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In laws coming round

82 replies

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 19:50

Okay, where to start. A few years ago I sent a very polite message to my mother in law asking her to stop turning up unannounced at our home. She'd caught us mid movie day with the kid, caught me in a state of undress, interrupted us being intimate etc. plus I'm a grown woman with my own family and I don't enjoy entertaining others for a couple of hours with no notice.

Anyway, since then, she's just stopped coming around all together. All I'd asked for was a quick text saying "thinking of coming over in 10, are you about?"
She thinks this is unreasonable and has talked about behind my back to the extended family but never raised it with me, she just didn't reply and stopped coming over. My partner had tried to deal with it first a few times but she brushed him off and he was taking too long to put his foot down, so I sent the text.

MIL and I get along perfectly well even after the text, although it obviously upset her.

Skip forward a few years and we've got two more kids, she and her husband still don't bother. My partner is upset by this for obvious reasons.

We lost a pregnancy in September and his Mum and brother were less than supportive, let's leave that there. It's left me with quite a sore spot towards them and no apologies from them despite me trying to smooth things over from my end, it hasn't been reciprocated, just more ignoring the situation and pretending it's all normal.

So that's the background.

Over the last few kids birthdays and Christmas there's been a row between my partner and I.

My partner says he feels there's a rift between him and his family and they don't see the kids, I understand this, but I don't feel that's my issue to sort. I feel he should arrange visits with his family. I used to arrange things with his family but frankly, since the incidents mentioned during the miscarriage I'm taking a back seat, I told him this and he's fully supportive of that.
I will still go and be cordial during these visits, but I just won't sort them out.

Because of this we're seeing his family less than ever.

It's our child's birthday tomorrow, he's having a friend over all day, going out to the arcades and having a sleepover.

Partners sister just text, the night before, saying when shall we all come over tomorrow.

I'll admit I didn't have the most delicate reaction. This happens regularly on events, like Christmas and the kids birthdays. I've made plans, the child is looking forward to said plans, then a bomb drops the night before/day of event, saying we're all descending, what time (not from MIL of course, texting to ask to come around is beneath her)

So I basically say, why are we putting your family ahead of our kids? It's their birthday, why am I going to interrupt their fun for an hour or two just because your family insist on seeing him that day?
Can't they come the following day in the afternoon when we're all free and he can see them? Otherwise we're either ruining his birthday expectations or we're being rude and he's not sitting with them.

That is all they do aswell, sit and expect cups of tea while speaking about things in their own lives. I don't think his parents have once asked how we are/how the kids are. So no fun for a kid.

Plus, our son's sleepover friend barely knows us, let alone 4 other people and 2 small children who will suddenly be in the house. I don't think that's fair, they will feel, at best, uncomfortable.

If this has been mentioned and arranged in advance then I could have carved out some time. Admittedly, since stepping back from organising I've let them take a back seat in my head and didn't consider making the time for them, which is on me. I also feel that should have been considered by my partner and he shouldn't be giving me grief about it now though.....

So AIBU to ask my partner to sort seeing his family around our family plans rather than rearrange our plans, last minute, to suit them?
I feel like he's putting them above anyone in our own home because he didn't want to be the bad guy...... But he doesn't realise he's then putting his own family a very definite second place.

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outerspacepotato · 07/02/2025 20:01

Your husband can't be bothered to make arrangements for family time with his side but whines about a rift because you won't do it?

Okeydokiethen.

He can get off his ass and make plans when you are all free. He can stop the whining because he has to do something when he'd rather be lazy and have you do it.

Has he ever addressed his mom just rudely rocking on up no invite nothing? If he wouldn't handle it, then you did. Thumbs up.

Do not rearrange your kid's birthdays when he can't be bothered until they contact him last minute.

NewHeaven · 07/02/2025 20:07

Drop a text back saying dc is going out on the day of his birthday with his friends.
However they're welcome to pop in for coffee and cake the day after to celebrate with him. Take control of the situation so it goes your way.

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 20:17

NewHeaven · 07/02/2025 20:07

Drop a text back saying dc is going out on the day of his birthday with his friends.
However they're welcome to pop in for coffee and cake the day after to celebrate with him. Take control of the situation so it goes your way.

Edited

I would absolutely do this, however, I'd prefer my partner to do it so we show some solidarity to the outside world and I'm not the big bad wolf all the time.

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Velvian · 07/02/2025 20:18

Could they come for a cup of tea in the morning before the birthday plans start?

My DH is the same, he won't ever make plans to see his family, so when the ILs message I do engage so that I have some control and it fits in with other plans.

Alternatively you could spin it like "we'd really love it if you could come over Sunday to have a proper birthday celebration together, X has a friend over tomorrow, so will be distracted."

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 20:19

Velvian · 07/02/2025 20:18

Could they come for a cup of tea in the morning before the birthday plans start?

My DH is the same, he won't ever make plans to see his family, so when the ILs message I do engage so that I have some control and it fits in with other plans.

Alternatively you could spin it like "we'd really love it if you could come over Sunday to have a proper birthday celebration together, X has a friend over tomorrow, so will be distracted."

We have plans all day, we're viewing a house and then walking the dog. I don't really want the family doing different things on a birthday and in different places. I could have arranged that given enough time though.

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Vaxtable · 07/02/2025 20:21

Just leave it with your partner to sort, and if he doesn’t, well tough

CKN · 07/02/2025 20:21

Oh FFS the drama - when did it become necessary for family to make appointments to visit. Do you ever bring your children over to their grandparents houses? Your poor partner is caught between you and his parents and both you and his parents locking horns. There has to be give and take in families and the ones that are losing out are the kids.

Id love to be a fly on the wall listening to the other side of the story 🙄
Lifes too short for trivial drama

Stealer · 07/02/2025 20:25

CKN · 07/02/2025 20:21

Oh FFS the drama - when did it become necessary for family to make appointments to visit. Do you ever bring your children over to their grandparents houses? Your poor partner is caught between you and his parents and both you and his parents locking horns. There has to be give and take in families and the ones that are losing out are the kids.

Id love to be a fly on the wall listening to the other side of the story 🙄
Lifes too short for trivial drama

All of this.

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 20:27

CKN · 07/02/2025 20:21

Oh FFS the drama - when did it become necessary for family to make appointments to visit. Do you ever bring your children over to their grandparents houses? Your poor partner is caught between you and his parents and both you and his parents locking horns. There has to be give and take in families and the ones that are losing out are the kids.

Id love to be a fly on the wall listening to the other side of the story 🙄
Lifes too short for trivial drama

There isn't really another side to be honest, we've asked for an explanation for their behaviour and not had one. My partner is in full agreement his family were awful to us both during a terrible time and we've been the only ones trying to repair that bond, they've made no effort.
I take my kids to see my family, which is what we're doing on Sunday, I've arranged it well in advance.
I get some people don't mind people just turning up but I would have issue if my own mum did that, you have to respect other people's household preferences. Not everyone is the same.
Yes, the only time or kids are those grandparents is at their house if we go there our if we expressly invite them here. Which used to be me but now I'm not so proactive with it.
I'd like to add, at no point have we locked horns. They've been awful, I've tried to smooth it over for his sake, they were awful again. My partner agrees with this.

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Nationsss · 07/02/2025 20:30

Tell your partner to send the text that they are welcome at another time.
Then forget about it.
Stick to taking the back seat on this.

The happiest women I know NEVER got involved in thankless wife work.
They stuck firmly to your family, you sort, from the get go...no confusion at all.

HolyPeaches · 07/02/2025 20:36

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 20:19

We have plans all day, we're viewing a house and then walking the dog. I don't really want the family doing different things on a birthday and in different places. I could have arranged that given enough time though.

Can you not walk the dog alone and your H stays home with kids whilst his family pop over?

SaltyPig · 07/02/2025 20:37

I think the status quo suits you just fine, remember they're the DC's family too. They can't come Sunday because you're walking the dog??

Chunkychips23 · 07/02/2025 20:41

You’ve already made plans. I’m sure your child is very much looking forward to what’s been planned and it wouldn’t be fair to them to change things because others left things until last minute. Your DH just needs to let them know it’s not possible and suggest another day. He’s not being rude to them, they’ve literally decided the night before that they want to come over. Your child’s birthday isn’t a surprise. I’m sure they’re well aware of what date it is.

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 20:49

SaltyPig · 07/02/2025 20:37

I think the status quo suits you just fine, remember they're the DC's family too. They can't come Sunday because you're walking the dog??

No, I've suggested they come Sunday. After we've come back from visiting my family. So all family are seen the same day and our son's birthday is as is planned already. The dog walk is a short time and then we're going out. I think it would be meet with more agro to ask them to come and leave at a certain time. They are mostly 30-40 mins late when we give them a time and then stay until they've got to go and do their own things.

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Fargo79 · 07/02/2025 20:49

CKN · 07/02/2025 20:21

Oh FFS the drama - when did it become necessary for family to make appointments to visit. Do you ever bring your children over to their grandparents houses? Your poor partner is caught between you and his parents and both you and his parents locking horns. There has to be give and take in families and the ones that are losing out are the kids.

Id love to be a fly on the wall listening to the other side of the story 🙄
Lifes too short for trivial drama

Nah. I'm with OP. I'm a grown woman and I want to be able to relax in my own home. I want to wear whatever I want. Have sex with my husband in the middle of the day if I want. Lie on the sofa on my day off and watch crap movies and eat custard creams. I do not want in-laws turning up unannounced and getting the hump if the door isn't answered because "we know you're in - the lights are on and the car is on the drive". I'm assuming since OP says they've interrupted her and her DH having sex and in a state of undress, this woman is actually letting herself into the house.

No thank you.

It is very reasonable to ask for a quick text beforehand to check OP and family are free before coming over. It's OK to value your privacy. The drama is coming from MIL who has thrown her toys out of the pram and now refuses to visit at all. What an overreaction.

Redfred00 · 07/02/2025 20:50

I don't ever just turn up anywhere. I have a key for my parents and my inlaws and wouldn't just pop round. I call first and check it's convenient. I also ring the doorbell. I wouldn't use my key if they are home. I had a aunty that would just pop over. I told her I was sorry. I was on my way out and to call first so she doesn't have a wasted journey. It took 3 wasted journeys for her to get the message.

If your H wants your kids to have a closer relationship he needs to facilitate that. I absolutely love my inlaws but H is responsible for their present buying and visit organisations.

I wouldn't rearrange my plans so last minute. They can come on Sunday if they want to visit DC. Even that adds extra pressure to your weekend. If I have people coming I cleam before they come, even though my house is actually very clean, and I get extra bits in to cater for people.

JustMyView13 · 07/02/2025 20:56

Your partner is never changing so you’re gonna have to manage this situation.
I don’t understand why the in laws have to inflict themselves on you rather than just communicating to find a mutually convenient time.
How people can assume you’re sat at home patiently awaiting their visit, is beyond me.

OpenFox · 07/02/2025 21:02

Mountain out of a mole hill.

You've got plans all day already, so just get your DH to tell them that and invite them on Sunday for tea and cake instead. Give them a time to turn up. Your DH can go sort a cake out.

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 21:04

JustMyView13 · 07/02/2025 20:56

Your partner is never changing so you’re gonna have to manage this situation.
I don’t understand why the in laws have to inflict themselves on you rather than just communicating to find a mutually convenient time.
How people can assume you’re sat at home patiently awaiting their visit, is beyond me.

Yeah exactly, I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to adjust to that either because, 1. I don't like it and I don't want to, and 2. I've never had this my whole life with my own family, they would never, which is why I don't like it probably.
All my partners siblings and their partners hate the unannounced arrivals too but no-one has had the gumption to say it.

And all that aside, I'm not feeling particularly comfortable with them after all the upset they started last year and have just ignored since, it's not like I'm currently feeling massively keen on a get together.

However, I still hosted the whole family on Christmas eve, put on food and drink, they brought nothing, drank our drink and we didn't even get a thank you. So...... I'm out. I'll be present and pleasant, but that's me done.

Thanks for all the opinions, even those that didn't side with my view, it's good to see the other side, even if it was, at times, delivered a bit aggressively.

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MySpringBreath · 07/02/2025 21:06

You might be making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. Just reply to these messages saying tomorrow doesn't work for us as we have plans, I will ask DH to check the calendar and get back to you with some dates we can meet. Then ask DH to do that. Then sit back and wait for him to sort it out.

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 21:06

OpenFox · 07/02/2025 21:02

Mountain out of a mole hill.

You've got plans all day already, so just get your DH to tell them that and invite them on Sunday for tea and cake instead. Give them a time to turn up. Your DH can go sort a cake out.

Not my mountain or my molehill. This is what I suggested. I didn't think it was a big deal. He really did. That's where I'm trying to see if I'm in the wrong really.

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Bigearringsbigsmile · 07/02/2025 21:07

You sound like a right piece of work. Your poor dh

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 21:10

Bigearringsbigsmile · 07/02/2025 21:07

You sound like a right piece of work. Your poor dh

What a horrid thing to say. What would you have done in the same situation? I could explain what they did during the miscarriage but frankly I don't want to relive it. Just trust that it was bloody awful and my poor partner agrees with me.

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Chunkychips23 · 07/02/2025 21:15

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 21:10

What a horrid thing to say. What would you have done in the same situation? I could explain what they did during the miscarriage but frankly I don't want to relive it. Just trust that it was bloody awful and my poor partner agrees with me.

Just ignore. There are some people who just lurk to say nasty comments rather than to be helpful.

Jackofallmasterofnone · 07/02/2025 21:17

MySpringBreath · 07/02/2025 21:06

You might be making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. Just reply to these messages saying tomorrow doesn't work for us as we have plans, I will ask DH to check the calendar and get back to you with some dates we can meet. Then ask DH to do that. Then sit back and wait for him to sort it out.

Because of everything that has gone on I don't think I should be the one to message. Communication with me has been nil since the miscarriage because they're not wanting to address what they did and said.
The issue, to be fair, is with my partner not stepping up to manage this himself and instead starting an argument with me about it.

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