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Would you hire a morbidly obese Nanny?

606 replies

whompingwillo · 01/02/2025 11:50

I would like to hire someone we’ve met for my 9 month old baby. She’s fab, great with kids, lovely, I have no concerns.

I would estimate her BMI is 50-60 and my husband noticed that it is a struggle for her to get up and down off the floor and he is worried that if baby was in danger she may struggle.

So what would you do? Do you think that weight could impact a job like this? I’m sure people of this weight have their own children and are safe to look after them?

YABU - morbid obesity could impact her ability to do this job

YANBU - she’ll be fine

OP posts:
SquashedSquid · 02/02/2025 16:17

SunshineOnASnowyDay · 02/02/2025 16:15

Maybe your kids are very inactive? It’s normal for young kids to be running here and there and yes for a parent to be running after toddlers, which is why reins are suggested on so many threads.

If your children are running all over the place and they aren't in a park/play area, then you should probably take a long, hard look at your parenting skills.

ObelixtheGaul · 02/02/2025 16:23

I admit I haven't RTFT so this might have been said already, but I presume she's a professional with references? If she's qualified and has been in work as a Nanny, I would assume she's up to doing the job.

SunshineOnASnowyDay · 02/02/2025 16:29

SquashedSquid · 02/02/2025 16:17

If your children are running all over the place and they aren't in a park/play area, then you should probably take a long, hard look at your parenting skills.

Likewise if your kids are sitting on their arse all day, I’d take a long hard look at your parenting skills.

Binman · 02/02/2025 16:33

whompingwillo · 01/02/2025 12:07

Obviously I have no idea how much she weighs but yes this would probably be about right.

You cant estimate her BMI if you have no idea of her weight?

You have already seen she struggles to get off the floor so how would a trial help with that?

A BMI of 50 to 60 is huge and dangerous. At 5'7" I would weigh 25 stone to be midway that point. I would be unable to look after myself never mind a baby.

Abouttimer · 02/02/2025 16:33

SunshineOnASnowyDay · 02/02/2025 16:15

Maybe your kids are very inactive? It’s normal for young kids to be running here and there and yes for a parent to be running after toddlers, which is why reins are suggested on so many threads.

But if a child is on reins then why is anyone running after them? That doesn't strike me as allowing them to be very active now does it?

Unfortunately for you and your assumptions, mine are very active. They run and play and jump and climb just like every other child you know. Running around is normal, running 'off' is a choice - they just know what the boundaries are, even from very young ages. If I don't think they would listen and respect the boundaries they stayed near me until they could. Didn't take long. No running necessary.

Quite honestly if it's necessary for a nanny to be constantly chasing after her charge I would think she didn't have any control and would question her ability to do the job.

Flossflower · 02/02/2025 16:34

Abouttimer · 02/02/2025 16:10

But WHY would it??? Everyone on here seems to be constantly dashing after their children like roadrunner?? I don't think I've ever had to 'run' after any of my kids. They just... didn't need that. If you're perpetually chasing 2 year olds on the verge of mortal danger maybe you should have a look at your safety expectations and teach them accordingly.

Sorry but kids do run. This is one thing we had to be prepared for looking after our grandchildren.

Abouttimer · 02/02/2025 16:35

SunshineOnASnowyDay · 02/02/2025 16:29

Likewise if your kids are sitting on their arse all day, I’d take a long hard look at your parenting skills.

What on earth makes you think they're sitting around all day??

Abouttimer · 02/02/2025 16:41

Flossflower · 02/02/2025 16:34

Sorry but kids do run. This is one thing we had to be prepared for looking after our grandchildren.

They do run, yes. Mine have legs, I'm well aware of it. But I don't have to 'chase after them', they just behave themselves know the boundaries

Maybe this nanny is actually good at her job and can manage behaviour accordingly

Flossflower · 02/02/2025 16:44

@Abouttimer Do you think a 14 month old child know not to run off or climb stairs? This would quite an unusual child!

Errors · 02/02/2025 16:45

I wouldn’t, not for such a physical job

Bornnotbourne · 02/02/2025 16:46

Abouttimer · 02/02/2025 16:10

But WHY would it??? Everyone on here seems to be constantly dashing after their children like roadrunner?? I don't think I've ever had to 'run' after any of my kids. They just... didn't need that. If you're perpetually chasing 2 year olds on the verge of mortal danger maybe you should have a look at your safety expectations and teach them accordingly.

I was quite like you with my first child and my foster son, they are very biddable easy children who would hold hands and walk sensibly. I thought I was good parent then I had my second and to quote Romesh Rangnathan it was like he was trying to flee ISIS. Whatever I said or did, he try to escape it. He is in key stage 1 and he can run 5 km without a break.

Errors · 02/02/2025 16:49

SquashedSquid · 02/02/2025 13:18

I can't get up and down off the floor because I'm a wheelchair user and I'm morbidly obese due to my medication and conditions. I teach 5-6 year olds. I can guarantee I'm a better teacher than most, yet people on this thread wouldn't employ me to look after one child let alone 30+
Ridiculous.

Completely different scenario. A class of 5-6 year olds doesn’t need as much physical supervision as a small but very mobile toddler. Hence the ratio of staff to babies being different.

You are probably a great teacher, wouldn’t have an issue with you teaching my child as he is older. I wouldn’t have employed you as a nanny to look after him when he was, say, 18 months old though.

Abouttimer · 02/02/2025 16:50

Flossflower · 02/02/2025 16:44

@Abouttimer Do you think a 14 month old child know not to run off or climb stairs? This would quite an unusual child!

Would it?? I really don't think so. If you think they'll run off hold their hand until you can trust them not to. Rinse and repeat. It takes a bit of effort but then so does pelting across the park or down the high street umpteen times so make your choice I guess

I'm sure the professional nanny can manage it or her references would probably mention the squashed children and the multiple vehicular collisions. If those seem clear you're probably good.

Binman · 02/02/2025 16:53

It's not just about running around all day or cooking or teaching is it though?

It's about being mobile and being able to react.

It's having the energy to go up and down the stairs all day, it's bath time, play time, nappy time, tantrum time. It's cleaning up after them, packing a bag for that trip out and having to carrying them when they fall and hurt themselves.

You can't keep a toddler on reigns pushing them on the swings, running around the park or soft play, a toddler can still pull you on reigns and they can shoot of like a demon.

A BMI of 50 or 60 is way different to a BMI in the 40's.

Errors · 02/02/2025 17:05

UbiquitousObjects · 01/02/2025 19:35

You need to look far more closely at your diet. And you need to be honest with yourself.

If you were eating 1400 calories and walking 5 miles every day you would NOT have a BMI of 48.

You know that. I know that. So does everyone on the thread. And so does your Doctor which is most likely why they've waved you away with the 'probably hormonal' BS - because you can't help anyone lose weight when they're still in total denial about what they actually eat or do.

Sorry but I agree with this.

Im the opposite end, always been told I seem to eat more than most people yet stay a healthy weight. For years I thought it must just be metabolism and it’d catch up with me. In my 40s and still slim. In my case, I graze - eat little and often. Can’t eat a huge meal in one go, stop when I am full and have never comfort ate. I suspect this is why I have always had a healthy weight rather than it being genetics.

latetothefisting · 02/02/2025 17:38

Gone12 · 02/02/2025 14:01

I'm 5.8, around 20 stone. Used to be much slimmer when I was on a vlc liquid diet which made me lose hair and black out.

I can't do the splits but I too walk/run 5+ miles a day, lift heavy at the gym and have no trouble keeping up in HIIT/cardio based classes, unlike some much slimmer people - often to their open surprise/displeasure. I eat a Mediterranean style 'diet' i.e. lots of veg and seafood. Very little sugar. Perfect blood pressure and sugar levels, no known cardiovascular or other issues.

The ignorance and fat bashing on this thread is something else.

Edited

but as pp's have said, this gives you an app. bmi of 42.8
IF op is correct(I agree it's very hard to estimate) and the woman's BMI is 60, that's a huge difference again. People aren't just talking about being 'fat'
It's not even 'obese' - you're classed as obese with a BMI of 30. This is twice as big as that again.
Look at the chart @Blondeshavemorefun posted. If OP's nanny is that size,she's not "overweight" or even "obese."
It's not super obese, or morbid obese, or super morbid obese. It's "super super morbid obese"- to the extent that for anyone over 4'10 it's not even on the chart.

For you to have a BMI of 60 you'd have to be an extra 8 stone heavier. Do you think you could walk/run your 5 miles essentially carrying another person, which is what that would be?

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/02/2025 17:46

Well excatly @latetothefisting op can’t be right with 50/60 bmi

tho height depending and her size she could easily be 40/45

i was heading to 40 🙀😳

ShowerOfShites · 02/02/2025 19:00

Abouttimer · 02/02/2025 16:10

But WHY would it??? Everyone on here seems to be constantly dashing after their children like roadrunner?? I don't think I've ever had to 'run' after any of my kids. They just... didn't need that. If you're perpetually chasing 2 year olds on the verge of mortal danger maybe you should have a look at your safety expectations and teach them accordingly.

If you're perpetually chasing 2 year olds on the verge of mortal danger maybe you should have a look at your safety expectations and teach them accordingly.

Gosh, I've heard of people using hyperbole when they have no argument, because it's like a kind of deflection I suppose but this is off the scale.

As you know, no-one is 'perpetually chasing 2 year olds on the verge of mortal danger', but (again as you know) 2 year olds are unpredictable and can bolt without notice.

Therefore a wheelchair user would find this much more difficult to deal with than an able bodied Nanny.

But again, you know that too 🤷‍♂️

SquashedSquid · 02/02/2025 19:19

ShowerOfShites · 02/02/2025 19:00

If you're perpetually chasing 2 year olds on the verge of mortal danger maybe you should have a look at your safety expectations and teach them accordingly.

Gosh, I've heard of people using hyperbole when they have no argument, because it's like a kind of deflection I suppose but this is off the scale.

As you know, no-one is 'perpetually chasing 2 year olds on the verge of mortal danger', but (again as you know) 2 year olds are unpredictable and can bolt without notice.

Therefore a wheelchair user would find this much more difficult to deal with than an able bodied Nanny.

But again, you know that too 🤷‍♂️

Edited

I can guarantee my wheelchair moves faster than your legs

SunshineOnASnowyDay · 02/02/2025 19:29

SquashedSquid · 02/02/2025 19:19

I can guarantee my wheelchair moves faster than your legs

Ok guys we can close the thread now because a morbidly obese (your words) person in a wheel chair is faster than a slim able-bodied person at chasing a toddler. What utter bollocks.

ChishiyaBat · 02/02/2025 19:32

SisterEvangelinasSherryLog · 02/02/2025 10:23

My sister put on loads of weight when on sertraline. She had always been careful with her diet and weight too. It's horrendous that people have to choose between their weight and their mental health . My sister came close to unaliving herself. We both had a horrendously abusive childhood and my sister is also struggling with as yet undiagnosed but suspected ADHD (she waiting for asessment). My own issues with weight and PCOS were exacerbated by long term use of antipsychotic agents , mood stabilizers and antidepressants for my own psychiatric diagnoses. @RosesAndHellebores @ChishiyaBat

When I firstwent on sertraline it supressed my appetite for a few weeks, but now it's back to normal. It is hard when you are suffering with anxiety and depression, but hey we just need to eat less and move more right?

Caroparo52 · 02/02/2025 19:41

No from me

NonplasticBertrand · 02/02/2025 19:43

Errors · 02/02/2025 17:05

Sorry but I agree with this.

Im the opposite end, always been told I seem to eat more than most people yet stay a healthy weight. For years I thought it must just be metabolism and it’d catch up with me. In my 40s and still slim. In my case, I graze - eat little and often. Can’t eat a huge meal in one go, stop when I am full and have never comfort ate. I suspect this is why I have always had a healthy weight rather than it being genetics.

You may produce more leptin than other people (hormone influencing appetite)? Other people seem not to produce enough. Life is a lottery.

UbiquitousObjects · 02/02/2025 19:55

ChishiyaBat · 02/02/2025 19:32

When I firstwent on sertraline it supressed my appetite for a few weeks, but now it's back to normal. It is hard when you are suffering with anxiety and depression, but hey we just need to eat less and move more right?

I thought you were only eating 1400 calories a day? And walking 5 miles a day? So not sure how your anxiety and depression would be playing a role in you being morbidly obese here as it's clearly not making you overeat or restricting your activity.

ChishiyaBat · 02/02/2025 20:09

UbiquitousObjects · 02/02/2025 19:55

I thought you were only eating 1400 calories a day? And walking 5 miles a day? So not sure how your anxiety and depression would be playing a role in you being morbidly obese here as it's clearly not making you overeat or restricting your activity.

Oh do pipe down, I was just saying that having anxiety and depression is hard and sharing my experience of sertraline. It's not related to my weight, I have no issues with activity, in fact I managed to haul my fat arse out of bed at 6am I would have walked to work, but I got a lift and worked for 8whole hours today. Today was a slow day though and I only managed 3miles.