To think Princess Di was killed

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There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had.

What a load of bollocks. She was a self-centred, attention-seeking whinger. She wasn't beautiful, people just said she was because she married Prince Charles. Harry is her true heir - disloyal, narcissistic, publicity-seeking.

Yes, she had some good points. She loved her sons and showed it. She had compassion for other human beings. She wrote kind notes to people.

She didn't do the job she was meant to do - support her husband.

She did a good job bringing William into the world. I'm sorry to have to be so negative about his mother! He's turned out to be a good man, loyal to his father. He had the sense to marry a woman who is truly beautiful, and who knows how to behave. Really knows. Enough to be an example to us all. She isn't shaming her sons, chasing men high and low. Not that we know of, anyway. I don't know the Princess of Wales but I do trust her and will continue to do so until proved wrong.

Diana tried to damage the monarchy and her younger son continues her work. I hope the Royal Family can survive them. I hope William and Catherine can have long lives together, and I hope their children continue to be as adorable and admirable as they are today. And, God save the King!

Princess Diana was hanging out on Fayed's yacht. Fayed, much of whose money is reputed to have come from his close friendship with his brother in law, Annan Khashoggi, one of the most prolific arms dealers the world has known. Fayed's first wife, mother of Dodi, was Khashoggi's sister. The kindest view to take is that Diana was not renowned for thinking things through. I don't think she was killed but was certainly setting herself up for some serious intervention in her future. Reckless and thoughtless.

I absolutely thought the same!

Harry has all the whingey attention seeking melodrama of his mother but none of the charisma, charm, warmth and generosity

Apologies MarkingBad

That must be why H married M. She seemed familiar. 🤯

Oh wow, senior royalist with connections to MI6 is that you ?

Maybe.

Or she might have calmed down, married some unknown toff and lived in quiet upper class obscurity like her sisters.

As mother of the future king, of course, she'd never be entirely obscure. But as she aged and her youthful allure faded, interest in her would have similarly faded and passed on to the younger generation. As it did with Princess Margaret, who was the beautiful, glamorous princess of her day, only to be superseded by the next generation, notably Diana herself.

What struck me as a mother of an almost 12yo is the way she carried on with married men in the open, fed stories about her affairs knowing they’d be published and then told Martin Bashir of all her marital troubles - giving seemingly no thought to how totally embarrassing this would be for her boys. I can’t even hum a tune without DD being mortified, I really think if I behaved like Diana did she’d disown me. and rightly so. And it shows that one son has become the worst party’s of his mother and the other looked at his shitshow that was his parents and chose to do better

All very true. There was even a sort of uneasy truce between the Queen, the former Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson as they approached the end of their lives.

Not a full reconciliation, just a shaky and unofficial truce. I believe the Queen (and even her mother?) attended the funerals of each of them back at Windsor.

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Maybe Nigel Farage could promise to release all the papers when he is PM ?

For goodness sake, don't tempt fate!

'She didn't do the job she was meant to do - support her husband.' But she did, for years. While he was unfaithful to her, from the start. It took it's toll on her mentally and physically.

“I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.”

What? Saint Diana was a vastly over privileged and bored aristo who occasionally did a bit of charity work in front of the cameras for the same reason the men in the family do military service: to try to justify the insanely privileged life society gave her.

It’s not enough in my view, there are plenty of people in our NHS - and even the military, not my arena - that do more everyday for far less reward.

No one would have killed her for that don’t be ridiculous.

She is only popular because she died young with two young children and rose to martyr status.

Realistically if she went off and married Dodi she would have stopped her "royal" duties, probably made a few media cockups, faded into the background and become irrelevant. Whether the relationship with Dodi would have gone the distance is also another question.

Everything is just romanticised imagination and far from what the reality of Diana would be in todays times.

Ridiculous.

She would never have chosen to leave her boys.

humanity, bravery and brilliance? REALLY??

Humanity definitely - but she was no different from hundreds of other charity workers in that respect. It was just that she was the first of the Royal women to be seen sitting on beds and holding hands with patients and being good with kids. Just like Sophie or Kate is now.

Bravery? What was brave about her? And brilliance - she was a good people person for sure. But by her own admission "as thick as a brick".

I'm not in the "anti Diana" crowd, I don't think there need to be "sides" here or she needs to be demonised to somehow elevate Charles, or OTOH, sanctified to demonise him. I think the whole thing was an absolute hot mess, where both her and Charles (and Camilla) were massively at fault. They were all messy people and did shit things to each other, and were also all treated badly themselves at various points. It doesn't have to be either or.

Regardless I STILL don't think she was assassinated. It's extremely silly to think so, given the circumstances of her death.

What I remember first about her was her insistence on not using a nanny. She was the first royal to hold her children and hug them in public.

The second was holding the hands of AIDs patients when people were terrified of HIV and patients were treated like pariahs. The Terrence Higgins Trust speaks very effusively of how she helped change minds and how she helped raise funds.

The International Campaign to Ban Landmines was formed in 1992.

Its founding coordinator, Jody Williams, received the 1997 Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to bring about the Mine Ban Treaty. Jody Williams is alive and well and has not been assassinated. Neither has Werner Ehrlich, an Austrian who made the first draft of the Treaty in April 1996 and was considered crucial to its success.

The Mine Ban Treaty is the international agreement that bans anti-personnel mines. It was adopted in Oslo in September 1997 and was signed by 122 countries in Ottawa, Canada, on 3 December 1997.

Once in the final stages leading into the treaty, the Treaty was indeed championed by Diana. In January 1997 she visited Angola and walked near a minefield to dramatize its dangers. In August 1997, she visited Bosnia with the Landmine Survivors Network. Her tragic death just a couple of weeks later, propelled the cause forward on the world stage and, as reported by TIME Magazine in their September 1997 edition, "After her death, the treaty... took on the luster of a humanitarian memorial to Diana and her cause."

So, what can we learn from this in terms of your conspiracy theory?

1. Diana's involvement came towards the end of a five year campaign, during which time the prime movers were not assassinated.
2. Diana's death drew international focus on the impending Treaty.

If this was an assassination by arms dealers or manufacturers, it was completely pointless, too late, and had the adverse effect they may have expected, although it's hard to believe they would have been foolish enough to imagine that the Treaty could be stopped at the last minute by assassinating Diana.

If you're looking for suspects for your conspiracy, I think you can safely strike these from your list.

We can't ever know but I think she would have remained a much loved public figure (just a lower key one) and a fashion icon.

He had the sense to marry a woman who is truly beautiful, and who knows how to behave. Really knows. Enough to be an example to us all. She isn't shaming her sons, chasing men high and low.
Fucking hell, this website.

I don't think she was killed. Where would you find a kamikaze driver willing to drive drunk and then crash the car badly enough to kill her? If the state wanted to do away with her, she'd have been killed in the manner of Gareth Williams and they'd have made it look like the Russians did it. In other words, it would have clearly been a murder and it would have been forever unsolved. I don't see how you could set a drunk driver on her on purpose. Even if you could find someone willing to crash their car badly enough to kill her (extremely unlikely) you'd run the risk of her being maimed but not killed. You also would not be able to guarantee her not using her seatbelt, which makes a huge difference to the outcome of a crash.

I think it was a tragic accident caused by alcohol, and I think the reason she wasn't wearing her seatbelt is because it was a really short journey, or it was stuck/had slipped between the seats. I almost always wear a seatbelt, but sometimes in a taxi, they're so hard to get on that I don't bother for a short journey.

If only they'd stayed at the Ritz, as Trevor advised. How different things would be. Or if she had managed to fasten her seatbelt.

William and Harry missed an opportunity to campaign for seatbelt safety, imo.

Because she died young.

If Harry and Meghan died in some kind of accident today, the general narrative regarding their actions would also change.

Well, I guess we will never know.

Sorry to those I’ve offended. I do hope and doubt the royals read this.

I am off to bed 2am Australia time but I appreciate being able to connect even if it’s over a bonkers theory.

I really needed the distraction from my actual life.

I’ll concede to being bonkers and daft and hashing out arguments with dubious sources

I won’t concede to Diana being anything less than magical. Yes, she had her flaws but to this day even in the over sharing times of tik tok and 2025 - I find her amazing.

Diana bravely shared her eating disorders, self harm, insecurities to an entire generation and championed unfashionable causes. Many women with her upbringing and privilege would have stayed in their nice comfy zone, attending garden parties and buying nice things.

Goodnight MN 🇬🇧 😴

This!! I also think H&M’s childhood whilst Harry in particular had it rough, had nothing like the childhood of Diana. I once read what was done to her mother by her father and it made my blood run cold

Exactly, that's what I said that they were rumours started by Mr. Al-Fayed because he couldn't accept that Dodi and Diana died in a tragic accident.