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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:12

Wexone · 23/01/2025 14:40

Plenty of my friends tell their mother everything, my sister being one of them, she talks to her numerous times a day as well as spend weekends with her. Women have their mother with them at birth, have them stay for weeks on end to help at home, and people will say this is normal , Some women tell their mothers every detail of their sex life finances etc. Why is it ok for women to be best friends with their mother but not a man to be best friends with their mother ? If you don't like it dump him find someone else

He can do both aswell you know

Who wants to be with a man child who is best friends with mommy? No woman in their right mind would sign up for that. Luckily my fiancé is normal and considers me his best friend.

and the mother staying with woman isn’t comparable. The man’s body didn’t just go through a traumatic event such as giving birth. Where their hormones are all over the place and their body is forever changed. Let’s not act like child birth has the same effect on men and women when men contribute what? 2 seconds to the pregnancy process oh yeah and ten get praised for doing the bare minimim
as a father

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sandyhappypeople · 23/01/2025 15:14

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:40

What would my fiancé be offended about? What am I implying?

Well just a reminder of the general gist of what you are saying:

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage.

I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

I mean metaphorically his mother is living in our pocket with open access to our lives at any given time served up on a silver platter by my fiance.

It invites unsolicited advice or opinions which can cause issues.

I just don’t want her living in our places.

What good can come out of his mother who naturally is a biased party having access to that?

That’s what I worry about in our future him inviting his mother into our marriage by telling her things that aren’t her business. Like what is he hoping to accomplish by doing that? I’m worried he is trying to seek her approval.

Just not sure why he feels his mother is owed an exact financial breakdown.

Breaking down as a nearly married man every detail of our financial set up is not healthy.

Basically you are inferring that she is trying to prise this information out of him intent on using it against you, so instead of seeing it as a perfectly normal mother son relationship (this sort of relationship is extremely common with daughters to be fair), speaking about a topic which seems to have come up naturally in conversation. You are instead accusing her of trying to interfere in your lives, by influencing her son outside of your 'control', even though you have not offered any evidence that she does interfere or uses anything that he shares with her against you or anything really, they lives 100s of miles away from each other and share their lives, millions of people live like this and there is nothing negative about it, it is purely a loving, supportive and close familial relationship.

You are jealous of the close relationship he has with his mum and instead of accepting that is part of who he is (which it is and always has been), you are now using emotional manipulation to try and put a stop to it, so you can have him all to yourself. It is controlling and abusive to saboutage your partners relationships outside of you as a couple and to isolate them from their family, which is basically what you are trying to do here.

There may be a reason why she is keeping you at arms length to be honest, you sound incredibly possessive and jealous, but as long as she isn't interfering in your day to day lives then there is room for him to have a mother relationship alongside a wife relationship.

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 15:14

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:09

In what way am I your worst nightmare? Only
of sons not of daughters? Why!

Do you think you chose which sex you’re the mother of?

Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 15:14

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:46

Oh give it time I’m sure that’s next. It’s a slippery slope with enmeshed mothers and sons.

Here it is. You sound overly dramatic and manipulative with this fantastical slippery slope stuff where you're now blaming him for stuff that he hadn't done yet and isn't in the same league as this issue.

You sound fixated, somewhat obsessive, and in competition with his mom, ie wanting to be his best friend and not his mom. Your husband can be close to more than one person, it's not a contest. She gave him life FFS.

TheseCalmSeas · 23/01/2025 15:15

I think you’re over reacting and are being a bit controlling.

Also, I wouldn’t dream of this setup pre marriage.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/01/2025 15:15

What's wrong with someone being best friends with their mom?

Also you keep saying he's overly emeshed but now you say he's normal.

And why do you keep talking about unbiased opinions? Has his mother said you don't contribute enough? Has your fiancee said that?

You are freaking out about nothing and changing the narrative to suit your needs.

And you sound really jealous of his mom.

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:15

When I first started living with DH (who is American and I am not) I shared all the details with my own mum. Not because I am ‘enmeshed’ with her but because she was a professionally successful woman who taught me that I must never be dependent. Now I was marrying someone who would always earn more (he’s a doctor, I am an academic in the humanities) and I wanted to hear her opinion as a woman and my mum about this. And she did suggest a few things I could do financially to protect myself further (also given that I was the one living in a foreign country). My mum was more than 13 hours away btw. Had DH ‘forbidden’ me from speaking to my mum about our finances I would have really wondered why and it would have been a huge red flag.

Sofasogreat · 23/01/2025 15:16

You say he's enmeshed, that he's looking for biased opinion from his mother, and that you do all the house care. You're still young, OP - maybe this relationships will work out really well and AIBU are just being vipers, or maybe you'll look back in years to come and be really glad this site made you think about what you really want if you later on have children or caring responsibilities and might be bringing in little or nothing financially.

AliceMcK · 23/01/2025 15:16

Massive over reaction. You actually sound very immature and high maintenance. It appears your just looking for a reason to hate the future MIL.

lots of people talk to their parents daily, I don’t, my mothers a bitch and I don’t talk to her at all. But your fiancé sounds like he has a perfectly normal healthy relationship.

Your actually sounding like my mother who was jealous of any relationship my DF had outside of her, she hated he was close to his mother and sisters and would try and make his life hard when it came to having a relationship with them.

i could tell you the ins and outs of the financial set up of dozens of people I know, not exact figures but the way their families work because some people are happy to share, some not. You’ve told him now your not happy to share, let it be that and let it go.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:16

nam3c4ang3 · 23/01/2025 14:41

Sorry OP - you sound hysterical and overdramatic. He sounds close to his mum and you probably aren't as close with yours. This relationship wont work. As a mother to a son (who i am very close to) - you sound hardwork.

Hopefully you won’t push his partner out and you will care about her as well

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Wexone · 23/01/2025 15:16

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:12

Who wants to be with a man child who is best friends with mommy? No woman in their right mind would sign up for that. Luckily my fiancé is normal and considers me his best friend.

and the mother staying with woman isn’t comparable. The man’s body didn’t just go through a traumatic event such as giving birth. Where their hormones are all over the place and their body is forever changed. Let’s not act like child birth has the same effect on men and women when men contribute what? 2 seconds to the pregnancy process oh yeah and ten get praised for doing the bare minimim
as a father

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Who wants to be with a women child who's mother is their best friend ?🙎No man in their right mind would want would sign up for that would they 😂
But yet for loads its life for loads of husbands and wives

Jewel52 · 23/01/2025 15:17

I’m going to go against the grain here and say that I can see the op’s point of view. Some of this is supposition but it’s based on comments she’s made about feeling undervalued by her soon to be mother in law like the lack of birthday gifts and direct contact I think the op believes her partner’s openness on his higher earnings are the basis for the mother believing her son can do better. This is why she’s finding “traditional” extra jobs that she alone has responsibility for as if this proves her worthiness.

Op - don’t start a marriage on an imbalance. You shouldn’t be doing 100% of the housework. Tell your partner honestly what this issue is here and see whether you can resolve this for the future. If you can’t, there’s a message there.

it’s like you’ve convinced yourself that this is the only man for you and anything that threatens that scenario perhaps does cause you to overreact.

Having said that, I have a 22 year old, I’m close to, with a long term girlfriend. When I ask the occasional question that he feels treads on the privacy of their relationship, he’ll tell me straightforwardly. It makes me feel proud of the man I’ve raised for his loyalty and his respect for her boundaries. And I don’t like her much but that’s not the point!

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:18

And what is an ‘open access to your life’? I talked to my mum about everything- I was moving thousands of miles away, my visa status would be dependent on him, and yeah I needed to talk to my parents to make sure they thought the steps I was taking was sensible. And of course my mum was unbiased- she was my mum!!!

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:18

justteanbiscuits · 23/01/2025 14:45

Go on and on about what?

I want my sons to be allowed to speak to me as often as they want to. Not as often as their partner will allow. If my son wants to speak to me about how they sort their finances, I want him to be allowed to. I don't want my sons to be controlled by any partner and certainly not guilt tripped.

So you wouldn’t care about your DIL/SIL (because your son could be gay that’s why I add SIL as well) and their feelings? WOW you would be a nightmare MIL

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Ohnonotmeagain · 23/01/2025 15:18

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:12

Who wants to be with a man child who is best friends with mommy? No woman in their right mind would sign up for that. Luckily my fiancé is normal and considers me his best friend.

and the mother staying with woman isn’t comparable. The man’s body didn’t just go through a traumatic event such as giving birth. Where their hormones are all over the place and their body is forever changed. Let’s not act like child birth has the same effect on men and women when men contribute what? 2 seconds to the pregnancy process oh yeah and ten get praised for doing the bare minimim
as a father

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Me. 🤷‍♀️

dh called his parents every day. They have a great relationship. It is possible to have a great relationship with your parents AND have a good marriage.

when his mum was dying he brought her to live with us and cared for her every day. It was hard but I know if every I need that kind of care he will be there to take care of me til the end.

think about it, when you have kids do you want them to grow up, find partners and then never really speak to you beyond pleasantries?

one of my children has moved away and they call nearly every day for a chat and to tell me about their lives. I love hearing from them and wouldn’t want it any other way.

poemsandwine · 23/01/2025 15:18

Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 15:14

Here it is. You sound overly dramatic and manipulative with this fantastical slippery slope stuff where you're now blaming him for stuff that he hadn't done yet and isn't in the same league as this issue.

You sound fixated, somewhat obsessive, and in competition with his mom, ie wanting to be his best friend and not his mom. Your husband can be close to more than one person, it's not a contest. She gave him life FFS.

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I wonder if he's allowed friends, or if that's seen as competition, too. Good luck to this dude.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:18

justteanbiscuits · 23/01/2025 14:45

Go on and on about what?

I want my sons to be allowed to speak to me as often as they want to. Not as often as their partner will allow. If my son wants to speak to me about how they sort their finances, I want him to be allowed to. I don't want my sons to be controlled by any partner and certainly not guilt tripped.

Interesting also that you only mention your sons guess you could give two shits if your daughter and Joe often she speaks to you??

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PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 15:20

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:18

Interesting also that you only mention your sons guess you could give two shits if your daughter and Joe often she speaks to you??

You sound less American and more British!

Oioisavaloy27 · 23/01/2025 15:20

Good lord what a lot of drama over absolutely nothing! I really feel for the man you are living with if he can't even speak to his mother.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:20

nam3c4ang3 · 23/01/2025 14:49

Ahhhh... the drip feed. You dont like her. Fair enough. Should have opened with that in the original post OP.

It’s not that I don’t like her it’s that she makes no effort with me. Yet my fiancé despite how she treats me continues to talk to her everyday because saying her treatment of his future wife is ok.

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Grammarnut · 23/01/2025 15:20

Is his mum @BittySpider ? Her maths is no good. I'd ignore her.

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:21

DH also called his mom every day and then his parents came to live with us just before COVID. Which I am very glad they did otherwise we wouldn’t have seen much of FIL in the last years of his life. DH is very close to his mom. I don’t see that as a threat to me. I mean, she’s a little mad in her own way- but so was my mom. We have healthy functional relationships with each other and with each other’s in laws. My dad is now alone after my mom died and yes I also speak to him everyday. Sometimes more than once a day!

Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 15:24

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:18

So you wouldn’t care about your DIL/SIL (because your son could be gay that’s why I add SIL as well) and their feelings? WOW you would be a nightmare MIL

Nowhere in this paragraph did op say she wouldn't care about their partner. You aren't listening to what people say not are you arguing in good faith. This is irrational and manipulative op.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:24

HollyKnight · 23/01/2025 14:50

Did his mother actually say anything about your setup or have you just imagined a whole scenario in your head? You talk about her as if she is your rival. That is not going to go well.

I asked him what she said bc I said if she is influencing him in our relationship that’s a problem and he said she was just like oh ok.

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Gcsunnyside23 · 23/01/2025 15:24

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:49

ok that checks out then. I was genuinely confused as to why they thought a partnership should involve bean counting and splitting things down the middle as if we were roommates. If anything it’s a lot more uncommon to find a partner you connect with where you both make exactly the same. I’m curious on here if there was never a time in their relationship where they made less then their partner or where the pendulum didn’t swing in the other direction. Maybe the focus should be on asking why teachers are so underpaid for all the work they do

I actually agree, my husband and I lump all our money in the same account and sort it from there. It's been this way since he earned 3 times what I did and now that I outearn him. It's just easier when you have kids and saving etc but doesnt work for everyone.
I get your situation now with the drop feed that you and mil don't seem to have a relationship. I'd feel a bit resentful her knowing anything if she didn't even speak to or acknowledge me too.
Have you spoke to your fiancé about this? This will be a big spanner on your relationship

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