To think Princess Di was killed

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There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

I don't know, I suspect not. But in terms of what she would be doing now, I think they would have tried very hard to silence her. Charles has become less petulant with age but if he wants Camilla to be well received by the masses (which he does), then he'll do all sorts to make sure it happens. I certainly don't think he had her killed but I do think she would have always been a huge thorn in in their sides because she was just such perfect marketing material whereas Camilla and Charles basically aren't and will always look frumpy and dull in comparison. I quite like Camilla and I'm quite forgiving of human weakness, but she could never, ever, in a million years, have competed.

I also remember Charles face that Sunday. He looked devastated. I don’t think you can fake that look.

Eh, fine for you or anyone else to think she's an example you find positive. I've no argument there. Not up to anyone to speak for the rest of us though, especially as since @pelargoniums points out, one of the example qualities given is beauty. Holding someone up as a positive example because they happen to be pretty is dodgy.

Perfectly reasonable - she was obviously murdered in cold blood. In my opinion the seat belt was tampered with. This is a widely held view. There is something very odd about who was actually driving that car. It seems likely that the true driver left the scene of the crash uninjured. The testimony of the witnesses is very strange on that point. It's also possible that the car was remotely controlled by members of MI5 who caused it to crash.

I think if she was still alive the media (especially the Mail) would be running features about how she was ageing and speculating about what she knew about Al-Fyed's reign of sexual violence towards female staff at Harrods ...

I like Camilla too.

As awful as it sounds but Diana’s death ended up being the best PR for Charles - I’m sure he only got to marry Camilla too because his first wife had died so it wasn’t against the CofE.

Why though? What would be the point?

And where is the driver now?

Ironically, Camilla is very well suited to the job, even though she can't compete with Diana's breath-taking glamour. Silly courtiers, interfering and insisting on an aristocratic virgin barely out of childhood.

Not sure the post you are replying to is quite right. The allegation, as far as I am aware, is that a settlement agreed with Vanity Fair which involved sealing away evidence of his impropriety with female staff was agreed at least in part due to sympathy following Dodi's death.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/27/how-mohamed-al-fayed-kept-claims-of-sex-crimes-under-cover-for-decades

Obviously it's as much of a stretch to then claim that he engineered the accident for this as that MI6, Prince Phillip or "Big Landmine" somehow orchestrated it unless there is something else I have missed.

I think it was actually the Queen Mum who pushed the idea and also Diana onto Charles. QE2 was supposedly quite under her mother’s thumb.

But yes Camilla is suited to it. I remember the days of cruel, evil articles about her looks and she’s never once comaplined or brought it up. She’s endured cruelty for decades and weirdos think that she must answer to strangers for her part in a marriage 40 years ago.

Humans always look for reasons - it's difficult to accept 'chance' - unsurprising that Fayed couldn't accept his son was just killed for being a bit stupid and so wanting to know more or thinking there's more, perhaps he felt some guilt over the driver being drunk too. I guess these feelings can be more widespread when a public figure dies; we don't want to believe that one minute we are here then randomly we are not due to a random combination of unfortunate events/decisions.
However, to think that 'they' could plan this car crash to see Diana off is a reason too far imo.
I had thought this conspiracy was around the 'grey men' organising the RF, or Prince Philip, so the mines one is a new one to me. I've read short things on and off since 97, like these threads lol, but never got to understanding how any part of said conspiracy could be feasible - except I probably don't hold the powers that be entirely incapable of getting rid in certain circumstances, or covering stuff up.
I remember the day well and as being quite shocking, and it's maybe like RFK where everyone knows where they were when it happened, (I still do), although I didn't and don't follow the Royals really, and actually don't particularly remember the date beyond late August. It's also sad when young people die. I was quite surprised at the intense mourning, public grief, and new but since continued sainthood of Diana. She was just a human, damaged, tad reckless, did some good things and some not so, loved her kids - isn't that fairly average and ok enough to be - the crash remains shocking and sad but the conspiracy theories around it remind me of flat earth ones, no more.

She was inconvenient. The driver was an MI5 agent.

Goodness me OP, have you ever thought of going to the papers with your theory? It could be a dyanamite ( sorry! ) story. I wonder which members of the RF thought of the plot ….lots to think about, I will probably be up all night thinking about it.

or not.

Not this again - her sisters have/had red hair. She met Hewitt AFTER Harry was born.

Do you seriously believe that anyone could have walked away from that crash uninjured? Really?

Struggling to sleep. Just came on here to say it was a entire hour or more between the crash and Diana arriving at hospital.

What about the man who we were told was driving? Where is he?

And inconvenient to whom?
The royals have had much more inconvenient people in their circle without bumping them off. Who would commission this?

and how did they know she’d want to change venues for no reason at that very specific time of the early morning in Paris? Was the MI5 agent always following her and in the vicinity for weeks on end and thought “Finally! Now is my chance!”. Because remember she got rid of her royal security so they can’t have been involved. Did the MI5 agent infiltrate Fayed’s security?

I never understood why they were going out for dinner in the first place. If I was staying at the Paris Ritz I would be ordering room service every night, or demanding a private dining room.

The bodyguard survived - he was the only one wearing a seatbelt.

Harry is also the spit of Prince Phillip in his younger days

This is exactly why I think it wasn’t murder - also no one could have accounted for all the tiny variables that led to the crash

There's one big difference: money. Diana wasn't raking in millions for dishing the dirt. Venality is always unpleasant.

Shhhhh. Is any one listening? I will whisper. YANBU!!

The bodyguard survived - he was the only one wearing a seatbelt.

But with serious injuries. He didn't walk away.

Yes he survived but he suffered severe injuries and spent a month in hospital in France before coming back to the UK.