To think most of you don’t know Mumsnet are now requiring acceptance of cookie tracking or payment to use the site?

[OldChairMan]

… as MN have only posted in Site Stuff:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/5268190-introducing-pay-or-consent-on-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

Many will click on “Read for free” without realising that this is a change in the site’s terms.

“Hello everyone.

We wanted to give you a heads-up about a change in the way we deal with cookie consent. We are introducing a Pay or Consent model, giving you two different options to continue accessing the site:

• Continue for free with cookies and ads: this is the option that most people have enabled already.
• Subscribe to Mumsnet Premium: For those who prefer an ad-free experience with no cookies/tracking for ad purposes - Besides ad-free you’ll also get first access to our product tests plus all revenues from Premium are put towards our campaigning work

Why are we making this change?

The pay or consent model is becoming increasingly common across online platforms as publishers adapt to changes in advertising levels and data privacy regulations. Like many other publishers, we relied on advertising to generate income but changes in tracking regulation and the growing use of ad blockers have made this model less viable.

We know that Mumsnet is an essential space for many - a place to seek advice, find support, and connect with your fellow Mumsnetters. That’s why we’re committed to ensuring that the site remains free at the point of use for anyone who needs it but it’s not fair that those who install ad blockers or rejected cookies are piggy backing on the back of other users who haven’t.

At the same time as introducing this, we’re going to reduce the price of Mumsnet Premium to £2.99 a month because we want to be fair to those who’d rather not accept advertising cookies. This is less than the cost of a flat white a month from most decent coffee shops and we very much hope you think Mumsnet’s worth it! Nb anyone who’s signed up to Mumsnet Premium already at the previous price (£4.99 per month) will have their payments reduced within the next week or so.

We’ll be here to answer any questions you may have. Thank you, as always, for supporting Mumsnet.”

MN is not a charity. Of course they have to find a way to make money from the site. its a business.

You are free to go elsewhere if you don't like the 'price' of using the service that they provide.

Meh all sites use cookies.

I disagree that we provide the content
How can you disagree? If everyone stopped posting right now what would the content consist of?

You know there's nobody forcing you to log in and post here. If you're not happy then you're free to go elsewhere.

Have you seen what you agree to when you visit the likes of the daily mail? That's properly fucked up.

What is it that you come to mn for?

Anything apart from the forums?

Should I be paid for creating content that you are reading?

I said YABU simply because of the enormous box that I had to accept cookies on that appeared this morning.

If you are a Publisher, are you legally responsible for your published content?

Quite.

This new system of agree to us taking your data or pay for the privilege of not allowing cookies is outrageous, disappointed that @mnhq have jumped on the bandwagon.

Oh come on, it's money for old rope!
They'd be fools not to milk it for all its worth for as long as they can 🤷🏻‍♀️

But did it say “Accept cookies” or just “accept ads”?

Most of us know and don’t give a shit.

This. I am hooting with laughter at this thread at people describing themselves as the 'content creators' and the 'product'. My dear God. Yes, that's right you are the non-quality controlled, non-managed, non-edited, non-interviewed, non-employed, non-contracted, non-selected 'content creators'. And each one of you is of vital importance to the site and are not completely and instantly replaceable at all. 🙄

Do get over yourselves.

What happened?

Workarounds to this are:

• Privacy badger
• VPN
• An ad blocker
• Use a different/ 'burner' profile when you log in to your browser to use sites like mumsnet (e.g. if you use Chrome, don't use your regular [email protected] account - make a new anonymous browser profile just for sites like mumsnet).

I've been doing all of this for years. It's not just mumsnet that try to harvest data. These are all just sensible precautions to take.

We do provide most of the content; we allow MN to publish it. That agreement will be in the t&cs. It becomes their content - when we agree to post on the site, we sign over some (I assume not all, though I've not checked the t&cs recently) rights to it.

Copyright law gets very complicated, very quickly.

'b. By uploading User Content to our Website, you confirm to us that it is not confidential and not protected by any trade mark, patent, copyright or any other intellectual property right ("non-proprietary"). By submitting User Content to us you automatically grant to us a worldwide, fully-paid up, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, fully sublicensable, and transferable right and license to use, store, record, sell, lease, copy, reproduce, distribute, create derivative works based upon (including, without limitation, translations), publicly display, publicly perform, transmit, publish and otherwise exploit the User Content (in whole or in part) as Mumsnet, in its sole discretion, deems appropriate forever. '

Users retain copyright, fwiw.

As others have said this is probably the kick up the bum I need. As long as I can access the site with an ad blocker I spend too much time scrolling here. If I am forced to accept ads I won't be here anymore and that will probably be a lot better for my mental health.

I read it in friends earlier!

Thanks for pointing out the cost of Premium has reduced from £4.99 to £2.99. Makes it worth paying for in my opinion so I have signed up for premium 😊

*active threads

Stupid phone

I think this is meant to be that you read it in actives earlier and yes earlier it was definitely showing in actives as that's where I came across the site stuff thread initially. The fact it's now not showing in actives seems very deliberate.

Doesn't bother me at all. If you don't want ads, pay. If you don't want cookies, pay. Seems reasonable. It's been communicated clearly and transparently.

Third option install some simple addons to your device and pay nothing. Dont get tracked and dont have your privacy stolen 😅