To think Princess Di was killed

[Lavenderfarmcottage]

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

Yes, the press attention was already becoming negative and critical about her unsuitable boyfriends and lavish lifestyle at the time of her death, when she suddenly morphed again into Saint Di. It would only have become more so had she lived. What was tolerable as a beautiful young woman who’d been betrayed by her older, less popular husband would have been far less so as she aged. Her cellulite or bingo wings would have featured in the tabloid. sidebar of shame, her boyfriends picked apart, and she’d have had some wintry times if she was still looking in her 40s and being constructed as ‘ageing playgirl’.

If you google "Devon Live," you will find that the locals there knew she was visiting Hewitts' mother's cottage long before the official version. In the early 1980s.
Cuckolding the heir to the throne would be a good motive for her to be got rid of.

Years ago, I spent a few years working in PR and communications in the insurance sector. One thing I remember from that time is how to think about risk. When a major disaster occurs, it's always as a result of numerous risk factors being present concurrently in a way that it would have been almost impossible to predict.

In the case of Diana's death, a drunk driver, in a major city at night, in a tunnel, no seat belt, Diana not terribly bright, Diana excited by a new relationship so not thinking straight, Diana distressed because of press attention, Diana used to having security sorted for her by professionals with decades of experience, Fayed senior and staff with no experience of keeping a world-famous person safe. There are probably other factors in addition.

Take away just one of those factors and the outcome could have been different. Eg driving on a country road rather than in a busy city, a member of staff at the Ritz intervening to say the proposed driver had had a drink so shouldn't drive, Dodi standing up to his father and insisting they stay at the Ritz after all. But they coincided. The result was a fatal accident. There was no conspiracy!

I don’t think they are MN users & I don’t think an MN thread changes the extraordinary level of attention on this family. Princess Diana is an icon and will be a historical figure, it’s reasonable to care. My Dad’s coronial file was closed and answers denied - I only wish there’d been some attention and care. I suppose I can’t relate to people caring too much.

I sad at the time the whole thing was a set up, she wasn’t in the car really. The royal family spirited her away and imprisoned her somewhere like Glamis Castle. She’s still there now, tucked away like Bertha Rochester in the attics.

The Woman In White was being televised at that time and something very similar happened to the heroine.

Annie Machon - loads of vids on YouTube, she is ex MI5 and talks about the task they were working on - very similar - assassination of the then Serb leader in a tunnel with a strobe light - Guardian articles still available on the matter. Her and David Shayler.

@Lavenderfarmcottage

You raise an interesting point at the last lines of your post.

Diana was not wearing a seat belt which is compulsory. I hope that we all - when driving our DCs - say "we are not moving till you are all strapped in". Why on earth did the driver say something similar to the passengers and refuse to move. He was reputedly speeding recklessly too

Be careful OP, it sounds like you’ve discovered the truth, they’ll be after you next!

I remember reading one crackpot theory that the music playing where Diana was before she got into the car had a subliminal "don't wear a seatbelt" message. Then again they also claimed the motive for the assassination was Diana threatening to reveal that the Queen was a reptilian so it's anyone's guess what the truth is. People will come up with anything.

I suppose it's difficult when the people you're trying to bend to your will are your employer's relatives.

I don't really care what you say, nobody could have known for sure that night that Diana and Dodi would even decide to leave the Ritz hotel that night, let alone what route they would take. That was all decided at the last minute so very unlikely that a car accident could have been engineered.

It was a very unfortunate and entirely preventable accident, but not because it was an assassination attempt. It wasn't. If it was then it was a very careless and scattergun approach because Diana was with three others in the car. Three people died, not just one. There was also no guarantee that she would die (though we know that of course she sadly did) because sometimes people do escape from even the most horrendous accidents.

For Christ’s sake.

If the Royal Family had wanted to have her killed, there were a multitude of other more subtle and sure to kill ways than a car accident, with the many many variables involved.

This is a conspiracy theory which makes believers come across as incredibly stupid.

Ummm it was 1997.

is this your Roman Empire ?

my current Roman Empire amongst many are Slow Horses, Amanda’s dance in Motherland , Danny Dyer in Rivals , when I’m blocking the serious scary ones.

Agree. When I turned the TV that day, it was on mute with a picture of her in the corner of the screen and my first thought was 'what's she done now?'. She still received a LOT of media coverage.

I think that had she lived, she would have enjoyed her freedom for a while but eventually settled down. I think she would have been a lovely mother in law and grandmother because she clearly adored her boys.

Not this again.

How long ago was it?

She died because her driver was drunk and she, along with the other people in the car who didn't wear a seat belt.

People had been campaigning on land mines before Diana. But she brought a lot of publicity to it and raised the issue to a backwater one, to an issue with international prominence. She and others were very close to getting a ban. After Diana died, the issue disappeared into the backwaters again.

Totally agree. It's bollocks.

Chances are pretty high if you’re not wearing a seatbelt during a high speed chase. Especially if the driver has been drinking.

You’re obviously entitled to your opinion but you haven’t presented any evidence at all, just vague notions about the arms industry etc.

I agree.
She was kind and cared about people.

Prince Philip, a man of deep religious belief (as witnessed by his staff), married to the head of the Church of England. A man who loved his grandsons (as they have said).

Decides to have his grandsons' 36-year-old mother killed--a woman he personally seemed fond of, even after the breakup.

OK.

You do realise this has already been suggested right OP? A few times.

I mean, to be fair, these are examples of things that happened after she died.

I wouldn't be surprised if she was killed. I find it very odd that there are so many films about all the corruption etc that goes on behind the scenes but people don't believe that it happens in real life.

Something to bear in mind: it only became compulsory to wear a seatbelt in the back seat of a car in 1991 and at that time many cars still didn't have them fitted (not the car Diana was in obviously). For many years a lot of people just didn't bother wearing them. It was the driver's responsibility to ensure that their passengers wore them and this caused a bit of a tricky situation with the passengers saying "Oh don't worry about me!!" and the driver thinking "I'm not particularly worried about you - I'm worried about you being catapulted into the back of my seat and killing me!".

The press coverage of her was enormous. People were interested in her and what she wore.
The sea of flowers were because people really cared about her.

Such strange comments on here - 'how could they have done it', 'difficult to engineer', etc. Has anyone asked - how come she was switched off life support so swiftly - bang - pronounced dead, being young, healthy and strong. For comparison, Arien Sharon was kept in a vegetative state/medicated coma for 9 years - and he was over 80, obese, diabetic, ischaemic heart disease sufferer with Leriche syndrome. (Not a single bed sore, by the way, in the 9 years of coma, being morbidly obese).

Records are available describing the events - a play was put on in London about 4 years ago, where they used this documentary evidence to describe one thing - how they ferried her around and around, near hospitals and never stopping at the nearest ones. And how, just before they arrived at the last hospital, the ambulance stopped and started rocking severely, from side to side (the play suggested Diana came round, realised what they were doing to her and started physically fighting, that is why the ambulance was rocking). The official version - 'CPR attempted, that is why the ambulance was rocking'.

Even if THEY had nothing to do with the accident, the plug was pulled so quickly, there was no hope of any recovery, ever - compare that to months of through the courts fighting when they try to discontinue life support provision to brain dead people on the NHS.