Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

[Rainingalldayonmyhead]

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

He's a chop too.

They are in France. France and that vast landscape called Europe is safe. There is absolutely no reason to risk your life on a boat.

If all asylum seekers were detained on arrival and detained indefinitely until their claim was processed the problem would go away.

As I noted, people have been programmed with what to say when things go wrong.

Face it, it's a lot easier than actually applying precious brainpower the issue.

How do you thing religion started ?

Really? Personally, I don't think they'd give a shit. I certainly don't think they'll see many posters leaving to find an alternative, do you? Where would you go?

@Rainingalldayonmyhead The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

Who on earth claimed that the US subsidises Canada?

President Trump.

Is he going to start suing former users who’ve deactivated their accounts next? He seriously needs to put the crack pipe down.

Can’t believe America is going out like this.

Imagine I have some goods and you want to buy them. You are then going to sell them to someone else.

I normally sell them to you for £100.
You sell them for £120.

With a 25% tariff, I still sell them to you for £100.
The Government looks at the price and says "You brought them for £100. Please give us £25 as a tax"

So you spent £100 on the goods (which you gave to me). You have to give £25 to the Government.

What price do you sell them for?

Whilst I don't disagree with you in principle, I don't think a boybott of US goods by MN posters will dent much. I'm guessing you are Canadian, so have a vested interest? Here's a simple solution - stop sending oil! Close the pipelines and he'll come to heel fast enough.

I can imagine that this conversation is going on in other places and not just on MN.

There's not much actual made-in-America stuff in the UK really, is there? Levis are mostly made outside the US, I think. Harley-Davidsons?

If the UK wanted to influence US trade policy it would have stayed in the EU. We didn't so that's that.

Beyond which, although I despise Trump, he's allowed to set trade policies for his own country - and to harvest the results.

https://www.businesstoday.in/world/canada/story/make-them-pay-canada-puts-trumps-first-friend-elon-musks-tesla-in-the-crosshairs-of-tariff-war-463097-2025-02-01

‘Make them pay’: Canada puts Trump’s ‘first friend’ Elon Musk’s Tesla in the crosshairs of tariff war

Canada’s EV adoption rate is outpacing that of the U.S., with nearly 17% of new cars sold in the third quarter of 2024 being fully electric, compared to just 8% in the US.

Do you buy a lot of American goods? Are you including goods from American companies, so anything from Disney, Cotton Traders, Coca Cola etc.? Just wondering because I only really see American goods in Costco. I don't think it's possible to boycott American companies unless you severely limit your lifestyle. And I don't see how trying to tank the American economy helps anyone.

Trump. He directly said that to the tune of over a billion dollars. Lunacy.

Musk doesn't believe in free speech.
I know someone who made a mildly derogatory remark about him on X and was immediately and irreversibly banned.

Sorry, how is Canada and Mexico any of our business? Oh, sorry, I forgot, since Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Syria and Ukraine are our business, so Mexico and Canada should be too.

Fair enough. I'm surprised he thinks that.

I don't think this is a reason to boycott American goods though. The retaliation comes from governments that respond by increasing tariffs on American goods, so there is no need to have your own boycott above that.

I would also question whether it's strictly wrong for Trump to want more manufacturing completed in the US. On the question of what should be imported, and what should be made in our own countries, there's not really a right or wrong answer and it's about getting the right balance.

Given that climate change is a problem (yes, climate change is a real thing), I wonder if manufacturing more things in the UK, rather than having goods flown in from other countries, can help to decrease carbon emissions.

I don't need to answer your question because it is irrelevant to the conversation but to clarify I’ve lived internationally twice. It was pretty easy to be honest. I didn’t have to paddle my way across the channel or anything.

I don’t read the Daily Mail but thank you so much for filling my bingo card in the top left corner.

I’ll call people that come here illegally what ever I like. I have zero problem with legal migration. I do have a problem with people that enter the country illegally to rape, murder and steal. If you don’t you, that’s a you problem not a me problem.

Now you answer my question. Why do they not stay in mainland Europe where they are safe.

Yeah he is. But it’s very naive to think this won’t affect the UK, the global market and our way of life.

Maybe consider this man signed a trade agreement with Canada and Mexico just a few years ago when he was last president.

He has said he will expand tariffs (his favourite word apparently) to other countries. Specifically the EU. Sure we aren’t in the EU anymore but think about our trade to Europe. Maybe you will hope then that your allies supported you.

Yeah, the logic of the Brexiters was that instead of being in a trading bloc with our nearest export partners, where we would be an integral part of the decision-making, we would be having glorious new free trade agreements with the US… oops.

Sadly, Trump, like Brexit, is entirely a phenomenon entirely dependent on the votes of the lower half of the IQ distribution curve. I’m sure there will be a few Brexiteers along in a moment to argue with that, but we all know that unfortunately it’s true — both Trump and Brexit appeal to the more gullible and the stupider half of the voters. Unfortunately, as we know from Brexit, no matter what or how glaring the consequences, these people will still deliberately fail to understand the results of their actions. Just as even now threads of idiots speak on social media still claiming the only thing wrong with Brexit was that it wasn’t extreme enough, for decades we will have MAGA idiots blaming the consequences of Trump’s policies on Biden, Obama, vaccines, DEI, black people, immigrants or whatever. They’ll never learn. ☹️

Tariffs in Canada is stopping illegal immigration how exactly?

Trump signed a trade agreement with Canada and Mexico and has torn it up.
Which by implication suggests that any trade agreement we sign with the USA is worthless if it can just be torn up.

Aren't Canada and Mexico in a free trade area? ( guessing the US doesn't want to be in it anymore) so South America could be a great export market.

No not really. You can’t just magic things out of the ground if they aren’t there.

It’s called standing against bullies with your friends and allies even if it doesn’t directly affect you. Sorta like Canada did in WW2.