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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 21:10

Wow! On DWIL one poster gave me a huge wake up call she said, “don’t marry him till he can fully separate from his mom and be in a partnership with you. he shouldn’t be considering going on this “family trip” if you’re not invited. Fiancé has got to learn to zip HIS lips about YOUR SHARED financial information.

This is worth pushing wedding plans back by a year at least, if not putting them indefinitely on hold. This is a betrayal of your trust, similar to cheating on you.

I’m sorry to say, this will not fix itself. You should demand that if Fiancé wants to get married to you, he needs to invest in counseling for himself to understand how HE has let you down. He needs to figure out what changes HE will make to reduce his enmeshment with his mom, and stop hurting his relationship with you.

Don’t go to couples counseling yet. Let fiancé figure out if he wants to be a man in a partnership with you first, or his mom’s son first. Then you’ll have to decide if what he wants is going to work for you.

Wow a very far cry from the majority of these responses saying I have no say over my shared finances. Some even going so far as bean counting saying I don’t have say because I don’t put as much money in when that’s totally irrelevant because it’s a JOINT account and I contribute as well. Also everyone on here egging on the enmeshed behavior. Whereas on DWILs they call it out for what it is and say what I’ve been saying all along that he needs to be in partnership with me first and mom’s son second. I knew I wasn’t crazy after all

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Bigcat25 · 24/01/2025 21:32

OP, not everything on reddit, (or here of course) is fact you need to take as gospel. Some poster you're repeating (and considering canceling your wedding over) HAS NEVER MET YOU OR YOUR PARTNER and might not be right even if they knew you well.

sandyhappypeople · 24/01/2025 21:40

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 21:10

Wow! On DWIL one poster gave me a huge wake up call she said, “don’t marry him till he can fully separate from his mom and be in a partnership with you. he shouldn’t be considering going on this “family trip” if you’re not invited. Fiancé has got to learn to zip HIS lips about YOUR SHARED financial information.

This is worth pushing wedding plans back by a year at least, if not putting them indefinitely on hold. This is a betrayal of your trust, similar to cheating on you.

I’m sorry to say, this will not fix itself. You should demand that if Fiancé wants to get married to you, he needs to invest in counseling for himself to understand how HE has let you down. He needs to figure out what changes HE will make to reduce his enmeshment with his mom, and stop hurting his relationship with you.

Don’t go to couples counseling yet. Let fiancé figure out if he wants to be a man in a partnership with you first, or his mom’s son first. Then you’ll have to decide if what he wants is going to work for you.

Wow a very far cry from the majority of these responses saying I have no say over my shared finances. Some even going so far as bean counting saying I don’t have say because I don’t put as much money in when that’s totally irrelevant because it’s a JOINT account and I contribute as well. Also everyone on here egging on the enmeshed behavior. Whereas on DWILs they call it out for what it is and say what I’ve been saying all along that he needs to be in partnership with me first and mom’s son second. I knew I wasn’t crazy after all

Maybe it was your friend @RedMentor ? In fact, it's quite surprising that you haven't acknowledged any of their responses in the slightest even though she seems to whole heartedly agree with everything you have said? Odd that.

Good luck with that advice is all I'm going to say.. may as well call the wedding off now because if my fiance told me chatting to my mum every day was the same as me cheating on him I wouldn't entertain a single second more of such blatant disrespect... but by all means give it a go and see if it yields the result you are after.

I think you should put your money where your mouth is and tell him all the vile things you've said about him on here, tell him how much you hate his mum and that you won't marry him until he 'dumps' his mum and then see if he still feels like spending the rest of his life with you in 'blissful happiness'.

We'll wait...

Tourmalines · 24/01/2025 21:47

I reckon he should be the one running .

99victoria · 24/01/2025 22:01

Yes, OP, you need to split up. You're not going to make it as a couple in the long term I'm afraid. Even if he's smitten enough with you now to put up with this childish, self-centred behaviour, he's soon going to get tired of it

deademptyduck · 24/01/2025 22:15

Crikey I speak to my Mum every day and sometimes twice a day. She knows the absolute inside out details of my own life, because I trust her and she is my friend. My husband has never cared. We have been married 25 years and there's no question that we are not committed to each other. With respect I do feel you sound a bit immature and dramatic and you are being unfair to him with all the drama over this. You've made your point to him now move on.

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 22:18

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 21:10

Wow! On DWIL one poster gave me a huge wake up call she said, “don’t marry him till he can fully separate from his mom and be in a partnership with you. he shouldn’t be considering going on this “family trip” if you’re not invited. Fiancé has got to learn to zip HIS lips about YOUR SHARED financial information.

This is worth pushing wedding plans back by a year at least, if not putting them indefinitely on hold. This is a betrayal of your trust, similar to cheating on you.

I’m sorry to say, this will not fix itself. You should demand that if Fiancé wants to get married to you, he needs to invest in counseling for himself to understand how HE has let you down. He needs to figure out what changes HE will make to reduce his enmeshment with his mom, and stop hurting his relationship with you.

Don’t go to couples counseling yet. Let fiancé figure out if he wants to be a man in a partnership with you first, or his mom’s son first. Then you’ll have to decide if what he wants is going to work for you.

Wow a very far cry from the majority of these responses saying I have no say over my shared finances. Some even going so far as bean counting saying I don’t have say because I don’t put as much money in when that’s totally irrelevant because it’s a JOINT account and I contribute as well. Also everyone on here egging on the enmeshed behavior. Whereas on DWILs they call it out for what it is and say what I’ve been saying all along that he needs to be in partnership with me first and mom’s son second. I knew I wasn’t crazy after all

Wait, someone giving you biased advice not in the best interest of your fiancé or relationship? And you’re now fine with that? I thought a few pages ago that was the worse thing your MIL could do?

justasking111 · 24/01/2025 22:24

DWIL is part of baby center for young mums. Their responses will be different because of their youth. Mumsnet has a much wider age range so the responses will reflect this.

genie10 · 24/01/2025 22:29

It would be interesting to hear your partner's reaction to all the spiteful things you have said here. I can't see you being together for the long term.

LondonLawyer · 24/01/2025 22:34

"Just because she is his mom doesn't mean she has to feel comfortable with their finances being completely out on display."

I'm confused here @RedMentor because I had thought the OP said it wasn't about amounts of money, but about arrangements, how they organised their finances?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 22:35

99victoria · 24/01/2025 22:01

Yes, OP, you need to split up. You're not going to make it as a couple in the long term I'm afraid. Even if he's smitten enough with you now to put up with this childish, self-centred behaviour, he's soon going to get tired of it

Wow! Out of 19 people on DWILs so far 18 out of 19 voted he is being a momma’s boy and needs to put our relationship first instead of trying to please his mom and be a son to his mom second yet I’m the one whose childish. His mom ignores my relationship asks him to leave his family member out of a family vacation. Obviously if he is going to marry me he considers me family.

in fact I’m having multiple people advise me to tell my fiancé to get into private counseling so he can untangle from being under his mother’s thumb and enmeshed.

Someone also said in a battle between you and her, he’s choosing her when she’s repeatedly excluding me. He’s still calling her daily and he still even thought for a second about going on a vacation that excluded his future wife and that’s problematic. And that he knows her love is conditional, and he’s so busy earning for her love, he’s perfectly fine with sacrificing mine. Someone even asked what are her consequences for ignoring they you are marrying her son and for treating you as disposable and excluding you routinely. Is that who YOU want to celebrate your union and I shouldn’t invite someone who is against our union by not showing support. That the wedding is 100% about me and my future husband and anyone who can’t respect that shouldn’t be there.

They also said that our “family” is each other and if we really do intend to marry and be a family then your “family” are each other and in future any children and or pets that you share and to stop referring to his mother brother sister aunts uncles father cousins grandparents as “his family” and start referring to them as his relatives because it puts me in a secondary category to them and that shouldn’t be the case. They were saying there’s a lot of power in my word choice in how I view my relationship with my soon to be husband for example stop saying, “her son” and say, “my fiancé” because at this stage he needs to be more my soon to be husband before he is a son.

how is it DWILs goes so far in the opposite direction? Clearly im not that far off if 18 out of 19 people are saying he’s a mommas boy.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 22:36

justasking111 · 24/01/2025 22:24

DWIL is part of baby center for young mums. Their responses will be different because of their youth. Mumsnet has a much wider age range so the responses will reflect this.

Doesn’t make their opinions less valid. It just
shows that there are lots of people who agree with me so clearly my view isn’t controlling or that out there or wrong

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RebelliousStarrChild · 24/01/2025 22:40

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 22:36

Doesn’t make their opinions less valid. It just
shows that there are lots of people who agree with me so clearly my view isn’t controlling or that out there or wrong

Actually, it does. They have a reaction that shows a lack of life experience.
If you think you are right, show your partner both posts and let him decide.

Also, put yourself in counselling to deal with your issues with his mother.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 23:00

RebelliousStarrChild · 24/01/2025 22:40

Actually, it does. They have a reaction that shows a lack of life experience.
If you think you are right, show your partner both posts and let him decide.

Also, put yourself in counselling to deal with your issues with his mother.

No it doesn’t. What an ageist thing to say. What if I said (and I don’t believe this at all) but older people are out of touch so their opinions are irrelevant.

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Mymanyellow · 24/01/2025 23:19

So what’s the plan then op. After all the advice you’ve had? What have you decided to do?

Itisjustmyopinion · 24/01/2025 23:23

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 23:00

No it doesn’t. What an ageist thing to say. What if I said (and I don’t believe this at all) but older people are out of touch so their opinions are irrelevant.

It is not ageist to say that people older have more life experience because it’s the truth

You may not agree with it or want to listen to it but it is accurate that those that have had longer relationships will have more experience than those just starting out

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 23:29

Mymanyellow · 24/01/2025 23:19

So what’s the plan then op. After all the advice you’ve had? What have you decided to do?

Postpone the wedding and we are each going to get individual counseling

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sandyhappypeople · 25/01/2025 00:06

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 22:36

Doesn’t make their opinions less valid. It just
shows that there are lots of people who agree with me so clearly my view isn’t controlling or that out there or wrong

They agree with you because you have told them a completely different story to what you have told us, you've barely mentioned your controlling behaviour, crying, silent treatment and how possessive and jealous you are of him even talking to his mum and instead have over exaggerated the story you told us about his mum not inviting you to the vacation, you told us it happened in the past yet you've told them it is happening now, and you've also told them the name and money thing happens every Christmas, when you told us it was only one time for a specific monetary present.

Basically you have figured out the bits that people really didn't agree with you on here, and you have left those parts out over there, but have realised if you elaborate the vacation and gift story to make your MIL sound terrible people will agree with you more.

Someone has even accused you of 'message board shopping' to get the answers you want, which to be honest sounds pretty accurate.

Tourmalines · 25/01/2025 00:58

What a horror.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 25/01/2025 01:37

sandyhappypeople · 25/01/2025 00:06

They agree with you because you have told them a completely different story to what you have told us, you've barely mentioned your controlling behaviour, crying, silent treatment and how possessive and jealous you are of him even talking to his mum and instead have over exaggerated the story you told us about his mum not inviting you to the vacation, you told us it happened in the past yet you've told them it is happening now, and you've also told them the name and money thing happens every Christmas, when you told us it was only one time for a specific monetary present.

Basically you have figured out the bits that people really didn't agree with you on here, and you have left those parts out over there, but have realised if you elaborate the vacation and gift story to make your MIL sound terrible people will agree with you more.

Someone has even accused you of 'message board shopping' to get the answers you want, which to be honest sounds pretty accurate.

Nope that’s false. I copied and pasted my OP from here onto there. If you don’t believe me you can check out DWILS

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 25/01/2025 01:40

sandyhappypeople · 25/01/2025 00:06

They agree with you because you have told them a completely different story to what you have told us, you've barely mentioned your controlling behaviour, crying, silent treatment and how possessive and jealous you are of him even talking to his mum and instead have over exaggerated the story you told us about his mum not inviting you to the vacation, you told us it happened in the past yet you've told them it is happening now, and you've also told them the name and money thing happens every Christmas, when you told us it was only one time for a specific monetary present.

Basically you have figured out the bits that people really didn't agree with you on here, and you have left those parts out over there, but have realised if you elaborate the vacation and gift story to make your MIL sound terrible people will agree with you more.

Someone has even accused you of 'message board shopping' to get the answers you want, which to be honest sounds pretty accurate.

I never said the vacation thing happened in the past I said we were already engaged and it happened recently and my fiancé told his mom he isn’t going without me.

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sandyhappypeople · 25/01/2025 02:07

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 25/01/2025 01:37

Nope that’s false. I copied and pasted my OP from here onto there. If you don’t believe me you can check out DWILS

I have done, you copied and pasted from here then added on two paragraphs to the bottom elaborating on the stories about the vacations and the gifts, then every response has been more and more information about how terrible she is and how horribly she has treated and (crucially) how your fiance hasn't been standing up for you at all, it is the opposite of what you told us.

THAT is why you are getting such strong responses from them.

To be honest OP, you sounds like you may have some genuine complaints if what you said over there is actually true, and if you had given an honest account of how your relationship actually is rather than insisting you are madly in love and have a perfect relationship, you would have got VERY different replies, similar to over there.

But ultimately YOU have pitted yourself against her, and the relationship between you and her has been breaking down for years.. the revelation that for the longest time your fiance has been siding with his mother explains your strength of feelings and I really don't know why you wouldn't mention that in the first place, over there you said he actually wanted to go on that holiday you weren't invited on and you have had to put a stop to it.. which is very much the opposite of what you have said here and she only sent you a text on your birthday so you stopped him buying her birthday cards and presents at all.

People can only advise on what you tell them.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 25/01/2025 02:17

sandyhappypeople · 25/01/2025 02:07

I have done, you copied and pasted from here then added on two paragraphs to the bottom elaborating on the stories about the vacations and the gifts, then every response has been more and more information about how terrible she is and how horribly she has treated and (crucially) how your fiance hasn't been standing up for you at all, it is the opposite of what you told us.

THAT is why you are getting such strong responses from them.

To be honest OP, you sounds like you may have some genuine complaints if what you said over there is actually true, and if you had given an honest account of how your relationship actually is rather than insisting you are madly in love and have a perfect relationship, you would have got VERY different replies, similar to over there.

But ultimately YOU have pitted yourself against her, and the relationship between you and her has been breaking down for years.. the revelation that for the longest time your fiance has been siding with his mother explains your strength of feelings and I really don't know why you wouldn't mention that in the first place, over there you said he actually wanted to go on that holiday you weren't invited on and you have had to put a stop to it.. which is very much the opposite of what you have said here and she only sent you a text on your birthday so you stopped him buying her birthday cards and presents at all.

People can only advise on what you tell them.

I never stopped him giving her cards and gifts it’s just that he never bothered to do it so I picked up the rope but then dropped it when it wasn’t reciprocal and my fiancé just wasn’t bothered with it. What are your thoughts on me just getting a gif not even a thoughtful typed out text

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LondonLawyer · 25/01/2025 02:31

SomethingStinky · 23/01/2025 22:02

It's toiletries 😂

<crash>
Penny dropped here, I'd been wondering what on earth they were, trees? Like, loo rolls?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 25/01/2025 04:04

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:49

Oh no we are very much getting married. My fiancé and I were just talking this morning about how we are excited for the cake testing

Show him this thread. Maybe it will give him a reality check and he'll exit this toxic controlling relationship

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