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In light of another thread what is the ‘Worst thing daughter/son in-law has ever said or done to you?

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HaloTRI · 12/02/2025 15:17

There are always two sides to every story!

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JudgeJ · 13/02/2025 21:35

CurlewKate · 13/02/2025 14:41

I find it very strange that posters who are convinced all MILs are vile seem to forget that they will be MILs in the not too distant future!!

But they'll make marvellous MILs as they have all been on the receiving end of poor behaviour although as they don't think their sons are adult before 25 they will no doubt need to keep an eye on their 'little family'!

TheAmusedQuail · 13/02/2025 21:52

Since no one is really slagging the DIL's off, I'll offer a couple about me as a DIL. My MIL and I didn't get on.

Once she came to visit unannounced while my husband was out. The front door was locked and the curtains not open. So I sneaked downstairs, made sure the backdoor was also firmly locked and crept back upstairs. And stayed there until she'd gone.

Her house wasn't clean, so whenever I went over there (as infrequently as possible) I'd take my own bowl and cutlery to feed my DS with.

We were trying to find a house to buy and actually found one near my MIL. It was the first house we'd found I actually liked, but no way was I going to live near her.

She used to bitch about me to my SIL and about my SIL to me. And my SIL and I would get together and tell each other what she'd said about us.

Househunter2025 · 13/02/2025 22:01

HaloTRI · 13/02/2025 21:10

Yes, we considered all of that too.

Like you, we try and justify by different expectations.

I suppose we looked at it the other way, invited to visit but that it would be rude of us to leave without saying goodbye.

I must say my DC’s would know it was rude to invite someone to visit, with a two hour drive, then go to bed for most of the time they were there.

She wasn't asleep when we left, just didn't want to come down.
They didn't have any children at that point.
Her mum had a key to the house and did the cleaning.
DSS was the cook, if her mum didn't have food ready.

You are trying hard to make this about me, don't forget I am not the MiL!😂

You may not be the mil but you're the one complaining about your step Dil! I don't see her father in law moaning on here.

My mother would also find a nap rude if she was visiting. I agree it's not "etiquette" to do this, on the other hand, it's not that bad either, it's not harmful to you, you presumably came mainly to see your son anyway. It's probably a generational thing where the older generation thinks they deserve respect but the younger generation thinks they should be more flexible. When I was young and we visited grandparents we sat nicely on the sofa with our feet on the floor and waited to be spoken to. My kids are likely to be charging round my parents house causing chaos. On the other hand my kids absolutely love my parents whereas I never moved beyond stiff pleasantries with my grandparents. You can't have it both ways. Either you make yourself pleasant and easy going and they continue to invite you round. Or you make a big deal out of inconsequential things and criticise your son's wife and expect them both to do what you want, and they will not want to see you as much. The days are gone when you could command respect just because you are older.

Do you understand that by asking your son to wake up his wife you were criticising his wife and trying to come between them? That is exactly the kind of thing that will cause her to dislike you. Whatever you privately think of her behaviour, keep it to yourself and don't try to get your son on your side. It's not up to him to try to improve her manners to your standards.

Motnight · 13/02/2025 23:08

TheAmusedQuail · 13/02/2025 21:52

Since no one is really slagging the DIL's off, I'll offer a couple about me as a DIL. My MIL and I didn't get on.

Once she came to visit unannounced while my husband was out. The front door was locked and the curtains not open. So I sneaked downstairs, made sure the backdoor was also firmly locked and crept back upstairs. And stayed there until she'd gone.

Her house wasn't clean, so whenever I went over there (as infrequently as possible) I'd take my own bowl and cutlery to feed my DS with.

We were trying to find a house to buy and actually found one near my MIL. It was the first house we'd found I actually liked, but no way was I going to live near her.

She used to bitch about me to my SIL and about my SIL to me. And my SIL and I would get together and tell each other what she'd said about us.

@TheAmusedQuail I got told off for giving a DIL's point of view! Be careful!

HaloTRI · 14/02/2025 08:59

Househunter2025 · 13/02/2025 22:01

You may not be the mil but you're the one complaining about your step Dil! I don't see her father in law moaning on here.

My mother would also find a nap rude if she was visiting. I agree it's not "etiquette" to do this, on the other hand, it's not that bad either, it's not harmful to you, you presumably came mainly to see your son anyway. It's probably a generational thing where the older generation thinks they deserve respect but the younger generation thinks they should be more flexible. When I was young and we visited grandparents we sat nicely on the sofa with our feet on the floor and waited to be spoken to. My kids are likely to be charging round my parents house causing chaos. On the other hand my kids absolutely love my parents whereas I never moved beyond stiff pleasantries with my grandparents. You can't have it both ways. Either you make yourself pleasant and easy going and they continue to invite you round. Or you make a big deal out of inconsequential things and criticise your son's wife and expect them both to do what you want, and they will not want to see you as much. The days are gone when you could command respect just because you are older.

Do you understand that by asking your son to wake up his wife you were criticising his wife and trying to come between them? That is exactly the kind of thing that will cause her to dislike you. Whatever you privately think of her behaviour, keep it to yourself and don't try to get your son on your side. It's not up to him to try to improve her manners to your standards.

I don't see her father in law moaning on here.

He isn't on MN (here) 😂 but was disappointed at the time. Not something he expected to happen.

I go back to ‘differences in expectation’. Yes we hoped that after driving for two hours to see DiL and SDS for the day, that we would spend time together before we drove home ( another two hours), rather than her going up to bed, whilst we were there. We left at 17.00, it isn't as if it were late.

I don't think that is an out of the ordinary view to want to share some time, when we had been invited, arrangements made and we had travelled over.

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HaloTRI · 14/02/2025 09:01

Motnight · 13/02/2025 23:08

@TheAmusedQuail I got told off for giving a DIL's point of view! Be careful!

Absolutely (and @TheAmusedQuail ). You have plenty of MiL threads to contribute to.😂

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MonetWaterlilies · 15/02/2025 10:32

'Disapointed' in your DIL being asleep.

That's so passive aggressive.

HaloTRI · 17/02/2025 19:42

MonetWaterlilies · 15/02/2025 10:32

'Disapointed' in your DIL being asleep.

That's so passive aggressive.

So you would make a 4-5 hour round trip, for the day, to spend time with family and would be fine that your family member had gone to bed for the afternoon.

I'm pleased I have brought my children up with good manners.

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MonetWaterlilies · 17/02/2025 20:47

HaloTRI · 17/02/2025 19:42

So you would make a 4-5 hour round trip, for the day, to spend time with family and would be fine that your family member had gone to bed for the afternoon.

I'm pleased I have brought my children up with good manners.

If that family member had a migraine, bad period pain or was just exhausted then yes, I would be sympathetic and absolutely fine with it.

I would feel terrible if I thought that someone that dragged themselves out of bed just because I was visiting

All this talk of 'good manners' makes you sound like you have very old fashioned values. And that you value yourself and your wishes above the comfort of other people.

You are really not coming across well here.

HaloTRI · 17/02/2025 20:59

MonetWaterlilies · 17/02/2025 20:47

If that family member had a migraine, bad period pain or was just exhausted then yes, I would be sympathetic and absolutely fine with it.

I would feel terrible if I thought that someone that dragged themselves out of bed just because I was visiting

All this talk of 'good manners' makes you sound like you have very old fashioned values. And that you value yourself and your wishes above the comfort of other people.

You are really not coming across well here.

If that family member had a migraine, bad period pain or was just exhausted then yes, I would be sympathetic and absolutely fine with it.
I would feel terrible if I thought that someone that dragged themselves out of bed just because I was visiting

And so would I...but she didn’t.

And I'm not coming across well…because we expect good manners….right oh…😆

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pikkumyy77 · 18/02/2025 03:21

Well you don’t know why she went to bed. You think it was because of something free floating and ill defined—miasma or disrespect—but if she took to her bed she either had a perfectly good reason or she really dislikes you snd was refusing to host you.

mrschocolatte · 18/02/2025 05:39

My MIL and I were having a conversation a few months ago about things we had said and done to each other over the years that we had been hurt by. So I thought I would share what she told me was an awful thing I said to her.
About 15 years ago DH and I went on holiday to Cornwall for a week. It was a one bed apartment with a sofa bed in the lounge. For some mad reason I invited PILs to come down and spend a few days with us. They never seemed to go anywhere themselves and had always wanted to visit that part of the world so my younger and eager to please self thought it would be a great idea for them to come and stay with us. I was really excited when they arrived. PILs had loads of questions about the place and things we had done on our first few days. I cooked dinner that night with MIL watching on asking me questions constantly about what I was doing and why. After I finished cooking and dished up MIL told me she didn’t like what I had cooked. That’s fine, if a little annoying.
On the second day we took them to The Eden Project. And the questions kept on coming. The one that made my eyes pop and fizzle was why a group of people had a different colour sticker on their jackets to us. In the car back to the apartment the questions kept on coming, just a constant stream of ‘why, why’ why’ and I snapped. I retorted back to MIL it was like having a pair of kids in the back of the car. Silence ensued. We did talk about other things that night but the next morning a visibly upset MIL told us she and FIL were heading home early as they needed to get back. I never questioned it, because I was genuinely happy for them to go at this point. In 15 years we have never spoken about that holiday until our recent conversation and MIL told me that I had upset her so much with my retort she couldn’t stay with us any longer and cried all the way home back to London.

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