To think Princess Di was killed

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There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

Who are you accusing of making sure it did not work?

And how, given that no-one knew they would be using that car?

Drunk Driver chauffeur
No seat belt, blunt force trauma and internal injuries RTA at high speed. In RTA at speed organs are compressed and displaced
Critically ill at scene and deteriorated in ED as a result of injuries sustained

It really isn’t any more difficult than that

It is a big reach that the accident was a purposeful event, that no one has ever been indiscreet about, No one has ever got drunk in a bar and disclosed? No one has had mental health crisis as a result of keeping schtum?

It was an unfortunate set of events entirely consistent with an RTA at high speed and no seat belt

I think I did somehow!

Excellent summation of what happened. Recall reading from a specialist her condition as being just how you described. Sitting side on, and without a belt, the abrupt stop at 90 plus mph effectively ripped her heart out from its place.

She had been accustomed to travelling at high speeds to escape the paparazzi constantly following her and had become too comfortable as her lack of safety measures, ie. no seat belt and sitting so casually at that speed, ultimately cost her. That and being driven by someone who wasn't in a fit state to drive.

So no she wasn't killed. She was just foolish to put herself in that position.

In terms of OP's comment about landmines, there is no doubt she was making a huge impact. As the most photographed (and most popular) woman on the planet she shone a light on whatever issue she aligned herself with. The image of her shaking hands with the Aids patient, or meeting that homeless man on the street (can still see the shock on his face), she was exceptionally effective at bringing attention to issues that were otherwise ignored/looked down upon.

Of all the married-in Royal women, Camilla is by far the most impressive when it comes to her reaction - or lack of - to negative press coverage. She was reviled relentlessly for years in the most vulgar ways possible, her character and appearance attacked. She kept herself out of sight, with never a whisper of a reaction. Then, she was a model of restraint and grace when the time arrived for her to be introduced to the public. Now she is fully in the public eye as the consort of the head of state, she is always in good humour, knowing about the long-tail of nastiness in her wake. Admirable resiliance.

I think it was an accident. I also think the Royal family have used Dianas death to rewrite history about her.
I also think she probably was pregnant before her death.

If you read my post upthread on this exact topic, I’d be interested to know why you think that?

Really!! You obviously only read the Royalist press. Not the press about her laughing at exotic throat singers, laughing at Native dancers, etc.
Camilla has friends in all the right places to make sure she gets good press coverage.

This is perfect. A lovely twist at the end. OP all your answers are here.

You can't be serious, she bought the press off by throwing all the other royals under the bus and giving them negative stories about them to prevent stories being published about her.

Don't get me wrong, it's impressive from a PR perspective, but it didn't come out of nowhere. And I saw her at the coronation laughing at Lindsay Hoyle's accent for being a northerner.

@Serenster The papers were full of rumours that Diana was pregnant before her death. Diana said she had an announcement to make.

Even the pathologist involved in the case says if she had simply wore the seat belt this would be an entirely different story. A suicide or assignation by a foreign party would have been easier to engineer than a tragic crash where the deciding variable is her not wearing a seatbelt

It’s also worth noting that drink driving was far more socially acceptable in 1997 than it is now.

Thing about conspiracy theorists is one cannot utilise logic or fact when trying to disavow them of their “theory”. Conspiracy theorists have a fixed view that they wont deviate from. Essentially ot gets reduced to their yea but…no but…batshit theories

But Harry HAD to get permission from QE2 to marry Meghan - if she was so racist surely short of murdering her she’d just say no?

I don’t think she was important enough to be bumped off. She really didn’t have any influence or significance other than being increasingly embarrassing tabloid fodder.

People forget that she was not the saint the hysteria following her death made her out to be. Her popularity was definitely on the wane in the run up to her death. Her many affairs, documented stalkerish behaviour, manipulation of the press and non-stop holidays were beginning to attract criticism.

She might have lent her name to the land mines issue, but she had absolutely no clue about politics or the related issues of the time. I remember her being confronted in Angola with the accusation of being a ‘loose cannon’ and politically ill-informed and it was like the journalist was speaking to a bewildered child.

I’m sure there were members of the inner circle that weren’t too saddened by her death, especially after the debacle of the panorama interview, but ultimately she made bad choices and had the misfortune to be not wearing a seat-belt in a speeding car driven by a drunk man ill-equipped to drive it even when sober let alone when pissed and being pursued by paparazzi. There’s no way it was orchestrated.

It really was on the turn. We obviously have differing memories but any well documented book or documentary will tell you that that summer unfavourable articles started to appear

It really was not

I love this. Brilliant.

Except I am not relying on memory. I went back and read lots of articles.

So she was carrying Hasnat Khan's baby? She knew she was pregnant by him but was shagging Dodi Al Fayed?

Or was she pregnant by some other unknown bloke?

You're not doing her any favours are you.

With friends like you.............🙄

Which is not an issue. The police - both here and in France - have their own forensic experts and conduct their own forensic processes because they are the one who conduct the investigation (that is literally their job). They are the experts in criminal evidence gathering rules and processes, which are finicky and extremely strict.

If you start bringing in independent experts you are likely to wind up with an issue that makes that evidence inadmissible.

Apparently the pillar had legs, ran away and has never been found according to a PP 🤣

Why the nastiness?
I do not know who the father was. It may have been a very early pregnancy.

I don't think the viciousness of tabloids has ever been in doubt, but I don't believe it tells you anything about how the public feel. Perhaps only what the tabloids would like the public to feel. It also would not affect public views abroad, where people don't read English tabloids, and she was popular all over the world.