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To be so angry sorting out my parents stuff

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DazedorBemused · 28/01/2025 10:27

I've just cleared another carload of stuff from my parents attic. They were born either side of WW2, and talked. Talked so much about rationing, poverty, striking, unions, etc.
My brother was occasionally ill as a child. To compensate he had fancy Lego, computers when they first came out, hand held video games.
The contrast between his pricy toys and my enjoy your family board game type stuff is obvious.
Then my parents got into collecting stuff - porcelain, dinner services, up scaled their Christmas decorations again and again.

I'm sorting through all this stuff and finding receipts for expensive trivial stuff in the early 90s when I was at uni, working two term time jobs and full-time in the holidays and I'm a 50 year old woman upset at having to go to the tip again.

OP posts:
milveycrohn · 28/01/2025 12:38

I am disappointed you are taking fine porcelain to the tip.
Why not take it all to one of the many charity shops about?

Codlingmoths · 28/01/2025 12:40

Spirallingdownwards · 28/01/2025 11:59

You do realise house clearance companies charge a fortune You aren't doing your kids any favours by suggesting this. Indeed quite the opposite.

Edited

It’s her estate it would come out of, as long as there’s money there for it why is that a problem? She is doing her kids a favour by removing the obligation feeling.

GrumblingRose · 28/01/2025 12:40

Daysgo · 28/01/2025 12:27

I'd say to anyone of a certain age and thinking what your children may find when you're gone, to prioritise getting rid of things like diaries, notebooks etc anywhere you may have written about your children nastily, horribly, unfairly etc. Dont let that be the last communication from you that they'll see.

Add sex toys to that too !

Marilyn17 · 28/01/2025 12:41

I completely understand. My FIL passed away recently, had us all running around for him for years. He was extremely tight with my dh and his sister, never helped with uni or anything over the years. Never gave grandchildren a penny, we thought it was because he was skint. Yes, he was skint when he died because we've found receipts and bank statements going back over 20 years showing what he blew all his money on. There wasn't enough to pay for his funeral, we've had to stump up for it between us. The final insult is that he'd left hardly anything to his own family but has specifically named his ladyfriend as a beneficiary with a definite amount going to her.

TangerineClementine · 28/01/2025 12:41

My PILs (born in 1939/1940) also always talked a lot about rationing and were very stingy with presents for their grandchildren. To be fair unlike your parents they lived very frugally. When FIL died and DH was helping MIL to sort out their finances, he was absolutely stunned to find out how much they had sitting in savings. As well as FIL being able to retire in his 50s with a generous pension.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 28/01/2025 12:41

Funnily enough it didn’t occur to me until I was long grown up, to think how unfair it was, that somehow there was the money for my brother to attend a boarding school (admittedly relatively a lot cheaper then) while I never had the riding lessons I so badly wanted - 7/6d (35p) an hour.

HelloMyNameIsElderSmurf · 28/01/2025 12:42

I am very tempted to get a skip and hurl every last collectable Franklin mint piece and investment antique ( there should be a special place in hell for those oily tongued dealers) into it off the balcony.

Honestly, do it. You will feel SO much better for it.

There was a thing in that generation I think where they actually felt quite wealthy as pensioners: houses bought (or secure tenancies), NHS for their care, generous old age pension and the first swathe of workplace pensions paying out. My grandma was of similar age and I recognise the Franklin mint and horrendous repro antiques.

We had a family feud over a HIDEOUS Victorian repro cabinet that was to be left to me but the widow kept which then sat in my parents' garage for ten years before someone had the guts to skip it.

But honestly this feels like the anger that is part of the grief cycle, with a bit of mourning for the relationship you didn't have.

If I was your DH, I'd be giving your younger brother an earful though. He should be playing his part in this process.

MaggieFS · 28/01/2025 12:44

@TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis sending a hug. That's truly horrible for it to have been so overt.

(And I LOVE your username, you are quite correct!)

Spirallingdownwards · 28/01/2025 12:44

Codlingmoths · 28/01/2025 12:40

It’s her estate it would come out of, as long as there’s money there for it why is that a problem? She is doing her kids a favour by removing the obligation feeling.

That assumes there is an estate for it to come out of. Unfortunately I have seen it have to cone out of friends' pockets.

JimHalpertsWife · 28/01/2025 12:44

KimberleyClark · 28/01/2025 11:14

What made me sad when clearing out my MIL’s house was finding all the lovely things we’d given her as Christmas and birthday presents had never been opened or used. She had that keeping things for best mentality.

Same with my grandmother - a neat pile of fresh, unworn, folded jumpers, each one something she'd asked for at Christmas.

I'm certain when we clear out my uncles home I will find a stack of unread books we all bought him as he "loves this and that author" yet we never see him read anything other than the paper.

MaggieFS · 28/01/2025 12:45

Georgyporky · 28/01/2025 12:38

I'd never use a House Clearance company, & have dissuaded friends from doing so.
When DM died, DF was in a wheelchair & I cleared out her things.

I found >£16,000 - no typo, over sixteen thousand.

Oh crumbs!

I've always assumed though, the you would go through a house before letting a clearance company in? But you just don't spend time thinking twice or trying to dispose of anything?

harriethoyle · 28/01/2025 12:48

GrumblingRose · 28/01/2025 12:40

Add sex toys to that too !

Still a bit traumatised by finding DMs sexy underwear in the house clear out. FAR more traumatised by DAunt’s suggestion I keep and wear it because it had wear left in it!

spoiler alert: the suspenders belts went in the skip 🤣

PigInAHouse · 28/01/2025 12:50

Codlingmoths · 28/01/2025 12:40

It’s her estate it would come out of, as long as there’s money there for it why is that a problem? She is doing her kids a favour by removing the obligation feeling.

If there’s enough money in the estate, you still usually have to pay it out of your own pocket upfront while everything is sorted.

VodkaCola · 28/01/2025 12:50

PemberleynotWemberley · 28/01/2025 11:43

Incidentally, does Swedish Death Cleansing really advise getting rid of everything and sitting in an empty house???

@VodkaCola of course not! It just means sorting and divesting oneself of the tat we all accumulate. All those boxed clothes, unloved ornaments, items held on to 'just in case'- in short all the stuff that pp are feeling oppressed by when clearing parents' houses. It's supposed to be liberating, and helpful in advance so one's children have a lighter task when we go.

That was my understanding of it too, I was wondering because a previous poster described it this way.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 28/01/2025 12:51

MaggieFS · 28/01/2025 12:44

@TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis sending a hug. That's truly horrible for it to have been so overt.

(And I LOVE your username, you are quite correct!)

Thank you. It will always make me cry a bit to think of it.

Thing is, knowing the family dynamics at play, I know it's definitely thoughtlessness. Which just reinforces the dynamic that I was the forgettable child - the youngest, whose basic needs were met and not much more, because my mum had more children than she could handle and had MH issues herself.

NetZeroZealot · 28/01/2025 12:52

milveycrohn · 28/01/2025 12:38

I am disappointed you are taking fine porcelain to the tip.
Why not take it all to one of the many charity shops about?

So it can sit around cluttering up their space instead ? No one wants this stuff any more.

TangerineClementine · 28/01/2025 12:52

harriethoyle · 28/01/2025 12:48

Still a bit traumatised by finding DMs sexy underwear in the house clear out. FAR more traumatised by DAunt’s suggestion I keep and wear it because it had wear left in it!

spoiler alert: the suspenders belts went in the skip 🤣

When FIL died, MIL wanted to pass his pants on to DH as they still had wear in them. These were NOT sexy pants btw. DH politely declined.

VodkaCola · 28/01/2025 12:52

milveycrohn · 28/01/2025 12:38

I am disappointed you are taking fine porcelain to the tip.
Why not take it all to one of the many charity shops about?

Are you volunteering to help with that?

Holdonforsummer · 28/01/2025 12:53

sorry you are upset, it has probably all made you the resilient hard-working person you are today. Good luck and sending hugs

Thingamebobwotsit · 28/01/2025 12:55

ChateauMargaux · 28/01/2025 12:34

You are no more responsible for turning their investment antiques / junk into cash than if they had bought shares in an ostrich farm (like my parents did.. though I am starting to feel some gratitude to my father in his attempts to liquidate some of his own investments).

Why do so many parents treat their daughters so differently to their sons.... I hope it rooted in beliefs and habits that have long since faded and that I do better. My mother was / is so bitter about how the boys were treated in her family and she did the same to my brother.

^ This, but women are expected to do it all. No one blinks these days when we "outsource" childcare, cleaning, gardening because we all work. And yet we are supposed to do all the care and deal with all the aftermath.

@DazedorBemused just get someone in. I am going to.

faffadoodledo · 28/01/2025 12:57

Re porcelain - charity shops wouldn't take stuff from my parents' house. And auction houses were only interested in a tiny proportion of it.

I suggest a party with porcelain throwing as an activity. Might be cathartic.

TorroFerney · 28/01/2025 12:59

VodkaCola · 28/01/2025 11:24

My Dad has started getting rid of things he no longer needs, such as 100s of books, a garage full of junk (old fridges, broken furniture, etc) and I am very grateful!

Clearing a house is a huge task. It took my DH and his siblings a really long time as I don't think my PILs ever threw anything away. For example, my DH found planning paperwork from his Dad's time as a local councillor, for buildings that had been built, used for years and then demolished!

And of course it's an emotional task as well as a practical and physical one. Memories are bound to be brought up, all sorts of forgotten things found, etc.

Incidentally, does Swedish Death Cleansing really advise getting rid of everything and sitting in an empty house????

No it doesn’t, I think it’s just a way for that poster to feel ok about her choices.

Hwi · 28/01/2025 13:00

You are pissed off because they preferred your brother (financially) and never helped you out when you were a student. You 100% right to feel resentment. Don't be ashamed of it.

C8H10N4O2 · 28/01/2025 13:01

DazedorBemused · 28/01/2025 11:50

Thank you everyone, lots to take from your posts.

My slightly younger brother is of course no where to be seen on this. Luckily DH is really supportive.

I'm angry and sad, I think, at the disconnect between what they said and what they did.
I know all the stories, the stress and the pessimism behind their lives. I get that it helped shape me, good and possibly needlessly. And they never asked how I felt or just repeated their hard luck times.
During my uni days, they were both threatened with redundancy, made redundant with big payouts then quickly found even better jobs.
So I worked during uni, two years later my brother didn't, got his overdrafts paid off and my parents spent even in today's money eyewatering sums on holidays.

My brother was bailed up and given a substantial house deposit, again just five years ago.
Most of the stuff I'm sorting today happens to come from the period that DH & I were really over reached, investing in work and our home for the future. So it's particularly acute finding the paperwork and stuff plus spending the time now on it.

I am very tempted to get a skip and hurl every last collectable Franklin mint piece and investment antique ( there should be a special place in hell for those oily tongued dealers) into it off the balcony.

there should be a special place in hell for those oily tongued dealers

Only if its big enough to take the Bradford Exchange shit as well. Their target audience in the 80s was women who grew up poor, had modest amounts of discretionary money for the first time and who thought they were "investing" for future generations. Half of ebay seems to consist of these "con collectables".

I would have no issue with parents, having raised their children to adulthood, spending some money on themselves. I actively encouraged my parents to do this as did my siblings.

Presumably the issue is not that they didn't spend their spare cas on adult children but that one was golden child? You mentioned he was ill as a child - is that the root of the different treatment and were they trying to compensate in money for poorer health/outcomes?

GreenTeaLikesMe · 28/01/2025 13:02

Butthistimesticktoit · 28/01/2025 11:54

I really empathise OP, clearing is rage inducing for me at any time and with the layers of family emotion woven in, sounds very hard.

I think what’s worth bearing in mind and we aren’t really far enough on from yet to have perspective from an historical point of view is the huge explosion in spending power, commercial items being made so much more mass-produced and affordable, convenience and celebration of ‘mass’ shopping and - key - women’s control over earning their own money and being able to essentially spank it without answering to anyone that opened up gradually, slowly in 50s/60s/70s then with mad traction in 80s/90s. I don’t remember any critical thinking around ‘but does anyone NEED any of this stuff?’ Until the noughties.

Society has changed so much in terms of stuff- I always think our instinct to collect hasn’t caught up with the availability of things. Agatha Christie writes in her autobiography (nice middle class upbringing) that she had no stuff - one evening dress and pair of evening shoes in an era where changing for evening was still more common, no car, taking the bust everywhere, but full time daily domestic help! Right now I would trade all my possessions for any domestic help I think.

Yes, Christie once said that she never dreamed that she would ever be rich enough to own a car, or poor enough to not have a maid, yet in her lifetime both things became the norm.

As manufactured clutter has become cheaper, domestic help has got harder to find and more expensive, and floor space per person has shrunk in the UK because the population has grown and building has been constrained by planning laws. The result is homes that often feel overstuffed and unmanageable.

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