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To think Princess Di was killed

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Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 15:35

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

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JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 18:01

Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 17:59

Well, I guess we will never know.

Sorry to those I’ve offended. I do hope and doubt the royals read this.

I am off to bed 2am Australia time but I appreciate being able to connect even if it’s over a bonkers theory.

I really needed the distraction from my actual life.

I’ll concede to being bonkers and daft and hashing out arguments with dubious sources

I won’t concede to Diana being anything less than magical. Yes, she had her flaws but to this day even in the over sharing times of tik tok and 2025 - I find her amazing.

Diana bravely shared her eating disorders, self harm, insecurities to an entire generation and championed unfashionable causes. Many women with her upbringing and privilege would have stayed in their nice comfy zone, attending garden parties and buying nice things.

Goodnight MN 🇬🇧 😴

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Hope your DS feels better soon @Lavenderfarmcottage (probably inappropriate but I did another at ‘earring disorder’).

LeticiaMorales · 28/01/2025 18:02

username299 · 28/01/2025 17:56

What I remember first about her was her insistence on not using a nanny. She was the first royal to hold her children and hug them in public.

The second was holding the hands of AIDs patients when people were terrified of HIV and patients were treated like pariahs. The Terrence Higgins Trust speaks very effusively of how she helped change minds and how she helped raise funds.

She used a nanny - she was called Barbara Barnes. When Harry was born there was an assistant nanny and nursery nurses. There was a nursery floor at KP. Diana was an aristocrat to her fingertips.

LondonJax · 28/01/2025 18:02

Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 17:47

@CharityShopChic that’s an interesting point actually. Why is it that we sympathise with Diana for her troubled familial relationships and upbringing, and being on and off with friends and potentially prank calling a married man (but who knows). We forgive her for going on Panorama even upsetting her sons and the book. Yet with Harry and Meghan they are admonished for similar.

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Harry and Meghan are admonished BECAUSE Diana did it first. When Diana did it, it was seen as shocking but many people were agog at what she was saying.

Harry, unfortunately for him, just seemed to be jumping on the bandwagon, especially given that he seemed to be saying Meghan was the 'new' Diana. Because Diana had already 'been there, done that' as far as TV interviews and books were concerned, it just looked like a case of 'here we go again' to many people.

QuimCarrey · 28/01/2025 18:02

pelargoniums · 28/01/2025 17:57

He had the sense to marry a woman who is truly beautiful, and who knows how to behave. Really knows. Enough to be an example to us all. She isn't shaming her sons, chasing men high and low.
Fucking hell, this website.

Mmm, that was cringe. Example to us all? I don't recall anyone being picked to speak for the public on that one! Nothing against Kate or anything, I've no reason to think she isn't a decent human being, but looking to royals for an example is, well, not a universally accepted standard shall we say.

WaryCrow · 28/01/2025 18:03

Many women with her upbringing and privilege would have stayed in their nice comfy zone, attending garden parties and buying nice things.

and that’s exactly what she did. Thanks for the laugh today!

username299 · 28/01/2025 18:04

LeticiaMorales · 28/01/2025 18:02

She used a nanny - she was called Barbara Barnes. When Harry was born there was an assistant nanny and nursery nurses. There was a nursery floor at KP. Diana was an aristocrat to her fingertips.

I meant when she was out with her children. She hugged and held her children in public, unlike other royals.

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 18:05

WaryCrow · 28/01/2025 18:03

Many women with her upbringing and privilege would have stayed in their nice comfy zone, attending garden parties and buying nice things.

and that’s exactly what she did. Thanks for the laugh today!

In fairness she had an abusive upbringing that I doubt money would assuage

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 18:07

username299 · 28/01/2025 18:04

I meant when she was out with her children. She hugged and held her children in public, unlike other royals.

There’s footage of QE2 returning from IIRC a 5 month trip and little 5yo Charles is waiting for her and she pats him on the back!! No wonder he was fucked up.

I listened to an audio book about the Windsor’s recently and the afterword was something along the lines of “Many ways of living, many types of marriages and may partnerships have been tested by the Royal Family - but it’s only ever had a positive outcome when true love prevails. When the Royals love and show love they’re the most valuable asset to the UK, when they go the other way it’s a disaster”

Mygosh · 28/01/2025 18:08

Just a tragic accident, happens all the time.

What I do find strange, is that the day she died, the news about Mohamed being a perv were due to hit the headlines.

Of course, this news about Diana broke and Mohamed kept his dirty secrets.

StopStartStop · 28/01/2025 18:08

MeAndMyCatCharlotte · 28/01/2025 17:54

'She didn't do the job she was meant to do - support her husband.' But she did, for years. While he was unfaithful to her, from the start. It took it's toll on her mentally and physically.

No, she didn't.

pelargoniums · 28/01/2025 18:08

QuimCarrey · 28/01/2025 18:02

Mmm, that was cringe. Example to us all? I don't recall anyone being picked to speak for the public on that one! Nothing against Kate or anything, I've no reason to think she isn't a decent human being, but looking to royals for an example is, well, not a universally accepted standard shall we say.

But also: do we want our example to be “beautiful and behaves”. What a low bar! And not just because I fail on both counts Grin

Onelifeonly · 28/01/2025 18:09

Nobody wanted her dead - she was worth much more alive, even (especially) to the paparazzi. It was the delightful Mohamed Al Fayed, who wanted it all to be about him, who pushed this rumour. And the circumstances were highly unlikely for a targeted hit.

I do know quite a lot about it as I was a grown adult when it happened. People love a conspiracy theory now and they certainly did then too, but it doesn't hold water. And it's very old news......

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 18:09

QuimCarrey · 28/01/2025 18:02

Mmm, that was cringe. Example to us all? I don't recall anyone being picked to speak for the public on that one! Nothing against Kate or anything, I've no reason to think she isn't a decent human being, but looking to royals for an example is, well, not a universally accepted standard shall we say.

In fairness the Princess of Wales manages to show warmth, kindness and happiness without the added pain of drama, self importance and moaning. I think a lot for he RF an also some normal people could take a leaf out her book.

quantumbutterfly · 28/01/2025 18:14

I don't know about Diana...but how did Camilla's rival mistress Kanga get defenestrated?😏😶🤔

Anonycat · 28/01/2025 18:19

HermioneWeasley · 28/01/2025 15:47

How did her assassins engineer her choosing not to wear her seatbelt?

I bet you won’t get an answer to that one!

2dogsandabudgie · 28/01/2025 18:19

YourHappyJadeEagle · 28/01/2025 17:42

I did find it odd that the bodyguard ( only one who survived) didn’t notice the driver had been drinking, didn’t say please wear your seatbelt ma’am as the car sped up, didn’t tell the driver to slow down. If his job was to keep her and Dodi safe his risk assessment skills were shite.

I thought the driver was a regular drinker so if he was over the limit even by quite a lot, it wouldn't have been noticeable as opposed to someone who didn't drink on a regular basis.

We will never know the conversation they had in that car.

IdaGlossop · 28/01/2025 18:19

Mygosh · 28/01/2025 18:08

Just a tragic accident, happens all the time.

What I do find strange, is that the day she died, the news about Mohamed being a perv were due to hit the headlines.

Of course, this news about Diana broke and Mohamed kept his dirty secrets.

Gracious! so the media covered up for Fayed for decades?

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 28/01/2025 18:22

2dogsandabudgie · 28/01/2025 18:19

I thought the driver was a regular drinker so if he was over the limit even by quite a lot, it wouldn't have been noticeable as opposed to someone who didn't drink on a regular basis.

We will never know the conversation they had in that car.

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My friend is a functioning alcoholic. Most wouldn’t know.

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 18:24

quantumbutterfly · 28/01/2025 18:14

I don't know about Diana...but how did Camilla's rival mistress Kanga get defenestrated?😏😶🤔

She always claimed she was pushed. Another tragic story of a young woman who died very young

researchers3 · 28/01/2025 18:24

Gloriia · 28/01/2025 15:54

That car accident could not have been planned. I'd understand your point if she'd been found dead alone in a house or something but I mean how much evidence do you need?

No point in wondering what she'd be doing if alive as she sadly isn't. If only she'd have chosen her boyfriends a bit more carefully and lived her life a bit less recklessly.

If only she wasn't being chased everywhere by the paparazzi...

Nice victim blaming.

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 18:25

researchers3 · 28/01/2025 18:24

If only she wasn't being chased everywhere by the paparazzi...

Nice victim blaming.

It’s not victim blaming to say “The streets are absolute chaos don’t take unnecessary journeys”. The journey she went to take was entirely unecessary. It just so happens she liked to court the press and paparazzi

Funkyslippers · 28/01/2025 18:25

Reallybadidea · 28/01/2025 15:58

Coincidentally (or is it???!) DH shared this very relevant video with me a few minutes ago

Blimey, that's so unfunny. I cannot bear that canned laughter either!

PheasantPluckers · 28/01/2025 18:26

No way. She was losing popularity and sympathy with her antics before her death. The Royals (or whoever you suppose called the hit) didn't need to lift a finger, she would have orchestrated her own downfall all by herself and in a way, she did by playing fast and loose. Her death made her popular again, as tends to happen.

Ooral · 28/01/2025 18:27

HermioneWeasley · 28/01/2025 15:47

How did her assassins engineer her choosing not to wear her seatbelt?

This ^^

After they engineered her to get in a car with a pissed up driver.

WaryCrow · 28/01/2025 18:28

One thing many people in the U.K. might not realise is the amount of royal pageantry that the U.K. exports. It is scary - and probably a truer picture of how the place functions actually than we here believe or are told - that people elsewhere really seem to think we all reverence the royals and accord them that same undeserved time and respect.

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