To think Princess Di was killed

[Lavenderfarmcottage]

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

Noooo, I don’t think the theory is they arranged for the car crash and hoped it would magically kill her. They arranged to kill her in the car, then engineered the car crash as a cover up. V short window to get it all done before the paps showed up, but that’s MI5/MI6/Big Landmines/the Royal Family/al Fayed/Phil the Greek/wizards for you.

Couldn't agree more with this !

Unless the crash was meant to be a warning and went too far.... 🧐

The suspected other vehicle/driver or rider has never been found. That's also very odd given the high profile. You'd think everyone across the country would be reporting anything suspicious, wouldn't you?

I met her at a work event and she seemed absolutely lovely- she definitely had star quality, it was as if she glowed from within, her beautiful sapphire eyes - she was a stunner.

A beautiful woman.

She'd be in her Sixties now, if alive, I heard she'd died after coming home from a trip in Europe, but there wasn't internet then, it was when a friend phoned to say ''Terrible news about Diana, isn't it?'' that I found out.

I didn't believe him at first, as knew from the works thing how she had protection staff- But when I turned on the TV it was all too real.

I would hope that the royals didn't arrange for Diana to be killed-

There have been more inflammatory people since then and they haven't been 'bumped off' so I hope that is was just a terrible accident rather than Diana being deliberately murdered.

She was killed by getting in a car with a drunk driver and not putting a seatbelt on. HTH.

The length of time that has passed is irrelevant, it is just incredibly unlikely.

On the other hand, Marilyn Monroe being murdered is quite believable, as is Natalie Wood.

You know the video of Diana, Dodi and the driver just before they got in to the car, in the lift or corridor of The Ritz Hotel - the driver doesn't look drunk in it.
Diana had a bodyguard who afaik was sitting in the passenger seat. He survived.
Surely he would have noticed if the driver was drunk.
I feel sorry for the driver and his loved ones if he wasn't drunk, as he is the fall guy.
A car seen at the scene was never traced.

Marilyn Monroe - very possibly murder.
Natalie Wood - accident, but RJ did it and lied about it.

I think people are fascinated because it was very convenient for the Royal Family. Would Charles and Camilla have gone on to marry if Diana was still making the front pages day in, day out? She completely outshined him back in the 80s and 90s. And even more so after they divorced. Everyone loved her and despised Charles and Camilla. I think people forget how unbelievably famous she was. Everything she did completely trumped the good work of the other royals. He would try and launch something or attend a ceremony for a charity and she could go to the gym with skimpy shorts on and the press would cover her shorts and not mention Charles at such and such or the Queen attending Great Ormond Street.

Diana's popularity was not on the wane. The papers and magazines carried mountains of stories about her.
The rumours in the press the week before was that she was pregnant. Diana herself said she had an announcement to make.

I don’t think loyalty required plotted murder against his exDIL though

You know this or that is your theory?

I read that the flashing light in the tunnel routine was part of an MI6 plan to take out Slobodan Milosevich. Repurposed to get rid of Diana because she was planning to marry al Fayed. Racist royals couldn't stomach the idea of the future King ending up with a half-Egyptian half-sibling.

But one reads all sorts of things.

I'm well aware that the RF is an institution, that's why, twice, I talk about potential destabilisation of the monarchy.

Yes, the Royal Family have been ruthless in the past and excluded family members. But it's a long, long stretch to go from social exclusion to murder.

It made perfect sense for the RF to change their Germanic name to Windsor given WW1 and WW2. German Shepherd dogs remained popular as pet dogs but became known as Alsations (Alsace being their place of origin.) No-one wanted to be seen to support anything germanic.

Re Edward and Mrs Simpson, at that time in society, having a divorced woman as a future queen consort was unthinkable as divorce carried a social stigma, that's why Edward gave up the throne. They became outcasts because the Queen Mother blamed her husband's early death on Edward's abdication.

I am not in anyway contradicting myself by stating that PP wouldn't wish two young boys to be bereft of their mother but at the same time would ban Fergie from Christmas lunch. One mother would be dead whilst the other mother would have to make other arrangements to occupy herself whilst her daughters were with the RF for ONE day. The two are not even remotely comparable. Beatrice and Eugenice would have the choice to either spend the day with the RF or with their mother. With Diana dead, William and Harry would have no such choice.

I have already highlighted the nature of her injuries, in particular that as well as multiple fractures because she was sitting sideways the force of a crash at 95mph had sent her heart into the other side of her chest rupturing a pulmonary artery. That meant her blood pressure was almost non existent. They first had to stabilise her at the scene including sedating her as she was conscious and agitated at first, and dealing with a cardiac arrest. The ambulance had to go slowly as any acceleration or breaking would cause her blood to slosh around her body starving her brain further of oxygen, and travel to a hospital equipped to deal with such life threatening injuries, and indeed there were further cardiac arrests. If there is any suspicion it is whether there was actually any prospect of saving her by the time she reached the hospital but to have followed any other treatment plan would also have killed her, and possibly extended her suffering if they had tried to drag her from the car any sooner. All this is standard protocol for dealing with that degree of trauma, the inevitable result of crashing at 95mph without a seatbelt. No specialist in emergency medicine has ever questioned her treatment, that is just for the armchair experts 😂

Is it me or is this debate getting more divorced from common sense and facts as the evening wears on….. 🍷

I love how ‘I read that…’ seems to mean ‘I know for a fact’ to some posters.

Harry has definitely married his mother without her charm or warmth.

You are so right, the definition of recklessness. And that interview of hers which William is now trying to blame Bashir for - as if Diana lacked capacity and did not know what she was doing. And pestering Oliver Hoare by phone, with his wife reporting a caller for phone harassment and the police tracing nuisance calls to her apartment in Kensington Palace! And Will Carlin's wife 'Diana is messing with the wrong woman'. Had she survived, she would have discredited herself beyond anything one could imagine. And all the time recklessly competing with the heir to the throne for popularity. Insane. And allowing her speech coach to video her revelations about 'Charles being over me like a rash, eeeww'. Unbelievable.

Obviously my opinion. 😂

Aren’t the posters saying the driver was drunk and no seatbelt missing the point. The high ups could have made the blood result out to have alcohol in it. And messed up the seatbelt. Etc. have you not seen James Bond?

Her popularity was not on the downturn. That is a rewriting of history.

“Here, are you using this plan for Slobodan or can I borrow it for Diana? I’ll bring it back when I’m done.”

I definitely think there was a smear campaign against her in the press. Whereas we often see people in power suppressing negative press stories, such as the prince involved with Epstein.

So it was obviously in someone’s best interests to ruin her reputation as we know the royals can bury bad press should they want to.

I’m not saying she was purposely killed by the royal family but they certainly used her death to their advantage. I don’t think anyone aside from her sons cared that she died. Her death was likely considered unfortunate internally, but with the caveat that she didn’t fit their image and needed to go so it was for the best.

Was there something about the cameras being out, or am I confusing this with Epstein?

The press before she died were full of rumours that Diana was pregnant. If she was pregnant, that would have really upset the Royal Family.

I've wondered this so many times since it happened. A lot of things seemed not to add up, plus her death was so convenient to some members of the royal family and the arms dealers. Ultimately, though, I concluded it was just a terrible accident. Not helped in any way by a drunk driver and lack of a seatbelt.