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To think Princess Di was killed

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Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 15:35

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

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JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:11

Zone2NorthLondon · 28/01/2025 22:03

Thing about conspiracy theorists is one cannot utilise logic or fact when trying to disavow them of their “theory”. Conspiracy theorists have a fixed view that they wont deviate from. Essentially ot gets reduced to their yea but…no but…batshit theories

And the catch all of “Oh yeah the report may say that but it’s LYING”.

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:12

Flindersonbark2896 · 28/01/2025 22:30

I don't tend to believe in conspiracy theories but was confused by several things relating to Henri-Paul.

The video of him standing in the foyer waiting for the lift which carried Dodi and Diana down to the ground floor is interesting because it shows HP bending down very niftily and tying his shoe laces and standing up again without a wobble. Strange for someone who was twice over the British legal limit.

This could be explained if he was a functioning alcoholic which his parents apparently denied but they were hardly unbiased.

The interesting thing though was not the equivalent of £102,000 in his thirteen different bank accounts when he died, and the equivalent of £2,000 in cash in his pocket, which could easily have been explained by him carrying out, or covering up, certain nefarious activities for Fayed, but the fact that in 1997, he was spending £600 a week on flying lessons.

The flying lessons are interesting because only three days before the crash, Paul passing an intensive medical examination for flying lessons which showed no signs of alcohol abuse. He apparently had a clean liver which is odd for a functioning alcoholic?

https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/questions-that-won-t-go-away-6977861.html

The fact that the French authorities apparently couldn't trace the four ambulance drivers who stretchered Diana aboard the ambulance is odd to me as surely call-outs are all logged and they each have call numbers etc?

Equally odd is all of the stuff about Anderson photographer and the driver of the white Uno being found dead in his burned out car, with the door locked on the outside, 100 miles from where he told his family he was driving.

According to the article, "A month later, Andanson's offices in Paris - at the French HQ of the photo agency SIPA - were raided by three armed men in balaclavas. They shot a security guard in the foot, held screaming staff hostage for three hours before leaving with laptops, hard disks and cameras. The staff's frantic calls to the police went unheeded."

Also the issue of the cameras in the Alma tunnel?

Does anyone have further or better information on any of this? Have any of them been discredited since the article was published in 2012?

And nobody has addressed these points

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 28/01/2025 23:12

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:04

So Charles claims. Diana said differently

So what is your evidence for believing one over the other?

Especially since the allegations against both of them appear to show that Diana was the first of them to be unfaithful?

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 28/01/2025 23:13

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:12

And nobody has addressed these points

Yes it's clearly a conspiracy!!!!

Zone2NorthLondon · 28/01/2025 23:15

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:11

And the catch all of “Oh yeah the report may say that but it’s LYING”.

Of course,reports,facts and such things are merely confections to obfuscate
Only the inquisitive skills of the conspiracy theorists see the institutional lies for what they are
Thank heavens these theorists don’t get distracted by fact or let logic get in the way

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:15

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 22:06

It really was not

It really was.

Take a look at the statistics

Also why do you think there was a massive anti drink driving campaign in the 90’s if it wasn’t socially acceptable?

Phthia · 28/01/2025 23:15

Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 15:56

She wasn’t reckless, how could you say such a thing. There was nothing reckless about her lifestyle. She trusted the paid driver of her billionaire boyfriend.

Of course she was reckless. This is the woman who apparently threw herself dramatically downstairs, who made herself sick to keep her figure, who went after several really unsuitable men. She was the epitome of recklessness.

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:17

@Phthia Diana had bulimia. You think having bulimia is a character flaw to criticise someone for?

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:18

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 22:08

Except I am not relying on memory. I went back and read lots of articles.

You read all the article relating to Princess Diana in the time this thread has started? Do you keep these in your bedside drawer?

Look there’s no formality of “We the Press are saying Diana is factually not as popular”. It’s just what people know.

I admire your commitment to the cause but saying “No it isn’t” “No she didn’t” whilst providing no sources is getting rather silly

quantumbutterfly · 28/01/2025 23:18

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:03

It’s also worth noting that drink driving was far more socially acceptable in 1997 than it is now.

not in UK it wasn't.

healthybychristmas · 28/01/2025 23:19

BMW6 · 28/01/2025 15:50

One of her last public statements to the Press was along the lines of "Watch what I do next!"
So maybe she arranged her own death via getting the driver pissed and leaving off her seat belt.

No?

No, that's crazy talk.

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:19

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 22:10

Why the nastiness?
I do not know who the father was. It may have been a very early pregnancy.

Well she’s very perceptive then given she was only seeing Dodi for 3 weeks, she knew she was 1 weeks pregnant and teased it to the press. Amazing!

Phthia · 28/01/2025 23:20

Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 16:39

Maybe someone broke the seat belts prior so that they didn’t function.

Do you imagine the bodyguard would have allowed the journey to continue if three out of four seatbelts were mysteriously broken? Or indeed that Diana would have continued with it? It's not as if Fayed couldn't afford to maintain his cars properly.

Plus, it would have been incredibly easy to check. The evidence would be there after the crash.

Serenster · 28/01/2025 23:21

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:12

And nobody has addressed these points

Because they are inaccurate and misleading? You can read about them here.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_about_the_death_of_Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 28/01/2025 23:22

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:17

@Phthia Diana had bulimia. You think having bulimia is a character flaw to criticise someone for?

Don't you think that Charles might have found that difficult to deal with, given that his wife was already so much younger, so much less intellectual, and with very different interests?

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:23

Serenster · 28/01/2025 22:14

You are repeating plenty of untruths yourself though.

Indeed

So we have: an agent (MI5 apparently) who infiltrated Fayed’s security outfit that Diana was using, who was so quick and whip smart he arranged the breaking of all the Ritz car seatbelts AND Diana’s cars seatbelts within a 30 minute time limit, except for one I’m guess he was as hoping she didn’t use, and magically made the car go at high speed. For reasons not yet understood

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:24

BMW6 · 28/01/2025 22:20

YOU'RE the one casting aspersions on Diana!

YOU'RE the one claiming she was pregnant by someone - other than Dodi Al Fayed who she'd only just met - so who is this mysterious Daddy?

You are painting her in a very bad light. Shame on you, I doubt she'd thank you for your nasty speculation.

Apparently the RF spread lies about Diana posthumously but still waiting to hear what those lies are

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:25

IdaGlossop · 28/01/2025 22:20

I don't only read the royalist press and am generally critical of the Royal family's privilege and approaches to further enriching themselves. That's the story royal correspondents should be covering. It's quite clear she racist. She was one of several members of the family struggling to contain their amusement at Harry and Meghan's wedding during the American preacher's sermon. No way should she be inviting Jeremy Clarkson after his offensive pronouncements on Meghan Markle. I suspect she's also lazy. Now, she knows how to play individual journalists but that's not always been the case.

Edited

She didn’t I invite Jeremy Clarkson to anything TBF. They went to the same even before that article was published

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:26

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 22:26

You think suggesting a woman may have been pregnant is casting aspersions?

I have noticed a lot of misogyny in the criticisms of Diana. The idea a woman could be pregnant by a man she is no longer in a relationship with is characterised as something terrible on the character of the woman. Very misognistic

No one is saying it’s disgusting that she was pregnant. We are saying she was not pregnant. Because there’s no evidence to suggest she was.

GreenApplesRedApplesYellowApples · 28/01/2025 23:28

Serenster · 28/01/2025 22:51

So the Mercedes technical specialists were consulted by the investigators - they provided crash test data etc - because the investigation team would likely have wanted to know what was normal and expected about the vehicle’s condition to help them establish if anything was unusual. But the Mercedes team were providing information, not inspecting the vehicle themselves or drawing any conclusions.

And the police will use technical experts on cases yes, but they will be contracted and paid for by the police - so they are not independent in a technical sense of being completely impartial. They also will generally have a pool of experts on various topics so they are dealing with people who “know the drill” so to speak, so they are less likely to make silly mistakes.

Ok thanks!

AcquadiP · 28/01/2025 23:30

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 22:58

How did they magically know she was going to be in that (eleventh hour) car at that specific time - they did very so well to destroy a seatbelt with about 10 minutes notice in the middle of a capital city!

'Magically' being the operative word - even the SAS couldn't have pulled this off!

Phthia · 28/01/2025 23:32

Thindog · 28/01/2025 16:41

It's very strange that a doctor happened to be first on the scene, and that the ambulance took so long to get her to the hospital. It's very strange that her second son looks like the lover she had before he was born.
In fact the whole of the monarchy is very strange. .

The first person on scene was a film maker who had previously been a dental surgeon. He was in a flat very nearby and came out because he was worried the crash might involve a friend of his who had just left his flat. Nothing strange about that at all.

As for the ambulance, at the time it was normal paramedic practice in France to try to stabilise patients at the scene rather than rush them straight to hospital.

The really strange thing is how many people look for conspiracies rather than accept perfectly logical explanations of things that aren't odd at all. The reality is that most of these theories were invented by Fayed, as were the supporting "facts", because he was desperate to divert blame from himself.

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 23:32

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 23:01

They were with Charles. They had a 50/50 arrangement. And Diana saw William and Harry in July, she died in August. She spoke to them on the phone the night before she died.
Or do you think fathers do not have the right to see their children?

I think if your kids are in boarding school and you hardly see them anyway you’d fight for an arrangement whereby you spend some of the summer holidays with them. Rather than nobbing about on a yacht with some random bloke and risking your life in a car

Especially when you’d spent the last few years embarrassing your kids and being a generally shit parent

Serenster · 28/01/2025 23:33

The only people who would have been able to pull this off would be the operatives from Hunted. 🤣

GreenApplesRedApplesYellowApples · 28/01/2025 23:34

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 28/01/2025 23:12

So what is your evidence for believing one over the other?

Especially since the allegations against both of them appear to show that Diana was the first of them to be unfaithful?

I think Charles was probably emotionally unfaithful first. Sex is merely the technical bit. Wasn't the honeymoon an emotional disaster for Diana? Though I can vaguely remember all this stuff anymore.

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