To think Princess Di was killed

[Lavenderfarmcottage]

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

I don't think think you categorically say that. I highly doubt that the Royal Family don't have influence beyond what is obvious to us commoners.

I don't think they would have to directly order anything. I think other players would on their behalf or in their own interests with the RF possible reluctant benefactors by proxy.

But all this emotional projection of how PP feels is in my opinion misplaced. His childhood experiences are by-the-by. He was absolutely loyal to the Queen at the end of the day and given a choice he'd come down on the side of her and the institution, not Diana who, you could argue , fulfilled her usefulness after producing two heirs and certainly had no usefulness as a single woman capable of connecting those future heirs to the throne with any number of wholly unsuitable step-fathers.

There was everything reckless about her lifestyle. Needing to be seen with money, shagging other women’s husbands as standard, including Dodi, fact is that it would have been better for the RF to keep her alive because she was starting to become an embarrassment and her popularity absolutely was on the downturn.

The only reason people remember her as a saint is because the press had to do an about-turn due to the fact that she died while being pursued for photographs.

She was in fact incredibly manipulative, had no thought for the people whose lives she had a part in destroying by sleeping with their husbands.

If she’d stayed alive I have little doubt she would have done everything to appear in the limelight, although she’d have been too old for “I’m a celebrity” but I don’t doubt for a minute she would have ended up on instagram and any other social media.

I don’t think she’d have done I’m a Celeb, too vulgar. But Strictly? Absolutely. A tango in the revenge dress! Maybe an upbeat eighties disco number in the iconic gym outfits? A waltz in the don’t do it, Di wedding gown. Having conniptions just thinking about it!

I don't think they would have to directly order anything. I think other players would on their behalf or in their own interests with the RF possible reluctant benefactors by proxy.

As I said above, she was living in Kensington Palace, a royal property.

Why go to all the trouble of arranging an elaborate scenario in a foreign country when they could have just poisoned her crumpets?

I agree I preferred the world with her in it. So sad for her sons. She was one of a kind, who reached out to people suffering and was very brave in the actions she took and causes she supported: homelessness, leprosy, land mines, AIDS, always with great kindness and humility. There's a peculiar effort to downplay how remarkable she was, as can be seen in recent films and TV series. She was most definitely loved all over the world, as those of us from that time remember. I hope she wasn't killed, but if she was, I'm fairly certain we will never know the truth about it.

Yeah, there are definitely people who you'd think would get bumped off before Diana!

I think he has something in his smile that's a bit...saucy... possibly.

Well we could ask the one surviving member of the crash.... but he has no memory of it

She was unfortunately in an RTA with a driver who was inebriated. That’s it. No conspiracy. No sketchy hidden narrative
Only bulgy eyed conspiracy theorists and dullards believe the half baked rumours and theories. There are some thickos out there

Too obvious.

Accident abroad no hands can be seen.

Call me crazy but I've always thought the Royal family had something to do with it.

She’d be alive today if she’d worn a seat belt. And probably would be if the driver wasn’t over the limit

All they would have to do would be to stage a suicide. She was mentally unstable enough at times that everyone would have believed it.

Thing about it,conspiracy theories rely non silence and no one ever breaching confidence or getting drunk in a bar and revealing it. No mental health crisis with burden of holding a huge secret

If you go through the timeline of what happned that night, Diana and Dodi’s movements were entirely unpredictable, which pretty much rules out any kind of sabotage of the car they ended up driving. A few examples:

The stay in Paris on the way back to London was unplanned, and was a whim of Dodi’s. Diana was expecting to be back in London.
Because of this, no-one at the British Embassy had any idea Diana was in Paris.
The couple were staying the night at Dodi’s apartment. They had reservations for dinner at a Parisian restaurant, but due to paparazzi attention on the drive there Dodi suggested they travel to the Ritz and dine there instead. So they changed destination while en route.
After dinner Dodi and Henri Paul cooked up a decoy plan to get them back to his apartment - the car and driver they’d been using all that day would drive to the front of the hotel as if it was waiting for the couple to emerge. Meantime they’d leave via the back.
Henri Paul nominated himself to be the driver of the car to take them back to Dodi’s apartment. They used a car from the Ritz’s fleet, which was driven up from the hotel’s garage to the road behind the hotel.
Some paparazzi weren’t fooled by the decoy trick and went to the back entrance. They snapped photos as the car was leaving, so Diana sat side-on with her back to the rear passenger door, so they couldn’t see her face. It’s impossible to wear a seatbelt in that position.

Etc etc. It was a really tragic accident, because even a tiny change in the lead up could have meant a completely different outcome, but sadly it didn’t, and three people died.

The biggest issue for me was the sheer time it took for the ambulance to arrive. An hour and forty five minutes after the crash she finally arrived at the hospital, that always felt off to me having used that tunnel and I know its location.

I don’t believe it was the RF for a moment, but i know the Al Fayeds had lots of enemies, so I have always wondered about that.

Massive cover up JFK.

And yet, as has been said, Diana's plans changed at the last minute. Henri Paul, who wasn't a professional driver, just decided to drive the car for a lark. And more.

It's simply not possible this was a pre planned hit.

You have too much time on your hands

Diana's popularity was on the wane. She admitted to several affaires in her interview, and was known to have had at least 4 affaires, some with married men.
I don't think the French would have lied to the British about the findings, etc (that the driver was over the limit, etc).
If anyone 'killed' her you could as easily blame the BBC and Martin Bashir, whose concocted and false documents led to her not using normal security, and instead on this occassion relying on Mohamed Al Fayed's detectives and driver. The driver did not expect to be driving that night, and had been drinking in the bar. They were creating a diversion by having another driver at the front of the hotel, with Diana etc leaving from the back.
If she was going to be killed there are much better ways of doing so. Arranging this kind of crash is very haphazard. One person survived, and from photographs we know he was the only one wearing a seat belt.
In my opinion, it made things more arkward for Charles and Camilla.
If Diana had lived, I expect she would have ultimately remarried, but not to Dodi Al Fayed, but to someone else.

The nanny was Barbara Barnes, and IIRC there was a maternity nurse for the immediate postnatal period too.

Diana had previously worked herself as a nanny and in a nursery, so probably was quite hands on. But there was a nanny as well.

Actually a suicide raises too many questions and Diana loved the limelight too much for everyone to believe she would truly commit suicide

No one believes Epstein killed himself.

A lot of people doubt Marilyn Monroe killed herself.

Suicide just opens up even more theory. It's more plausible that a suicide could be staged than a drink driver being chased by paparazzi, which coincidentally Diana had complained about as a major cause of distress, so it was already in the public consciousness and therefore more likely to be accepted and believed that she died trying to evade the paparazzi.

I'm amazed that I have to keep explaining to people why it's extremely highly unlikely Princess Di was killed.

If you are going to kill someone, there are far more effective ways of doing so than by initiating a car crash. To start, with, many hundreds of thousands of people a year are in car crashes and survive them, so engineering a car crash as a method of murder is very inefficient.

Secondly, there are too many variables and things outside of the assassins control with the car crash theory - they can't control other drivers for example.

Good points

I wholeheartedly agree that it was very strange that the French claim they had to keep stopping the ambulance to try and stabilise Diana. I think they were waiting for her to be beyond saving. She was one of the most important people in the world at that time but for anyone in similar circumstances you would expect the ambulance to get to the hospital as fast as possible. Princess or not, the urgency to save a life should have been paramount.
Then there is the matter of why they embalmed her so soon after she had sadly died and had the tunnel tidied up and cleaned so quickly when it was essentially a crime scene.