What's your thoughts on asylum seekers?

[Lynds778]

I'm all for offering asylum to those genuinely in need but I've seen a lot of negative media recently around 'fake' asylum seekers; people pretending to be from war-torn countries etc to gain entry to the country. Also videos of men giving advice for future asylum seekers on where to say you're from so that you can get in.

Also seen a lot of uproar from local communities about asylum seekers behaving anti-socially, most recently hanging around outside a primary school in Deanshanger and it's got me worried.
I'm also wondering why the large majority of asylum seekers are men and there are less women and children?

So, what's your opinion?

Also, this isn't a racist post. I would have the exact same concerns if these were white asylum seekers from Germany for example. The worry is the system is being abused by some and that we are a bit too lax when it comes to documentation and monitoring of asylum seekers.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14058597/Fake-asylum-seekers-conning-way-Britain-telling-Home-Office-war-torn-Eritrea-bragging-thousands-followers-TikTok.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14185169/amp/Four-asylum-seekers-costing-taxpayer-estimated-160-000-year-living-575-000-luxury-home-accused-faking-Afghan-nationalities-UK.html

And the police have done nothing even though there's a trail of corpses and where they are is well known to residents?

Exacrly @username299 . Unless you are native, any rights you have in most of the ME are tied totally to your employment. Lose your job, you leave the country pronto. Doesn't matter what colour your skin is, or your religion; there is no unemployment benefit, no universal credit and not much free health care. There's also no income tax.

I don't understand your point. The ME is not known for rights and migrant workers have very few. I don't understand why this is being held up as a bastion of how to treat people.

I work with asylum seekers. They are kind, generous and grateful. They have nothing but are always offering food and drink as I visit or as I leave. Some of their stories about how they have arrived in the UK are horrifying. Some peoples attitudes are disgraceful.

There are a group the same in a town near me, camping in the woods. Luckily it's a town I don't frequent often!

And no the police do nothing!

I think it's not at all surprising and to be expected that there would be fake asylum seekers.

For the same reasons that there are fake VISA people calling you, and fake ads on FB, and fake articles telling you to sign up for more government info, and fake dating profiles. It's human nature.

And compared to the past, people are much more connected, more people see the possibility of moving somewhere better, they can figure out how to get there, they can read the rules, connect with professional scammers or other people who have done the same thing.

It may be that just as we are increasingly needing to have systems and protections to protect us from personal scams, systems like the asylum system need to have better, quicker ways to deal with claims that are either fraudulent, or just not valid under the law.

Yeah, I'd be talking to the police about all those crimes, not resurrecting a four month old post.

It was a response to an earlier post asking why the wealthy Arab states don't take asylum seekers and refugees, not an opinion on migrant workers.

Many of my close friends and family have been migrant workers in Gulf States going back more than 25 years. The labourers, gardeners and nannies from Asia are actually quite keen to work there, and their families find the money to make it happen. A decade in the Gulf can alter a lot of lives, compared to the wages paid locally.

It's quite the utopia. If you ignore the fact that women have very few rights and domestic workers are regularly abused with no recourse. As for asylum seekers, why would they seek asylum with similar circumstances to what they're fleeing?

Oh yes, pity the tax paying, "top one percent" who have more wealth than the bottom 70% of the UK!

Some politicians like to tell us that people come to UK cos it's so amazingly generous

I believe the real reason people come to UK is because some of them have English as a second language, so they believe it may be easier to rebuild their lives here

I'm wondering why this old thread has been resurrected today...

And I've reported all sorts of racist posts to Facebook, and not one of them has been removed.

They stopped removing posts a while back now. Racism, antisemitism, misogyny and all the rest is 'free speech.'

That it’s an incredibly complicated, involved and complex issue that is only going to get worse with climate change and wars.

But also that the Daily Mail and Telegraph are not the best place to be seeking out you facts…

I'm sure it was here that I read that in the UK 80% of asylum claims were approved, in France it was 60%. Both the UK and France are very similar - signatories to UN guidelines, both liberal democracies, both have been involved in Afghanistan, Iraq etc. The difference is strange. The procedure for saying yes or no is down to civil service instructions.

An application for asylum here can only be made in the country. We do not have "asylum allocation centres" in other countries. If we did then the incentive to make a difficult and dangerous cross channel journey would be removed.

The media, BBC, itv and sky as well as GB news and daily mail regularly show large numbers of single black skinned young men running off their newly benched boat on the south coast. We are told that the numbers of legal immigrants way exceeds the number of asylum seekers. We do not see the legal immigrants coming in. We do not see them applying or paying to get visas. What the eye sees.....

If you do not like right wing views or supporters it will be a great wind up to say "refugees welcome" and be as provocative as you can be.

The worry is that with Rachel Reeves yesterday advising migrants will no longer be housed in hotels but private rentals. Rentals are hard to find at the best of times this will make matters worse.

We haven’t seen the 20,000 whose applications have failed returning to their countries of origin either. Yet leave they have.