Lucy Letby.....she might actually be innocent?!

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I have just watched the full press conference and I'm blown away. There seems to be no actual evidence AT ALL that she killed or injured those babies. This could be one of the biggest miscarriages of justice there has ever been in this country.

Have you used a barrister? Ok, they may not be an expert in the field of the person they are defending (or prosecuting), but they make sure they are experts by the time they get to court. I've seen barristers eviscerate a witness with knowledge I, as someone working in the field, had only a passing knowledge of.
They forget it once the trial is over, but you cannot accuse them of not understanding what they are defending.
Of course, they use experts for info, and expert witnesses, and some do specialise in certain fields such as medical negligence, so one's solicitor advises the best firm of barristers to use.

And yet, her defence barrister didn't even check with the experts or fight the medical evidence which was put forward by Dewi Evans. OK.

Same one who bought to light the post office scandal.

She wrote in her journal 'I did it'.

You referred to barristers in general terms, not specifically about her trial solicitors.

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Whatever the truth is we need to overhaul the nhs big time and address staffing levels.
Also it is awfulthat babies die and old people etc but we cannot expect the nhs to cure death. Noone can. This is mostly relevant to older people however..the nhs cant stop the inevitable What it can do is not hasten that end as it appears to have done here.

Did what though? It’s hardly a detailed confession.

She could have been venting her distress over being there when the babies died. She could have felt a level of guilt that she didn’t do enough or failed in some way. If you were actually evil or a psychopath that goes around killing babies you wouldn’t have the remorse or feelings or self loathing over it and be reflecting in a journal.

Had I been accused of killing a child, I could imagine having a complete breakdown and accusing myself of doing something wrong even if I wasn’t guilty. E.g. say if a child choked - I’d blame myself even if it wasn’t actually my fault. I’d apply this potential thought process to the ‘I did it’ scrawls.

How do you know what she had been told at that time, any clinican automatically feels to blame if somthing goes wrong. I think from what other people have said on previous threads it’s a method of releasing these thoughts from going around in your head.

She hasn’t been the victim of a conspiracy or cover up, I find that idea ridiculous. Having a serial killer in your midst isn’t a great look either and it took them way too long actually to raise it with police. If they wanted to cover up and scapegoat her it would have been far, far easier to blame incompetence and sack her surely. On the face of it, colleagues, police and jury had good reason to believe she was involved,

But we have seen other cases where the person has just been incredibly unlucky. Scientific views have changed or been questioned. This seems the case here potentially, possibly. Assuming these are all credible experts it does seem that it should be reexamined. What an absolute nightmare this case is. I feel so sorry for the families of the children as well.

why weren’t the doctors on the list of shifts?

Sorry but I responded to your post wrongly I agree with you I cannot delete the post I put.

It’s never sat right with me. You can definitely be a bit odd and obsessive without being a murderer.
In my job I work with vulnerable people. Some have died. Some of which have been very unexpected. I will admit to looking them up on Facebook and reading tributes to them from
their families and friends. These things are in the public domain. I don’t think the fact that she did this, especially on significant anniversaries is proof of guilt -more a sign that she was perhaps over involved.
I have also known colleagues get stroppy when they are asked to work in a different department because they feel their skills are better placed with the vulnerable people and they don’t trust that the staff who replace them are competent.
I hope she gets another trial.

To all those saying she couldn't get an expert witness to speak for her defence - this isn't true. Dr Michael Hall wrote reports for the defence, attended court and was prepared to testify. He wasn't called. We don't know why. Only Lucy and her defence council know that. Dr Hall has since spoken out saying that even he doesn't know why he wasn't called and that he feels she didn't receive a fair trial due to the lack of evidence put forward by the defence. He spoke on Panorama and has been quoted in multiple newspapers. Anyone who has even a passing interest in this case would find his comments easily. It's staggering how many posters are commenting who clearly haven't read beyond a couple of sensationalist headlines.

(Sorry if this has already been mentioned. I haven't rtft.)

Yes.

And because this baby's case was dropped it could not be brought up at trial.

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Completely agree!!!

If you look carefully at those notes, the words she is quoted as having written have been misquoted. There is another line to the wording that has been conveniently not taken into consideration.

I believe she was never bright or good enough to make a good nurse and this is why she was the perfect candidate to carry the can for massive failures within the NHS. I am a victim of NHS fuck ups. It happens a lot more than people think.

I suspect she is guilty in reality but fear she may have been engineered into being the scapegoat.

It's really not that simple.

Have you ever read a scientific paper?

I do think this is simplistic, as research shows that the judiciary are harder on women who they perceive to have broken a female code, eg, crimes against children or crimes of violence. Young white women are not the most privileged people in society, when it comes to the law or other matters.
I know a school of thought would disagree with me on the last point, though.

I think this is a very interesting point.

I feel so sorry for the families involved. They should get justice and closure.

I do not share your opinion that David Davis is a serious politician. I think he’s a buffoon and this isn’t the first time he’s attached himself to the wrong side of a cause.

He should stick to what he’s best at, propping up the bar at his local golf club. Not upsetting parents who’ve lost their babies.

After all the press speculation and interest in this case I can't see how she can have another trial and it be a fair one now.