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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

In light of another thread what is the ‘Worst thing daughter/son in-law has ever said or done to you?

137 replies

HaloTRI · 12/02/2025 15:17

There are always two sides to every story!

OP posts:
UndermyShoeJoe · 13/02/2025 15:41

It’s because it just doesn’t register. I presume most people who offer a coffee or tea do so as they are also about to fetch themselves one no?

So if I was going to go grab a glass of water or juice I’d offer but I guess again since I don’t drink hot drinks I possibly go and get a drink less often. So I’ll have a glass of water and sip from it when I pass it in the kitchen. I won’t be sat on the sofa and think of I must go make a glass of water. If it’s a hot day and I’m going to grab a can of cola from the fridge I’d ask if anyone wants one.

Dh actually texts me if we have workmen round to remind me otherwise I’d just let them crack on with their job while I’m doing mine.

pikkumyy77 · 13/02/2025 15:45

CurlewKate · 13/02/2025 14:41

I find it very strange that posters who are convinced all MILs are vile seem to forget that they will be MILs in the not too distant future!!

This is commonly said on mumsnet but its such a ridiculous point. Posters are very well aware that they will be (may be) MIL at some point and frequently say that they hope not to be overbearing or rude or excluding to their future DIL/SIL.

Very few people, that I can see, who don’t have a personality disorder to start with choose conflict with their inlaws. But its really obvious that families have a hard time negotiating absorbing a stranger, from another family/culture/village into themselves absent strong cultural rules about how that is to happen and how superior and subordinate family members are to act.

When I worked as an anthropologist in a rural, caste based, community, structured around patriarchal principles of land ownership, it was an obvious goal of marriage strategies to preferentially marry only biddable young women from the right caste into the family so that they would “know their place” and accept the family/caste rules of precedence, order, purity and pollution.

The modern mumsnet stories of MIL/DIL conflict generally resolve themselves into rather typical conflicts over precedence and service between older and younger generations where modern adult women (DIL) have education, work, and family duties which make them less likely to fuss over or defer to their husbands parents. If husband comes from divorced parents they may be expected to flatter and care for two or more parental units and negotiate conflicts between FIL/exMIL/new partners that their own DH can’t or won’t manage.

Rather than looking at this situation as a clash of good or evil personalities—though it may look that way from the inside—I tend to look at it as one of a mismatch of expectations about who makes family “fit and function “ after the first intimacy of the nuclear family.

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 15:45

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/02/2025 15:41

It’s because it just doesn’t register. I presume most people who offer a coffee or tea do so as they are also about to fetch themselves one no?

So if I was going to go grab a glass of water or juice I’d offer but I guess again since I don’t drink hot drinks I possibly go and get a drink less often. So I’ll have a glass of water and sip from it when I pass it in the kitchen. I won’t be sat on the sofa and think of I must go make a glass of water. If it’s a hot day and I’m going to grab a can of cola from the fridge I’d ask if anyone wants one.

Dh actually texts me if we have workmen round to remind me otherwise I’d just let them crack on with their job while I’m doing mine.

Maybe you need to think a little about others.
Do you have children? Or do you not offer them a drink unless you're having one?

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/02/2025 15:48

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 15:45

Maybe you need to think a little about others.
Do you have children? Or do you not offer them a drink unless you're having one?

Edited

My children are all old enough to get a drink when they are thirsty or ask for one. Obviously when they were toddlers a sippy cup was always to hand.

When we have bbq’s we always have jugs of juices out for people, a fridge full of cans and beers and cold wine. Feel free to help your self.

HomeTheatreSystem · 13/02/2025 15:50

LeCygneNoir · 13/02/2025 15:02

@HomeTheatreSystem she may simply just want to alienate the PIL in preference of her own family. Which is awful, but certainly happens.

Sad to say but it does look like that's the case.

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 15:52

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/02/2025 15:48

My children are all old enough to get a drink when they are thirsty or ask for one. Obviously when they were toddlers a sippy cup was always to hand.

When we have bbq’s we always have jugs of juices out for people, a fridge full of cans and beers and cold wine. Feel free to help your self.

Fair enough.
If I was your MIL I would just accept that’s how you do things and ask "May I have a cup of tea?"
You can see how there are so many conflicts though, it seems the dynamic between MIL/ DIL has a tendency to make mountains out of mole hills.

lovingmememe · 13/02/2025 15:53

Nothing to add my son inlaw to be is lovely.
He loves my son very much and he gets on with me we have a right laugh.
Me and his mum are are helping with their wedding planning at the moment we all get on like a house on fire.

lovingmememe · 13/02/2025 15:53

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BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 15:54

HomeTheatreSystem · 13/02/2025 15:50

Sad to say but it does look like that's the case.

If so, and just leave them to get on with it. I'm hoping I'll have my own life and at least you aren't being used for childcare as everyone seems to be so afraid off.

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/02/2025 15:54

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 15:52

Fair enough.
If I was your MIL I would just accept that’s how you do things and ask "May I have a cup of tea?"
You can see how there are so many conflicts though, it seems the dynamic between MIL/ DIL has a tendency to make mountains out of mole hills.

Oh she won’t ask for one either. Dh even told her just ask or go make one. She wants to be hosted without being invited.

So I don’t offer and she won’t ask and she fumes.

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 15:58

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/02/2025 15:54

Oh she won’t ask for one either. Dh even told her just ask or go make one. She wants to be hosted without being invited.

So I don’t offer and she won’t ask and she fumes.

Yes, that’s ridiculous. What can you do??
It's probably down to a deep seated sense of insecurity, being usurped by you from her matriarchal throne and she is expressing it passive aggressively!!

HomeTheatreSystem · 13/02/2025 15:59

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 15:54

If so, and just leave them to get on with it. I'm hoping I'll have my own life and at least you aren't being used for childcare as everyone seems to be so afraid off.

You say that but there's a grandchild here who the GF, OP's DH would like to be close to. The DIL has him by the short and curlys.

If, however, you opt to make a mystery out of someone who would otherwise be a close relative, it may well come back to bite you later in life

pictoosh · 13/02/2025 16:00

There are just as many awful dils as mils.
Some of the mil threads on here are written by awful dils as well as replied to by them.

LeCygneNoir · 13/02/2025 16:01

Well @UndermyShoeJoe it just shows how easy it is for relationships to go wrong because we have different expectations. In my world, not offering a guest a drink is rude. And asking to help yourself / or just helping yourself is also rude. But it’s clearly not rude in your world, but maybe your MIL can’t get past it? Very sad that inconsequential things cause so much friction.

coronafiona · 13/02/2025 16:01

My MIL was consistently horrible to her son. I neve liked her she was a negative mood hoover, perpetually depressed and lazy but would do nothing about it. I tried to get ion with her but ended up just tolerating it and ignoring her phoning us to yell at him down the phone, tell him he was unwelcome in her house etc. he was so upset when she died because she was never very nice to him and it was then too late to make amends. I picked up the pieces as usual. I have learned to never, ever behave that way to my children although I am not an MIL yet.

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/02/2025 16:05

LeCygneNoir · 13/02/2025 16:01

Well @UndermyShoeJoe it just shows how easy it is for relationships to go wrong because we have different expectations. In my world, not offering a guest a drink is rude. And asking to help yourself / or just helping yourself is also rude. But it’s clearly not rude in your world, but maybe your MIL can’t get past it? Very sad that inconsequential things cause so much friction.

But I do offer drinks. Just I don’t go oh do you want a tea because I’m putting the kettle on.

If I’m going to get a water and ask would you like a water or a cola.

Funnily enough at mils home, she offers tea and coffee and if you want anything else be that a j20 or a vodka it’s help yourself you know where the fridge / sprit cupboard is.

EmmaMaria · 13/02/2025 16:05

Suimai · 12/02/2025 20:13

I think it goes to show that it is generally the in-laws overstepping and causing the issues. Though your example is clearly very unpleasant, didn’t any of you point out to your son how nasty that was for you?

Or possibly that the older people are more tolerant and/or mature?

But actually I suspect it has more to do with the nasty attitudes on MN and the fact that the "in-laws" are one of the groups everyone loves to hate, so it is pointless saying anything. After all, it only took a half dozen posts for the subject to suddenly become "in-law hatred" again.

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 16:07

HomeTheatreSystem · 13/02/2025 15:59

You say that but there's a grandchild here who the GF, OP's DH would like to be close to. The DIL has him by the short and curlys.

If, however, you opt to make a mystery out of someone who would otherwise be a close relative, it may well come back to bite you later in life

Apologies but what does this mean
....If, however, you opt to make a mystery out of someone who would otherwise be a close relative, it may well come back to bite you later in life

LeCygneNoir · 13/02/2025 16:08

@UndermyShoeJoe sounds like you can’t win. Weird hill for her to pick to die on! 🫣

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 16:09

LeCygneNoir · 13/02/2025 16:01

Well @UndermyShoeJoe it just shows how easy it is for relationships to go wrong because we have different expectations. In my world, not offering a guest a drink is rude. And asking to help yourself / or just helping yourself is also rude. But it’s clearly not rude in your world, but maybe your MIL can’t get past it? Very sad that inconsequential things cause so much friction.

Yes I agree, my MIL never take off her shoes when she visits, which I think is rude. But I have come to just let it go, and try and find the things we have in common ...not the things we don't.

MonetWaterlilies · 13/02/2025 16:11

HaloTRI · 12/02/2025 19:10

No, we arrived at the agreed time, text them along the way too so that they knew when we would be arriving. They obviously knew we had a long drive. I wouldn't care, we sat ages when we arrived, politely awaiting the good ( my DH eating his own hands) before he even asked his son, quietly, when we would be eating!

No real back story. We were navigating different expectations within families (DiL going to bed one afternoon when we visited so we didn't see her, DiL the only one not to join the family for breakfast when we all stayed in a house together) but nothing major. We are quite easy going and accept that different families have different expectations. These are not necessarily wrong ( apart from eating the party food before we arrived and sending us to the shop…😉).

They had invited us to the ‘birthday’.

I still can't believe how quiet it is on here, given that ‘in-laws’ get such bad press. 😂

Maybe she was ill?

I mean on the occasion that she went to bed in the afternoon.

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/02/2025 16:12

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 16:09

Yes I agree, my MIL never take off her shoes when she visits, which I think is rude. But I have come to just let it go, and try and find the things we have in common ...not the things we don't.

Edited

Don’t get started on shoes. Her house it’s off and we all take them off before the front door even closes.

My house she won’t take hers off. Will walk though the entire downstairs, then need a cigarette and wonder the entire garden flicking her fag but then back in still shoes on.

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 16:12

EmmaMaria · 13/02/2025 16:05

Or possibly that the older people are more tolerant and/or mature?

But actually I suspect it has more to do with the nasty attitudes on MN and the fact that the "in-laws" are one of the groups everyone loves to hate, so it is pointless saying anything. After all, it only took a half dozen posts for the subject to suddenly become "in-law hatred" again.

My In-laws and I have clashed. But I have put it all aside, because they love my children and treat them well. So all the rest is just noise.
I think if the in-laws don't treat the kids well, then yes maybe the deserve the vitriol

pikkumyy77 · 13/02/2025 16:13

OP asked first examples—I certainly can’t give an example of awful DILs because my two DD’s aren’t married yet. I love my dd’s current gf though and love to have her over and think very highly of her.

I disliked my MIL very much—she was a very controlling, difficult, critical person who alienated her own dd’s and both sons long before I got there. I was unable to mend what she had already broken. Not because she was in a MIL position but because she didn’t know how to be a good mother or colleague to another adult woman. So though I dealt with her graciously, as one might with a cranky elderly neighbor, i wasn’t able to make her happy. I certainly waited on her hand and foot when she was at my house. But she was put off by the multiple course meals I cooked for her.

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 16:14

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/02/2025 16:12

Don’t get started on shoes. Her house it’s off and we all take them off before the front door even closes.

My house she won’t take hers off. Will walk though the entire downstairs, then need a cigarette and wonder the entire garden flicking her fag but then back in still shoes on.

Definitely some issues there with your MIL. Difficult to navigate if she is hell bent on being difficult!

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