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To think Princess Di was killed

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Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 15:35

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

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JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 22:42

BMW6 · 28/01/2025 22:39

Perhaps in another week or two Dodi would have been so enraptured by Diana he'd have accepted her news that she was pregnant by another bloke with aplomb you reckon?

Grandpappy Mohammed Al Fayed just as thrilled?

You think?😂

We have zero idea id Dianas relationship with Dodi would have lasted much longer anyway.
I think Diana being a single mum is far more likely

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:44

GreenApplesRedApplesYellowApples · 28/01/2025 21:19

Again. Harry didn't matter by the time he married Meghan. He was unimportant as there were now three direct heirs to the throne, with Catherine still in the baby making game. He could probably have married the stable cleaner at Balmoral and it would have been permitted, rather than put up with the fuss and fallout. It would have been rather strange that Meghan was allowed in his orbit at all if that wasn't the case.

The question is would William have been allowed to marry a mixed raced twice (if rumours are true) divorced actress approaching the end of her fecundity?

Now that's where you really would have seen if race, age, and station matters.

None of what you say makes sense.

So the potential mixed race half sibling of the future king - a child who would be in no way a member of the royal family - is worth murdering along with its mother, but the then 4th in line to the throne marrying a mixed race woman and having mixed race children is unimportant? Riddle me that.

Also there were direct heirs to the throne when Diana died. Unless you thought the palace were deeply concerned that William hadn’t fathered a child at 15?

Zone2NorthLondon · 28/01/2025 22:46

Conspiracies are exciting, salacious and have a hook
Truth is more prosaic but at least bears scrutiny
But those inclined to conspiracy theories and ohh ahh simply won’t let truth get in way of a good story

AcquadiP · 28/01/2025 22:47

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 22:01

@Serenster The papers were full of rumours that Diana was pregnant before her death. Diana said she had an announcement to make.

Papers in the UK or France?

Diana and Dodi were only a couple for two months. I doubt very much if she would have allowed herself to fall pregnant to someone she barely knew and she wasn't married to. Diana was much smarter than that.

I've always felt the announcement was that she was going to live abroad (away from the intrusive British press.)

BMW6 · 28/01/2025 22:48

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 22:42

We have zero idea id Dianas relationship with Dodi would have lasted much longer anyway.
I think Diana being a single mum is far more likely

Still not willing to speculate who's the Daddy I see 🤣

And you STILL have her shagging one fella whilst pregnant with another's.

Classy.

She'll be having Words With You if you ever end up in the same place!

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 22:49

AcquadiP · 28/01/2025 22:47

Papers in the UK or France?

Diana and Dodi were only a couple for two months. I doubt very much if she would have allowed herself to fall pregnant to someone she barely knew and she wasn't married to. Diana was much smarter than that.

I've always felt the announcement was that she was going to live abroad (away from the intrusive British press.)

Papers in the UK. You can read them online at newspaper archive

Serenster · 28/01/2025 22:51

GreenApplesRedApplesYellowApples · 28/01/2025 22:26

But you do have independent experts and engineers work on crash cases. Airplane crashes come to mind. I can't see a conflict in BMW engineers looking at the wreckage, providing reports and feeding back to police. Surely this happens in accidents in which specialist tech may have failed? I can the timeline and occurrence of events being part of the police investigation, but I can't see police doing all the technical work themselves. Isn't this why expert witnesses are called to give evidence in cases that the police don't have technical remit in?

Happy to be corrected however!

So the Mercedes technical specialists were consulted by the investigators - they provided crash test data etc - because the investigation team would likely have wanted to know what was normal and expected about the vehicle’s condition to help them establish if anything was unusual. But the Mercedes team were providing information, not inspecting the vehicle themselves or drawing any conclusions.

And the police will use technical experts on cases yes, but they will be contracted and paid for by the police - so they are not independent in a technical sense of being completely impartial. They also will generally have a pool of experts on various topics so they are dealing with people who “know the drill” so to speak, so they are less likely to make silly mistakes.

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:52

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 28/01/2025 21:32

She was, but the cracks were beginning to show. There's only so long you can play the victim, while behaving badly yourself.

I would love to have seen the trajectory of her life continue, because whatever she was or was not, she was endlessly fascinating. I do think that her relationships going forward would always have put her in the spotlight. I don't think she spent as much time with her boys as she wanted the public to think. They must have been as damaged by her unwise relationships as they were by Charles's relationship with Camilla. At least Charles was in love with Camilla, and has remained in a stable relationship.

I’m sure when she died they hadn’t seen her for 4 weeks. Given they were at boarding school you think she’d want to spend at least some of the summer holidays with them rather than her latest playboy squeeze

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:56

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 28/01/2025 21:40

The affairs clashed massively with her public image. The 'sainted' Diana breaking up marriages, and having to be spoken to by the police for harassment (think it was Oliver Hoare, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm going on my memory!)

The men involved were not the Princess of Wales. The same Princess who batted her eyelashes and sadly opined that there were three people in her marriage. She couldn't have it both ways!

Totally agree. Julia Carling rightly pointed out that given Diana wanged on about how damaging Charles’s affair was you think she wouldn’t do it to someone else. They had two kids as well

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 22:56

BMW6 · 28/01/2025 22:48

Still not willing to speculate who's the Daddy I see 🤣

And you STILL have her shagging one fella whilst pregnant with another's.

Classy.

She'll be having Words With You if you ever end up in the same place!

This is horrible. What would be the matter with seeing a man while pregnant with an exes baby?
Such misogyny.

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:58

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 21:44

You can if you make sure it does not work

How did they magically know she was going to be in that (eleventh hour) car at that specific time - they did very so well to destroy a seatbelt with about 10 minutes notice in the middle of a capital city!

Serenster · 28/01/2025 22:58

You don’t think it might have damaged her image with the public a bit though, JoyousGreyOrca?

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:59

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 21:49

A PR firm has been able to reinvent Camilla because Diana died. It means lots of false things are now routinely claimed about Diana.

Such as?

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:59

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 21:50

The functionality of the seatbelts was not independently tested

Yes they were. By two different sources

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:01

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:52

I’m sure when she died they hadn’t seen her for 4 weeks. Given they were at boarding school you think she’d want to spend at least some of the summer holidays with them rather than her latest playboy squeeze

They were with Charles. They had a 50/50 arrangement. And Diana saw William and Harry in July, she died in August. She spoke to them on the phone the night before she died.
Or do you think fathers do not have the right to see their children?

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:02

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:59

Such as?

That Charles and Camillas affair started after Charles and Diana separated. Diana said it was throughout their marriage. Just one example.

Serenster · 28/01/2025 23:02

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:52

I’m sure when she died they hadn’t seen her for 4 weeks. Given they were at boarding school you think she’d want to spend at least some of the summer holidays with them rather than her latest playboy squeeze

I’m sure if Diana had known it would be her last summer she would have prioritised spending time with her sons! Obviously she didn’t know that though, and had just broken up with someone she apparently felt very strongly about and had wanted to marry. So she accepted invitations to spend time with friends and had a holiday romance. She also did some work, and attended a high profile funeral. Yes she didn’t see her children much that summer, but you do need to look at that in context.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 28/01/2025 23:03

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:02

That Charles and Camillas affair started after Charles and Diana separated. Diana said it was throughout their marriage. Just one example.

It wasn't throughout their marriage.

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:04

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 28/01/2025 23:03

It wasn't throughout their marriage.

So Charles claims. Diana said differently

MissRoseDurward · 28/01/2025 23:05

Given they were at boarding school you think she’d want to spend at least some of the summer holidays with them rather than her latest playboy squeeze

Weren't they with her during the earlier part of her holiday with the al Fayeds? Then they went to spend the second part of their summer holiday at Balmoral.

Serenster · 28/01/2025 23:08

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 22:56

This is horrible. What would be the matter with seeing a man while pregnant with an exes baby?
Such misogyny.

Also, if Diana had already been pregnant at the start of July when she, William and Harry first went to stay with Mohammed Al Fayed, that would not have been a very early pregnant 8 weeks later on 31 August when she died. I think such a pregnancy would have been noticed in the autopsy…

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:09

MissRoseDurward · 28/01/2025 23:05

Given they were at boarding school you think she’d want to spend at least some of the summer holidays with them rather than her latest playboy squeeze

Weren't they with her during the earlier part of her holiday with the al Fayeds? Then they went to spend the second part of their summer holiday at Balmoral.

Yes this is what happened. Charles and Diana had 50/50 custody. So they were with Charles.

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:10

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 21:59

Really!! You obviously only read the Royalist press. Not the press about her laughing at exotic throat singers, laughing at Native dancers, etc.
Camilla has friends in all the right places to make sure she gets good press coverage.

I saw the throat dancing laughter. It was funny 🤷‍♀️

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 28/01/2025 23:10

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:56

Totally agree. Julia Carling rightly pointed out that given Diana wanged on about how damaging Charles’s affair was you think she wouldn’t do it to someone else. They had two kids as well

Exactly! You can't complain about having something done to you and then do exactly the same yourself, without censure!

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:10

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:10

I saw the throat dancing laughter. It was funny 🤷‍♀️

It was a sign of their racism

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