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To wonder why there isn’t public outrage about this?

873 replies

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 12:23

If a couple isn’t married but own their property between them, the surviving one will need to pay inheritance tax on their partners half of the house (and other assets) if they die.
Effectively they will lose their home to pay the IHT unless they also have huge savings.
How can that be allowed in this day and age when so many couples cohabit without getting married?

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WinterBones · 30/01/2025 13:01

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 12:52

Crickey, I didn’t think of that either. My family are really toxic so don’t want them having any control over me or my wellbeing. How does one specify who they want their next of kin to be?

it isn't just the control over your well being, if you died atm, your family could legally cut your partner out of anything to do with your funeral and burial.

Meadowfinch · 30/01/2025 13:01

Choosing to co-habit is a conscious choice NOT to form a legal partnership.

Putting wills in place doesn't solve it either because a partner can change their will without telling you.

I have allowed a boyfriend to move in with me in the past. This was certainly not an indication that I wanted to share my worldly goods with him. It just meant he was between jobs/home and I was being helpful on a temporary basis.

Legal marriage under the laws of England & Wales (or Scotland or Northeren Ireland) or a legally recognised civil partnership is the only way to protect yourself from IHT.

Nanny0gg · 30/01/2025 13:02

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 30/01/2025 12:30

If they don't want to enter into a contract then they don't get the benefits of that contract.

Fair enough.

^This

MotionIntheOcean · 30/01/2025 13:02

The state has provided you with two viable options, if this is the legal status you want your relationship to have. Just use one of them.

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 13:02

thehorsesareallidiots · 30/01/2025 12:57

Have you done any research into this? Or did you only just discover that marriage is a thing five minutes ago and are now stomping your foot about how it's not faaaaaaaaair?

Yep, it’s not fair for someone to lose their house when their partner dies because they need to pay IHT on half the properties value.

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DecafDodger · 30/01/2025 13:03

My point is that why shouldn’t cohabiting couples get the same legal protection as marriage

Because they don't want the same obligations either?

Nanny0gg · 30/01/2025 13:03

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 12:44

Blimey some snarky replies. I’m guessing that most of the other posters are either married or don’t have the assets to worry about IHT.
Thanks for the replies about joint tenancy though as that does reassure me that me and my partner won’t lose our home when one of us dies.

Or know how the law works

TallulahBetty · 30/01/2025 13:04

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 13:02

Yep, it’s not fair for someone to lose their house when their partner dies because they need to pay IHT on half the properties value.

Perfectly fair - you knew the rules.

notaquack · 30/01/2025 13:05

In Australia you have the same rights as a married couple after cohabiting for 2 years

MotionIntheOcean · 30/01/2025 13:05

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 13:02

Yep, it’s not fair for someone to lose their house when their partner dies because they need to pay IHT on half the properties value.

It's not fair for the state to have to bear the costs and resources of administering claims when, as will inevitably happen, it isn't clear who was cohabiting with whom and someone tries it on.

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 13:06

MotionIntheOcean · 30/01/2025 13:05

It's not fair for the state to have to bear the costs and resources of administering claims when, as will inevitably happen, it isn't clear who was cohabiting with whom and someone tries it on.

Yes, that is a fair point

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MotionIntheOcean · 30/01/2025 13:06

notaquack · 30/01/2025 13:05

In Australia you have the same rights as a married couple after cohabiting for 2 years

And the same loss of rights too? Because there's some of both, when you get married.

Panama2 · 30/01/2025 13:06

I haven’t read every post so apologies if already been said, but a lot of people still think being a Common Law wife or husband is a thing and it will afford them some rights and protection.

SoapySponge · 30/01/2025 13:06

Marriage is all about property and inheritance.

Been that way since the time of the Ancients.

The religious and "moral" aspects got tacked on to it a very long time afterwards.

justteanbiscuits · 30/01/2025 13:07

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 13:02

Yep, it’s not fair for someone to lose their house when their partner dies because they need to pay IHT on half the properties value.

But as has been pointed out, it's easy to solve with a civil partnership.

time4anothername · 30/01/2025 13:07

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/01/2025 12:52

You must be very wealthy if you are expecting that inheritance tax will be due on your estate. The position in the UK at the moment is something like this (I am not professionally qualified here):
First £325k of the estate is always tax-free
Everything you leave to your spouse or civil partner is tax-free
If a single person leaves their house to their children or grandchildren, another £175k tax-free allowance can potentially be added.
If a married person dies and leaves everything to their spouse, so their £325k + £175k is not used, on the death of the spouse their estate gets not just their own £325k + £175k but the unused allowances from the other spouse, so £1m in total.

So a married couple leaving a house and some savings to their children in most parts of the UK will be able to pass the whole lot with no question of tax.

I personally think marriage and civil partnerships are more relevant when relationships break down. An unmarried partner has no claim on the other partner's assets. People need to think long and hard about entering into a relationship where their finances become intertwined. Not getting married should be a positive choice taken with full information, not just something that happens because you haven't got the money together for a wedding or the right moment hasn't come along for a big proposal scene or your partner constantly fobs you off when you raise the subject or you mistakenly believe it's just a piece of paper.

Not necessarily very wealthy. If you die relatively young (e.g. 60ish) without children at a time when you have prepared for retirement so that you have half a property and funds in savings and pension (especially as pensions are no longer going to be IHT free from under 75s after recent budget).
Unmarried people without children to leave property to pay a lot more inheritance tax to the State than anyone else if they die with over £325k in assets.

Resilience · 30/01/2025 13:07

DH and I got married purely because of the legal implications of doing so. I am very ambivalent about marriage as a declaration of love/commitment and never felt any urge to be married. We had a registry office do with no guests. But the financial implications for us were important for long-term security on both sides so we got married.

I don't think that should change, as people should have the option of not tying themselves financially so closely with another person if they don't want to. Particularly in a society where living costs really incentivise people to live together when the relationship is otherwise not that committed.

However, there is a lot of ignorance around this. So many people still believe in the common-law status which just doesn't exist. I'd like to see this taught in PSHE as part of practical life skills/knowledge that all people should know (which could also include things like understanding interest rates in credit cards and mortgages).

I'd also like to see a slight change where children are involved, so that the parent with primary care has some protections even if unmarried, and child support needs to be tightened up significantly.

Brefugee · 30/01/2025 13:08

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 13:02

Yep, it’s not fair for someone to lose their house when their partner dies because they need to pay IHT on half the properties value.

Not fair? Are you 6?

This has been A Big Topic for decades. 🙄

MostHighlyFlavoredGravy · 30/01/2025 13:08

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 13:02

Yep, it’s not fair for someone to lose their house when their partner dies because they need to pay IHT on half the properties value.

Well you know what the remedy is now, don't you. Cohabiting couples are basically housemates from a legal perspective.

Tisthedamnseason · 30/01/2025 13:08

Might be easily solvable but a lot of couples don’t want to get married.

Well they (and everyone who does get married tbh) need to consider the benefits and negatives of getting married for them as a couple. But you can't decide not to get married because it doesn't work for you, and then want the benefits of being married.

Meadowfinch · 30/01/2025 13:09

Shrekjrre · 30/01/2025 12:57

What I don't understand is why people who chose to have children together don't get married

In my case, because DS was a (much wanted) accident.

I already owned my own home in a beautiful rural area, outright. Ds' dad is not good with money, and I would never risk ds' home.

Ds' dad also had different priorities and wanted to live in a city in the Midlands which is my idea of hell.

We've co-parented successfully for 16 years. I have no claim on his house. He has no claim on mine. It works for all of us.

thehorsesareallidiots · 30/01/2025 13:09

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 13:02

Yep, it’s not fair for someone to lose their house when their partner dies because they need to pay IHT on half the properties value.

The state has provided you with a cheap and simple bit of paperwork you could sign to clear you of that IHT - two in fact - and you've declined.

Wendolino · 30/01/2025 13:10

It's old news

TallulahBetty · 30/01/2025 13:10

Panama2 · 30/01/2025 13:06

I haven’t read every post so apologies if already been said, but a lot of people still think being a Common Law wife or husband is a thing and it will afford them some rights and protection.

Yes, it worries me how many people think this is a thing.

SoapySponge · 30/01/2025 13:10

MotionIntheOcean · 30/01/2025 13:06

And the same loss of rights too? Because there's some of both, when you get married.

As a retired IFA, I have known more that one "common law wife" made homeless because she did not think getting her partner to make a Will was necessary and she had some sort of claim on her partner's estate and "their" house.

Plus, if you're in Scotland, be aware that the Court of Session has effectively outlawed "marriages of habit and repute" as well.

Marriage. So much financial protection from one small piece of paper.