his friends corroboration. It was too casual and I believe an attempt to support their friend.

I recall at school, a pupil saying they saw a witch in a copse area and lots of kids gathering and a kind of hysteria spreading resulting in staff shutting the area. Not the same, but goes to suggestibility.

I found the Oxford student house very sad. The man essentially being ostracised and became a monk! Again, was it a strong belief in evil, they were all theology students.

I didn’t see that episode but I lived not far from where the house was (as described by other ex-Oxford friends who’d seen it), also near the railway line, and I imagine a lot of it was explicable because of trains.

I certainly once gave myself an enormous fright when I was thinking about my dead granddad (it was around his anniversary) when a picture fell right off the wall in front of me and smashed. When I calmed down, I realised it was likely to be slight judderings caused by passing trains, added to crappy student DIY!

Jollyhockeystickss · 18/02/2025 10:35

When I was 16 I would smell this disgusting smell of sulphur and it would come out of nowhere in my bedroom when the windows were closed, I knew it was supernatural and not good, then it would just disappear, it was strong and powerful, then age 26 I moved into a flat and it appeared again but this time I knew it was a man, he was very controlling and didn't like men coming into the flat, mild poltergeist activity, when I was 34 my daughter was born and she saw him from birth in her room and could describe him, when I moved out of the flat he stayed there, I dont know if it was the same thing or 2 seperate but the smell of sulphur(eggs smell horrible) means a spirit is there

CerealPosterHere · 18/02/2025 10:39

SabrinaThwaite · 18/02/2025 09:54

I liked the Luibeilt episodes - they did a Christmas ‘return to Luibeilt’ one last year.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-59698147

That was scary

Notafraidofthedark · 18/02/2025 10:43

Sodthesystem · 17/02/2025 22:07

This was a different episode to last night's though right? Or did I miss that bit?

Because I did wonder if he had dabbled when his dad died. Eg, a board or something. But it would make sense too if someone else did in the household.

In my own experience those things come from invitations. Accidental or otherwise. Boards, spells, placed with those kind of pasts etc..

Edited

It was only mentioned in the post mortem podcast after the show.

it was by far the creepiest update. His dad was being terrorised and hardly sleeping before he died.

I think they said he was using the ouija board a lot

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BabyDream2025 · 18/02/2025 10:51

In the Netflix show The Haunting of Hill House one of them is followed through life by a tall shadow man wearing a hat. It represented grief and trauma.

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/02/2025 10:54

Really enjoy Danny Robins’ programmes. I sent a personal experience to him but it wasn’t followed up. Presumably too short an incident. Still can’t explain it, a year or so on.

”“In early spring, 2024 I was enjoying a brisk, early morning walk and took in St. John’s Kirkyard in Perth, Scotland.
Beautiful day. Azure sky, crisp air and satisfyingly crunchy snow underfoot from a fresh fall overnight.
I smiled as I watched a collie dog rolling in the snow, his owner bade me good morning.
As I turned the final corner of the path, I saw a man sitting on a bench to my left. I wished him a good morning too and he replied, clear and strong, “y’alright”? I nodded, smiled and carried on. I don't know why but as I reached the gate I felt compelled to turn around. The bench was empty. The collie still played in the snow and his owner was in conversation on his phone. Again, I don’t know why but something troubled me and sent me back the way I had come.
It wasn’t until I had walked in reverse around the Kirkyard, left through the only gate and was heading home thinking of coffee when it occurred to me.
The only footprints in the snow were mine and those of a dog and his owner.

It chilled me then and it still chills me now.”

True, as it happened 🤷‍♀️

KimberleyClark · 18/02/2025 10:59

Serpenting · 18/02/2025 10:34

I didn’t see that episode but I lived not far from where the house was (as described by other ex-Oxford friends who’d seen it), also near the railway line, and I imagine a lot of it was explicable because of trains.

I certainly once gave myself an enormous fright when I was thinking about my dead granddad (it was around his anniversary) when a picture fell right off the wall in front of me and smashed. When I calmed down, I realised it was likely to be slight judderings caused by passing trains, added to crappy student DIY!

I remember once when I was a teen and alone in the house for the evening. I’d been watching something scary on tv. All of a sudden came this loud scratching noise right above my head. I was terrified, but plucked up the courage to go upstairs to investigate. Wen5 into my parents’ bedroom which was above the living room, and there was the dog scratching the carpet.

Serpenting · 18/02/2025 10:59

Notafraidofthedark · 18/02/2025 10:43

It was only mentioned in the post mortem podcast after the show.

it was by far the creepiest update. His dad was being terrorised and hardly sleeping before he died.

I think they said he was using the ouija board a lot

Definitely a genetic component to poor MH. Some twin studies suggest 35% heritability factor for serious depression and over 60% for schizipophrenia. When you add in environmental factors like the sudden loss of a parent at a young age, and that parent suffering poor MH, it’s hardly surprising Julian was so fragile, poor man.

It does make me wonder slightly about the ethics of these programmes. I’ve never watched the tv shows, but I listened to some of the Uncanny podcasts, and some of them certainly suggested a root of the ‘haunting’ in entirely non-supernatural circumstances. There was one about a woman who’d seen her dead friend in a park when she was very young, but it was pretty clear she had been a very traumatised young person, who’d left home very early and had to make her own way.

I do get that these are intended as light entertainment, but it feels sometimes as if they should have a psychiatrist present, not just a sceptic and a parapsychologist. Which would obviously not be then broadcast -able, I realise.

MindlessDaydream · 18/02/2025 12:33

YouDeserveBetterSoAskForIt · 17/02/2025 19:25

Any recommendations for when I want to become an insomniac again? 😁

🤭 The quality can be variable, but some of the 'true life' stories on Jim Harold's Campfire, Monsters among Us and True Scary Story are spooky AF. Try the best of episodes first.

There is also a doppelganger story on Astonishing Legends Arcapalooza part 2 still gives me chills. The other episodes I found particularly scary were the black eyed kids, Dylatov pass and shadow people.

I think the problem with Uncanny is how it's set up with the skeptic it takes me out if the story completely and I find it annoying. I don't really believe any of it either but I want too enjoy the spooky story without being pulled out of it too quickly.

Fencehedge · 18/02/2025 12:39

It's so formulaic "Bloody hell Ken / Steve / Dave"

"I've just stepped outside for a breather"

*Wander down the road in the little red coat to the empty pub for the umpteenth time to see the goth and the lecturer who are wearing the same clothes because they obviously filmed this all at once and nothing is a surprise

*Oops, people have started abusing the school nr Hollymount Farm, and trashing the graveyard, so we'd better say something

All entertainment TV is lies, remember that.

Sodthesystem · 18/02/2025 14:03

Notafraidofthedark · 18/02/2025 10:43

It was only mentioned in the post mortem podcast after the show.

it was by far the creepiest update. His dad was being terrorised and hardly sleeping before he died.

I think they said he was using the ouija board a lot

Thanks for that update, I did wonder. That ties it all together for me. I believe those things come from dark practices.

I wonder if the box for it was kept in the cabinet at one point. I'd been wondering if the cabinet was a dibbet box or something (used to trap spirits from séances in yonder years).

The poor mental health comments don't track imo. Other people saw it and heard it. And he literaly ran into it and was knocked over. And the woman came round told him exactly what he was seeing and that it had been in the family a while, which tracks if his dad had been into stuff.

2 and 2 makes 4 in my books. But people will always twist themselves in knots looking for reasons not to believe that there are things out there we can't explain. And some of those things, aren't very nice.

Not that the mind isn't a tricky thing sometimes of course.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 18/02/2025 14:16

Fencehedge · 18/02/2025 12:39

It's so formulaic "Bloody hell Ken / Steve / Dave"

"I've just stepped outside for a breather"

*Wander down the road in the little red coat to the empty pub for the umpteenth time to see the goth and the lecturer who are wearing the same clothes because they obviously filmed this all at once and nothing is a surprise

*Oops, people have started abusing the school nr Hollymount Farm, and trashing the graveyard, so we'd better say something

All entertainment TV is lies, remember that.

Yes. No different to Most Haunted if you ask me.

WhatterySquash · 18/02/2025 14:18

I love Uncanny, I like the skeptic/believer approach and the way Danny seems genuinely unsure about the possible explanations. I feel like the two "experts" have become quite repetitive and predictable though - especially poor old Ciaran always having to think up some highly unlikely sciency explanation and then getting pooh-poohed by Evelyn.

However this series has given me the willies so I've had to stop watching for now. I'm fine while watching it but then lie in bed gripped by terror that I'm going to see something and can't get to sleep 😱

And yes sometimes you worry about the people involved. And as the guest Ghosts actor Kiell said, why don't they leave? So many of the stories involve people experiencing scary things for months or years on end in the same place. I can understand if it's your workplace but if it's a rented house I'd be out of there.

Serpenting · 18/02/2025 17:06

Notafraidofthedark · 18/02/2025 10:43

It was only mentioned in the post mortem podcast after the show.

it was by far the creepiest update. His dad was being terrorised and hardly sleeping before he died.

I think they said he was using the ouija board a lot

Or his dad was suffering very poor MH, including psychotic episodes, and obsessive behaviour focused on the ouija board, before he died?

My own grandfather believed all his life that he’d been cursed when his first wife died in childbirth, leaving him with two young sons, at the same time as a run of poor crops and cattle deaths on the farm, which he eventually lost — he was hospitalised three times in the brutal conditions of the day. Two of his sons, one from each of his marriages, had catastrophically poor MH. And it’s evident in the next generation, too.

It seems fairly clear to me, piecing things together, that a land grabbing neighbour exploited a fragile man so he got the land cheap, but the poor MH, whether cause or effect, was certainly real, and is still evident in his descendants.

But of course the sceptic on a podcast can’t just start diagnosing a clearly vulnerable man, and Bridget couldn’t ask the obvious questions about the blood on the walls after the ‘exorcism’ — ‘Who else had a key? Are you certain no one was able to enter the house while the vicar was there before you locked up? Are any of your friends or acquaintances cruel enough to play a sadistic ‘prank’ like this?’

Because (despite only hearing the ‘Post-mortem’ podcast so I didn’t encounter any of the friends I believe were on the tv show), the thing that strikes me forcibly is that while Julian clearly found it comforting his friends said they’d experienced things too, the fact that this was widely known about in the village both opens up social contagion as an obvious factor, but also the possibility of cruel pranks.