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AIBU not to arrange my days off around the requirements of the window cleaner?

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FailyDail · 31/01/2025 14:29

We’ve had the same window cleaner throughout the nearly 3yrs we’ve lived in our home. We ‘inherited’ them from the previous occupants and until now there’s been no issue.

Me & my husband are hybrid workers so there’s usually one of us WFH mon-Thurs.
The window cleaners, led by ‘Nigel’ didn’t have a set pattern and would just turn up at some point once a month, someone would usually be in. They’d wash the windows, we’d pay, that’s the end of it.

The last few times maybe 3-4, bearing in mind it’s monthly, he’s come on a Friday when usually no-one is home; husband in office I’m on a day off and usually out; I go to gym straight after school drop off then whatever else I need to do out and about.
I therefore come home to a note that they’ve been. Of relevance, if no one is in Nigel &co can’t get round the back, so only do the front and therefore charge half the usual price.

Nigel does the rounds collecting cash, which we pay, in the evening. I did ask about bank transfer but he ‘doesn’t do that’.
Again no issues with this - until today.

Today (being Friday) I was walking out of the school gates on my way to the gym.
Nigel was doing the windows of a house by the school, on a trajectory to eventually get to my road.
He spotted me and called me and I trotted over.
He announced to me that I hadn’t been in the last few times they’d done our windows. This is true!
I was slightly surprised he recognised me and had seemed to have memorised my presence or otherwise during window cleaning.
I agreed with him, slightly baffled not knowing where this is going. I thought it was about the payment.
We always pay up immediately when he does his collection rounds (or at the time if we’re in).

He then asked if I’d be in this morning, I said no told him I was going into the village. He wanted to know when I’d be back. I didn’t know. After gym I had a parcel to collect, usually have a little mooch around the shops might get some groceries, basically didn’t want to be held to a time (also, why??).
I’m getting annoyed with him now.

He then says ‘Doris says you’re off on Fridays’ ‘Doris’ being my ndn. I’m not sure what he thought the relevance of this is but he said it very accusingly almost like a ‘gotcha’

I just said ‘yes I am so I’m almost never going to home on Friday’, and went to walk off.

This is where his actual reason for all this questioning is revealed:

Basically his only access to the backs of our whole row of houses on the road is through our attached side garage.
If he can’t use our access he can only clean the fronts, and only charge half for everyone on the row.
I usually unlock the garage doors from the inside, Nigel and co troop through and do the back and the use everyone’s single storey back extension roofs to travel along the whole row. Thinking about it I now realise they come back and out through our garage afterwards, close the door behind them then I pop out and lock it after them.
Without over explaining he can’t access the rear of the other houses without going through the houses themselves, ladders buckets boots and all.

So after him explaining this to me, I think I was meant to say “gosh I didn’t realise, I’ll cancel my plans and go home and wait until your arrival”. Which I didn’t. I just said we’re usually in every day but Friday but if he persists with Friday I usually won’t be in.
He then asks (again) what time I’m usually back on Friday and I just say I’m out all day now, because by this point I cba.
He’s not exactly aggressive, but clearly quite annoyed about my lack of acquiescence and inconsideration of his requirements.
He just says ‘so you’ll be out again this morning then?’ As if this is just unbelievably selfish of me.

I walked off at this point but I’ve now decided I’m just going to cancel him and see what life is like without clean windows, perhaps hire the other chap who advertises on Facebook sometimes.
And Nigel can work out how to access his other customer’s windows without my help on Friday or any other week day.
Only issue is I don’t have Nigel’s number so will have to have another unpleasant face to face conversation.

YABU - you should just make sure you’re home on Friday morning to let Nigel in.

YANBU - continue to use your days off as you see fit and also fire Nigel.

OP posts:
Catza · 31/01/2025 14:48

Yeah, I can't be arsed with this so I cancelled out window cleaner ages ago. I work from home but they kept banging on the door when I am in the middle of the work call.
If the windows open, we can clean them ourselves. Sometimes it means sticking out half way through the open window to wash the middle bit but does the job and we only do it once every couple of months anyway.
Window cleaners are still a bit of a novelty to me after 25 years. Where I come from, windows open inwards so you do them yourself. The whole system in the UK is some kind of a semi-gangster set-up between windows manufacturers and cleaners.

User67556 · 31/01/2025 14:51

Gosh what a palaver. Yeah I'd cancel him, tell him it's too much hassle. Weird that no one else has a rear or side access to the back, strange set up.

parietal · 31/01/2025 14:53

can the neighbour (doris) let nigel in through your garage to do all the houses on a Friday?

Redshoeblueshoe · 31/01/2025 14:54

i'd cancel him, and refuse him access. Cheeky git.

Anonym00se · 31/01/2025 14:58

To be fair to Nigel, unless you said explicitly “I don’t want my windows cleaned any more” he’s going to assumed that you do and try and arrange a mutually convenient time to do it. It seems that you don’t want this, but for some reason you don’t want to tell him this. It sounds like crossed wires.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/01/2025 14:59

parietal · 31/01/2025 14:53

can the neighbour (doris) let nigel in through your garage to do all the houses on a Friday?

Slippery slope! Don't do it, OP. Doris is hand in (rubber) glove with Nigel.

We inherited our window cleaner too. It was 1995 and he had cleaned for the previous three occupants, IIRC. It must be coming up to half a century of cleaning the same windows now. Perhaps we should knock up some sort of certificate for him. He fell off a ladder a while back (fortunately not while doing our windows) and broke both ankles. When he was well enough to resume work, he got one of those systems with tubes and brushes, so no more ladders. God alone knows how old he is.

TianasBayou · 31/01/2025 15:03

Why didn't you simply say, he's welcome to come Monday-Thursday?

MumChp · 31/01/2025 15:05

Nice tax free money for Nigel... that's why he pushes it.

I wouldn't use him.

Paganpentacle · 31/01/2025 15:06

parietal · 31/01/2025 14:53

can the neighbour (doris) let nigel in through your garage to do all the houses on a Friday?

Why doesnt Doris let him in through her house and out her back door (ooh er) ?

Talipesmum · 31/01/2025 15:09

Both of your options seem a bit extreme. We have the same with a window cleaner who needs us to let him through the side gate. They message us to say when they will be coming and we message back to say if we will be in or not; if we won’t be in they arrange to come another day.

He’s likely been told by Doris that Fridays will work well because she thinks you are in. Obv this is wrong. Tell him Fridays are unlikely to ever work for you; suggest if he wants access to the row, he plans to come on Mon-Thurs and to contact you in advance to see if you will be around.

sammyspoon · 31/01/2025 15:14

As @Paganpentacle says surely they can access through Doris house... or any other neighbour who is in, then they can access the backs of all houses once they're through.

rwalker · 31/01/2025 15:17

Oh sound very unhelpful considering you’ve asked him to do the windows are you honing to be in and when will you be back aren’t anything but logical questions

the whole setup sounds a pain in the arse for everyone buy a window vac and do you own

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 31/01/2025 15:18

Did you ask him if he could try to come on a day other than Friday?

Juiceinacup · 31/01/2025 15:19

Surely gobby Nigel only needs one neighbour in the row in through their house to let him access all the houses, not sure I’d be that keen on anyone crawling across my extension roof though what if Nigel is a bit tubby and falls through?
But this palaver trying to control what you do on your day off would make me just cancel tbh. Cleaning your own windows is perfectly doable.
Any talking that needs to be done I’d get your DH to do it the Nigel’s off this world tend to take it better from a man.
Oh and have a word with Doris as well, she’s not the boss of what you do on a Friday.

purplecorkheart · 31/01/2025 15:22

Nigel, sounds as dodgy as hell. I would fire him and make it clear to him you will not be allowing him in your shed to access the other customers.

WallaceinAnderland · 31/01/2025 15:22

What did Nigel actually say about access on Fridays because much of what you posted is about what you think he was thinking. Poor communication possibly?

Hugmorecats · 31/01/2025 15:25

I've bought myself a window cleaning kit off Amazon, as I can't be bothered with all the back and forth emails needed to find a window cleaner around here.

Hugmorecats · 31/01/2025 15:26

You probably don't even need your windows cleaned once a month, do they really get that dirty?

BarnacleBeasley · 31/01/2025 15:26

Agree with PPs that Doris has probably got the wrong end of the stick and advised Nigel to come on your day off. If you see him next month, tell him to pick a different day, and if you don't, ask Doris to tell him.

@Catza I got new windows recently so can report that, fascinatingly, current regulations are that you have to be able to clean them yourself from the inside, at least for upstairs windows.

BarnacleBeasley · 31/01/2025 15:27

Hugmorecats · 31/01/2025 15:26

You probably don't even need your windows cleaned once a month, do they really get that dirty?

Mine get absolutely filthy, we live by the sea.

HanSB · 31/01/2025 15:35

I assume that he does a good job of cleaning the windows as you haven't mentioned the quality of the work. I think you are being a bit difficult and have just taken the way he spoke to you badly. All you need is to say that he is welcome to come anytime Monday to Thursday as you are always out on a Friday. Then it's up to him to arrange the work, obviously they used to come on the other days so they can do it again.

DazzlingCuckoos · 31/01/2025 15:35

YANBU. Our window cleaner uses his ladders to climb over the gate if we're not in and leaves a card in the letterbox when he's been so we can pay him online.

If he's making it this difficult I'd just find another window cleaner.

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Cynic17 · 31/01/2025 15:40

We have never had a window cleaner - it makes no difference. Just cancel, OP - life's too short to stress about trivia like this.