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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or have you ever felt like a teacher just didn’t like your DC?

59 replies

Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 19:05

Trying to remain quite lighthearted about this but it’s still bugging me mostly because I’m not sure what exactly I’ve done to bother the woman.

my DD, 5, has a split teaching rota. So she had one teacher half the week ( So chatty and kind from what I’ve observed so far but I try not to be the parent who’s badgering them after school so I haven’t spoken to her a huge amount. I have had a few interactions with that one though and she was just so warm and lovely about DD. It made me feel like she ‘gets’ her and my DD will be happy in her care. )

the other one literally couldn’t be any different if she tried. It’s almost like a cliche Disney comparison. And she’s the one I’ve had more time in the company of. She’s very well put together but also quite reserved and ‘clipped’ in her manner. The first red flag was that she attended a child planning meeting for my DD, a multidisciplinary meeting to discuss a child’s needs. My DD is currently diagnosed with ASD). There were five adults in the room and everyone had so much to say and share, you could tell people had got a real feel for DDs personality and her needs.
DD is a bit of a character, but hasn’t presented as challenging in school. She was much higher need in a nursery setting annd then school seems to have given her a lot more structure annd predictability and all of a sudden she’s become a lot more able to mask and manage her needs during the school day. Which obviously has its pluses and minuses. We get the overwhelm and burnout at home but she’s coping at school so I’m grateful for that.

Again, all the staff in that meeting were just really warm and lovely about her. And yet, this teacher, who is the one actually spending all day with DD , and surely would know the most about how she’s coping… said not a word. She didn’t speak through the meeting, she looked a bit flustered and bemused when asked questions and really looked like she just thought the whole thing was a waste of her time. I think for a class teacher to sit through a CPM and not say a WORD is really quite bizarre.

DD is very heavily masking at school. Which I think is ok to a point because it’s a skill that will be useful to her in life. But it does mean that her difficulties and challenges are not always ‘obvious’. She doesn’t behave in a particularly challenging way at school, and I’m beginning to get the feeling that this teacher might have taken a dislike to us as a family because she maybe can’t be bothered with being asked to be aware of her being neurodivergent , if she maybe thinks that DD is not? I have convinced myself that she resents having to attend CPMs and make adjustments for her. I know that sounds a big leap. But the only interaction I HAVE had with her was to just quickly ask her about something which is related to my daughter’s ASD, I basically said, I just wanted to ask if there’s anything relating to this behaviour you’ve seen in the classroom so I know if this is just a home thing…
And, the WAY she looked at me!? She screwed her whole face up as though really keen to emphasise how ridiculous she thought the suggestion was and said ‘no, I can’t imagine her having difficulty with that’

it felt a bit unprofessional and judgy but then again, I know how hard teaching is. My best friend is a teacher, I know it’s hard when parents are bombarding you at the end of the day with lots and lots of bits of information and requests and especially with five year olds, I guess there’s a lot of parents who really do think the world revolves around their own little darlings. I also think there is a lot of expectation on teachers to bend over backwards meeting individual needs of children, and there’s a lot less expectation on parents and children, and a real quickness to throw issues at the school and expect them to sort it. I try SO hard not to give that impression and I tried to write this one off as maybe me having got her at a bad moment, her not being quick enough to cover up how ridiculous she thinks it is that DD is considered ND when her behaviour isn’t a challenge for them yet.

I really don’t ask much of the school. Some people may actually think that I should be more demanding but there are some things which I think my wee girl is ok to be challenged by. Unless it’s really distressing, I think that sometimes it’s ok for her to find something a bit harder than other kids, but muddle her way through and find a way she can cope. I don’t automatically think they should provide a way for her to avoid anything she finds a bit overwhelming.

other instances where I’ve got the same feeling, were when my daughter told me she found the school assemblies really overwhelming because there were just too many people and too much noise. I told the teachers that I’d asked my DD to tell them if she felt this way and maybe they could (if there was a way to do so) have her taken out of the room. I do know they have thirty kids each and can’t just drop everything for one, but I was a bit shocked that seemingly this teachers response in the next assembly when my DD said ‘I’m finding it too much, I need to get out’ was apparently to tell her that everyone else had to sit nicely and she couldn’t have ‘special treatment for being bored’

I mean. If you haven’t gotten bored yourself yet of reading this, I fully accept that people may think I’m OTT and a nightmare parent who just doesn’t know it. But I really REALLY haven’t asked for any major special treatment. We have been told by teams working with my DD that we ‘should ask the school’ for various adjustments and I’ve never felt it necessary because overall, I know my DD is coping and learning how to continue doing so in a mainstream setting. Which will be expected of her throughout her life.

I just wondered if maybe anyone else has experienced having a ND child who maybe wasn’t super high need or super challenging, and felt the teacher was a bit dismissive and seemed actively irritated by the notion your child might have additional needs at times.

ive grown to dread the days it’s her in the classroom because now that I’ve noticed it, I’m forever feeling like I’m over reading any interaction. She recently took away an important part in a school production my DD had been given by the other teacher, and gave it to another child on the day because DD said she didn’t need to practice it because she already knew it off by heart. Which felt a bit icky because DD maybe did sound a bit stuck up saying that but she wouldn’t have meant to. She genuinely would have just not understood why she should stand in a corner herself to practice something that she did already know by heart without having to practice. It felt a bit like teaching her a lesson for being a ‘smartarse’ or something.

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VivaVivaa · 04/02/2025 19:13

I think a lot of teachers have an old fashioned, stereotypical view of what ASD is. If your child doesn’t fit this, they put you down as ‘that parent’ and ‘that child’.

I wish this wasn’t true, but we are also seeing this with DS’ school. We try and be chill and unassuming and sort everything quietly (at great expense to us - we have sort nearly everything quietly and privately). But we are definitely viewed as being nuisances. The SENCO practically sneers when she sees us, despite us never asking anything of her.

It sucks. And we pick up the pieces when he explodes at the end of the day. So much ignorance.

Octavia64 · 04/02/2025 19:20

Your reasons for disliking her seem to be:

She didn't talk in a meeting

She looked at you funny

She didn't take your child out of assembly when you had asked if the teachers would consider taking her out.

Obviously the first two are not reasonable.

For the third one, you'd need to actually get the teachers to agree to take her out rather than just ask. You asked if the teachers would think about taking her out of assembly. You didn't agree it.

BCBird · 04/02/2025 19:25

No need to.mention that she isn't very well put together- totally irrelevant . If ur child does not display any different behaviours at school because she is masking, then she may not have anything to say?

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 04/02/2025 19:28

Yanbu and it's like you're in my head

I have an attendance meeting on Thursday- one teacher really dislikes my dd (5, asd) and makes it so clear and makes me so uncomfortable

I don't know what I've done to upset her

My dd is so sweet - maybe because she's pretty? No idea

Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 19:41

BCBird · 04/02/2025 19:25

No need to.mention that she isn't very well put together- totally irrelevant . If ur child does not display any different behaviours at school because she is masking, then she may not have anything to say?

I didn’t. I said she IS very well put together. And all I meant by it is that she is super organised and the class goes in and out right on time, she never seems rushed , she always looks immaculate and in control of her wee brood, and it’s something I think must be VERY hard when you teach five year olds. I meant it as a compliment. I couldn’t be so ‘well put together’ if I tried and I only have one five year old (my other DC are older)

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Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 19:46

Octavia64 · 04/02/2025 19:20

Your reasons for disliking her seem to be:

She didn't talk in a meeting

She looked at you funny

She didn't take your child out of assembly when you had asked if the teachers would consider taking her out.

Obviously the first two are not reasonable.

For the third one, you'd need to actually get the teachers to agree to take her out rather than just ask. You asked if the teachers would think about taking her out of assembly. You didn't agree it.

I don’t dislike her. I think she dislikes me , or my kiddo. (Which I can’t really moan about, we are all just humans and some people we will or won’t click with. Even if she genuinely dislikes a five year old I wouldn’t think that made her awful. I’ve met loads of kids I didn’t really like.).

but you make a very good point. I suppose that I didn’t get confirmation from them that it would be ok for her to leave assembly if she was overwhelmed. I didn’t want to be too demanding so I just asked but also added that I knew it may not be possible. I think what irked me was that I’d made them aware of what the assembly issue seemed to be and yet she dismissed this by telling DC she was just bored. It felt like a little snipe at her on the one time that she spoke up and said she was overwhelmed instead of not communicating it properly and instead exhibiting other behaviours.

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BCBird · 04/02/2025 19:48

Apologies OP

Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 19:52

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 04/02/2025 19:28

Yanbu and it's like you're in my head

I have an attendance meeting on Thursday- one teacher really dislikes my dd (5, asd) and makes it so clear and makes me so uncomfortable

I don't know what I've done to upset her

My dd is so sweet - maybe because she's pretty? No idea

Awk I hope it goes ok for you.

I’ve been telling myself it’s maybe good for DD to have two such different characters/personalities/approaches working with her. Not everyone IS going to be lovely to her in life, not everyone will think she’s wonderful and find her funny and clever. Some people will think she’s a bit of a pain in the backside or she’s over reactive or she’s dramatic or indulged and just a bit of an annoyance.

I want her to know that it doesn’t matter either way. None of these people are ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ , they just have opinions and you probably have opinions about them that won’t always be kind.

I guess this way she experiences both at once and I guess it’s better than her having a teacher who didn’t ‘get’ her and that being her only teacher.

Having said all that, here I am whinging on mumsnet about it myself so…

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Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 19:54

BCBird · 04/02/2025 19:48

Apologies OP

No not at all! I only replied because I wouldn’t have said such a thing about the woman even I find her a bit frosty.

im usually at the school gates looking like I’ve just been electrocuted to be honest so I’d have a cheek saying anyone wasn’t very well put together.

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MissUltraViolet · 04/02/2025 19:58

Yup. DD had a teacher in primary that didn't like her (or me!).

DD started displaying symptoms of a type of epilepsy and her Y5 teacher insisted DD was pretending and just being 'trouble'. I'd like to say she treated DD better when I took the paediatricians letter in confirming diagnosis (she insisted on seeing it, even though the office had a copy) and proved her wrong but she didn't.

The parents evening the following year was fun too, after we finished chatting with her new Y6 teacher and started walking away. old Mrs Trunchball came waltzing over and started whispering and shooting me daggers.

Horrible twat.

Ablondiebutagoody · 04/02/2025 19:59

My guess would be that she's overwhelmed with work. In some classes every other kid has some kind of special plan in place that the class teacher has to consider any time she does anything. All pushed by those other people at the CPM meeting because they get to be all cuddly and inclusive whilst putting the actual work onto the class teacher. And you can bet that anytime she forgets something on any of those plans, the parent will be straight on her case. It can just be too much in my experience.

Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 20:04

Ablondiebutagoody · 04/02/2025 19:59

My guess would be that she's overwhelmed with work. In some classes every other kid has some kind of special plan in place that the class teacher has to consider any time she does anything. All pushed by those other people at the CPM meeting because they get to be all cuddly and inclusive whilst putting the actual work onto the class teacher. And you can bet that anytime she forgets something on any of those plans, the parent will be straight on her case. It can just be too much in my experience.

To be honest this does sound fairly likely. As mentioned, best friend is a primary school teacher and I fully remember this being her experience and being enough to make her life hellish. I know it sounds so childish but I wish I could just let her know I’m totally on her side and I don’t want to make her life harder but we are already managing a lot of the difficulties without making them her problem, we do a lot of it at home, we don’t bother the school for much because it’s my job to parent… not theirs, and she is one of hundreds now so I get that the world doesn’t revolve round her … so if I do speak up about something it’s because I absolutely have to.

I feel like by trying so hard not to be a bother, we are almost hiding the extent of DDs difficulties which then means that she’s being dismissed a bit as not actually having them.

this comment really helped though. It’s a reminder for me. Thank you

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VivaVivaa · 04/02/2025 20:10

I don’t want to make her life harder but we are already managing a lot of the difficulties without making them her problem, we do a lot of it at home, we don’t bother the school for much because it’s my job to parent…I feel like by trying so hard not to be a bother, we are almost hiding the extent of DDs difficulties which then means that she’s being dismissed a bit as not actually having them.

I could have written this word for word. DH and I are on our knees facilitating DS. We do nothing but work or support him to just about keep him regulated enough for school. Literally no hobbies, nothing, as he requires so much regulation. We ask for nothing and expect nothing. And yet, if we just washed our hands of his behaviour and demanded everything of everyone else, I feel it may be easier to be taken seriously. I’m totally broken and I feel for you.

Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 20:19

VivaVivaa · 04/02/2025 20:10

I don’t want to make her life harder but we are already managing a lot of the difficulties without making them her problem, we do a lot of it at home, we don’t bother the school for much because it’s my job to parent…I feel like by trying so hard not to be a bother, we are almost hiding the extent of DDs difficulties which then means that she’s being dismissed a bit as not actually having them.

I could have written this word for word. DH and I are on our knees facilitating DS. We do nothing but work or support him to just about keep him regulated enough for school. Literally no hobbies, nothing, as he requires so much regulation. We ask for nothing and expect nothing. And yet, if we just washed our hands of his behaviour and demanded everything of everyone else, I feel it may be easier to be taken seriously. I’m totally broken and I feel for you.

This is how I feel. So much better put! It’s not really about her being frosty toward me or her not being that warm towards my wee girl.

it’s about feeling exhausted and quietly doing SO much behind the scenes to keep her regulated enough that she’s able to mask in a classroom.

and knowing that if we just stopped, and we lived our lives not revolved around that, she would be an absolute wreck on a daily basis and they would be faced with the reality of how she’s coping. She WOULD then be the child who was screaming , lashing out, uncontrollable and vomitting in distress over sensory issues she has (which I spend my life managing by trying and buying various things she can tolerate better without making her stick out too much for what she wears or eats at lunch etc)

It’s tricky when you know full well there are lots more resources and acknowledgements made if you actually just let them see the full extent. (I would absolutely never do this because this would mean letting my kid be more distressed than she has to be and I will never ever do that)

but by doing so much to keep her coping, I think we are making her easy to dismiss and easy to see as a bit of a ‘parents say she’s autistic but she’s prob a bit spoiled’ sort of kid.

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GoldFishPocketWatch · 04/02/2025 20:20

I think her attitude is a shame. There are lots of great teachers out there but also plenty who are just average, not great people.

It's a shame they didn't think about the assembly thing. Quite a few schools will do something like have a quiet room for stuff like that. I'm sure your DD would not be the only kid who would benefit from putting a few things like that in place.

Plaitedplait · 04/02/2025 20:20

BCBird · 04/02/2025 19:25

No need to.mention that she isn't very well put together- totally irrelevant . If ur child does not display any different behaviours at school because she is masking, then she may not have anything to say?

This is the bery difficult thing about masking. If a child appears happy, is completing their work and has good friendships, it can be very difficult to put anything in place for a problem that isn't visible in school.

Moonnstars · 04/02/2025 20:23

Yeah the only issue I can really spot is the assembly one, and even then you can't be sure that she actually said to your child was she couldn't have ‘special treatment for being bored’.
There could be a number of reasons why they wanted her to try and stay in the assembly, maybe the teacher was on her own and needed to stay with the whole class, maybe they thought they would be interested. Many SEN are encouraged to stay in assembly.
I think you need to talk to her again about what can be done, if it's noisy can she have ear defenders rather than having to leave? I would put it in writing so you know what has been said (we use dojo to message teachers) and you then have something to refer back to if things don't happen. Also include the other teacher in the communication if you can.

Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 20:26

GoldFishPocketWatch · 04/02/2025 20:20

I think her attitude is a shame. There are lots of great teachers out there but also plenty who are just average, not great people.

It's a shame they didn't think about the assembly thing. Quite a few schools will do something like have a quiet room for stuff like that. I'm sure your DD would not be the only kid who would benefit from putting a few things like that in place.

I was told by the school that these sort of things could be easily put in place if I asked. I just haven’t felt the need to do so often. So it felt a bit like a personal snipe that when we did ask, it was very quickly shot down and she was told she was ‘just bored’.

As someone’s said though? It’s been easy for school management and heads to sit in CPMs saying things can be arranged:provided and then in reality it’s lumped on the class teacher to try and manage that in her day.

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Laffydaffy · 04/02/2025 20:26

We had been waiting to get a teacher who didn't like our kids. Got one for DS last year.

This teacher was the kind who would sit there with a sweet, sympathetic smile, head tilted and then say the most discriminatory, nasty things. I just itched to take it further, and made sure I documented everything but she and I both knew that we had pretty much no power - she was the head of his year, we are foreigners (there is strong anti-foreigner sentiment here), DS's low vision needed some extra support - he had to sit at the front of the classroom, use a laptop and print-outs needed to be enlarged.

There were so many little things at first that I thought I was just being sensitive. She would say things like, oh, he is blocking the child behind him from seeing, we will have to move him, oh, he can't use his laptop, he will need an extension cable (which we had no trouble providing), and then started printing hand-outs and tests in small print so he couldn't read them. Then it escalated, and I realised she was also trying to alienate him from his other teachers, which I found out when I spoke to some of them. She also pushed for a school change for kids with delayed development (with such a sympathetic smile) , which we would have sent DS to if he had needed to. In the end, she got pregnant and left, and DS is just blooming this year. It was just confirmation that it was her and not DS, but it really made me doubt.

Anyway, you will get teachers that are awesome, and some that aren't. Just make sure you document everything and back it up with email (date stamp). And something my MIL said, keep defending your child. If you don't, who will?

Vettrianofan · 04/02/2025 20:26

On the plus side, at least she attended the meeting.

DS' teacher didn't!

Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 20:28

Moonnstars · 04/02/2025 20:23

Yeah the only issue I can really spot is the assembly one, and even then you can't be sure that she actually said to your child was she couldn't have ‘special treatment for being bored’.
There could be a number of reasons why they wanted her to try and stay in the assembly, maybe the teacher was on her own and needed to stay with the whole class, maybe they thought they would be interested. Many SEN are encouraged to stay in assembly.
I think you need to talk to her again about what can be done, if it's noisy can she have ear defenders rather than having to leave? I would put it in writing so you know what has been said (we use dojo to message teachers) and you then have something to refer back to if things don't happen. Also include the other teacher in the communication if you can.

Totally understand that. With DD, I know that’s word for word what was said because, as part of her ASD she does repeat back exactly what’s been said. She doesn’t elaborate though, so I can’t be sure there weren’t other cues she didn’t pick up on like it maybe being a particularly stressful moment for the teacher. But I can be sure that’s exactly what was said to her because she doesn’t really know how to tell you something happened without the exact words to repeat

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CharlotteByrde · 04/02/2025 20:28

I don't know what I've done to upset her
My dd is so sweet - maybe because she's pretty? No idea
@mumofoneAlonebutokay I don't get this part? Are you suggesting the teacher dislikes your five year old because she's pretty?

Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 20:30

Moonnstars · 04/02/2025 20:23

Yeah the only issue I can really spot is the assembly one, and even then you can't be sure that she actually said to your child was she couldn't have ‘special treatment for being bored’.
There could be a number of reasons why they wanted her to try and stay in the assembly, maybe the teacher was on her own and needed to stay with the whole class, maybe they thought they would be interested. Many SEN are encouraged to stay in assembly.
I think you need to talk to her again about what can be done, if it's noisy can she have ear defenders rather than having to leave? I would put it in writing so you know what has been said (we use dojo to message teachers) and you then have something to refer back to if things don't happen. Also include the other teacher in the communication if you can.

This actually really helps though. You’ve done what my daughter can’t, and explained some possible other context there could have been for the response. Maybe it WAS something she may have been interested in or maybe the teacher needed to say that so that other listening kids didn’t also wanna leave. Thanks, this is super helpful

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Plaitedplait · 04/02/2025 20:30

Vettrianofan · 04/02/2025 20:26

On the plus side, at least she attended the meeting.

DS' teacher didn't!

Was she teaching her class? Very often not up to a class teacher if cover will be arranged for them to be released.

Letthemeatcakebbz · 04/02/2025 20:31

Vettrianofan · 04/02/2025 20:26

On the plus side, at least she attended the meeting.

DS' teacher didn't!

Oh jeez!

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