To ask how we stop dangerous cyclists

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Why do the most dangerous ones wear those stupid little headcams too? YOU'RE the problem, guy.

It’s funny, during my CBT my instructor was very clear with assume all vehicles are out to kill you…it seems a daft sentiment but actually it’s designed to make you consider how vulnerable you are on a motorbike.

If more cyclist’s had the same approach then I think it would be better, but there does seem to be an awful lot of cyclists who believe the road belongs to them and only them and everyone should make way for them.

The city I live in has spent millions putting bicycle lanes in and yet you still get the arrogant cyclists on the road-why willingly put yourself in the dangerous path when there is a safe place for you to be?

Quite. Im surprised that people are still complaining about cyclists being two abreast or in the middle of the lane. It's safer for cyclists and they are more vulnerable than car users so should be kept safe.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/campaigning/article/20220127-Highway-Code-%E2%80%93-Riding-two-abreast-0

On Anglia News last week they were talking about how mobility scooter users should have to undergo tests and stricter rules for them
Not one mention of these electric bikes or scooters. Yeah lets go for the low hanging fruit as usual.

If you can't stop for someone stepping into the road you are going too fast.

You would but motorist have to watch out for the more vulnerable cyclists and cyclists SHOULD take care near pedestrians who are even more vulnerable. . So many go too fast, through red lights at pedestrian crossings and have an outraged sense of superiority cos they are saving the planet.

I regularly walk along a shared path, which is clearly marked with a side for bikes and a side for pedestrians (markings in the path and regular signs). Barely any of the cyclists pay the slightest bit of attention, and often cycle aggressively close to pedestrians in order to (I assume) intimidate.

Maybe the cyclists should be pedestrian aware (and read the Highway Code about priority of road users and the use of shared paths!).

How do you know they can hear you? Do you have some sort of deaf person detector? Can you spot airpods in someone's ears from behind when they have long hair/wearing a hat?

Electric scooters are illegal to ride on public roads and footpaths and can only be used legally on private land.
Electric bikes are all sorts of legal weirdness, from pedal assist to electric motorbikes and off road bikes/dirt bikes. I'm not sure that anybody knows what is going on with any of them as there are so many types..

What if they're deaf? Fucking hell. 🙄

I have a friend who trains lorry drivers to be aware of cyclists by taking them out the road on bikes. They need this training to be eligible to work for certain contractors. I thought this seemed a good initiative and agree with you that a lot of road users would benefit from something similar.

People should be allowed to walk in peace without the fear of bikes crashing up their backside.

You all want your cake and to eat it too. Free reign of the roads, your own designated lanes and cycle paths in parks. Bloody sick of you all!

Til “catching a jacket” doesn’t go the way you intend, and that person is 60+, falls and has a life changing hip injury because you seem to think you need to teach them a lesson.

You are the reason that pedestrians and drivers alike loathe cyclists.

And problems come in different sizes.

Personally I'd rather concentrate on stopping the 5 deaths a day (not to mention the 80 also seriously injured) caused by motorists than a few minor injuries a year caused by cyclists.

Segregated cycle lanes that join up properly.
Regulate high powered electric bikes and enforce it.
Awareness campaign for everyone (pedestrian/cyclist/motorist) to be more considerate of each other.

I'm with PP on the shared paths. Please, just walk to one side if you're a solo pedestrian.

I got threatened by a car driver because he did a dangerous overtake of me on a corner and had to swerve to avoid a car coming the opposite way and break to avoid a car at temporary traffic lights. He hit the kerb. This was all my fault for being a cyclist, not his utterly shit driving, so he told me he'd smash my face in.

Another cyclist shouted abuse at me and my DP when we were cycling two abreast on an empty and very wide road.

But yeah, I cycle safely, stop at red lights, am mindful of pedestrians on shared use paths, and I even have insurance.

I am also a car driver and a pedestrian so I am aware of all things on the road. And none of my journeys are more important than the safety of others. Which is what many car drivers seem to forget.

E scooters and those illegal electric bikes are another problem altogether and more should be done about those, weaving in and out of traffic, on and off pavements, without looking. They must think they're invincible.

And can cyclists also please stick to one side? The side that is marked and signposted? That would be bloody lovely.

I appreciate that motorists can be awful to cyclists (although sometimes deserved!) but many cyclists in Central London are incredibly dangerous. They don't stop at red lights and people who are crossing (perfectly legally with a green man showing) are regularly nearly hit. That needs to be clamped down on.

I think we all tar them with the same brush, but in reality the mountain bikers are all good, they pull out of the way, they smile....
Roadies are the vermin, the overflowings of the cesspit, the step below traffic wardens, the mould on the bread, the crumbs in the jam etc. They ride in clumps along country lanes and smaller roads, you follow them for miles whilst they ignorantly refuse to let you pass, and then undertake the queue of traffic to get to the front of the lights... and they swear and raise fingers at you.
Why do we put up with them?

I would think that's obvious, the ones I use don't have any dividing line though.

Well, you would think that. But the segregated shared path I walk on is like the Wild West! I sometimes get brave and tell cyclists they're on the wrong side, but I'm usually met with a mouthful of abuse.

If they're so stupid as to not be able to read signs and markings, I'm not sure they should be allowed out, tbh!

Soon the mamil will split off into its own lineage and no longer be able to breed.

No, just be aware of their surroundings and other people using the space 🙄

. . . because many of the cycle lanes are badly maintained with overhanging trees and cracks, and you are continually having to giveway where they bisect side roads. On the road you just keep going as it's the main roads priority. That's why.

Maybe give it some thought . . ..

Yeah let’s talk about cyclists on footpaths going at 20 30 mph down hill that’s always fun when your walking slowly along with your dog.

You can very easily contact the council and get them to cut over hanging branches. I did.