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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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Miloarmadillo2 · 23/01/2025 13:18

You’ve just told millions of strangers on the internet….
He sounds overly enmeshed with his mother which can be a real issue but I don’t think telling her the financial setup in itself is a problem. Maybe consider a couples counselling session before you marry to explore his boundaries with his mother and whether he can actually separate from her and see you as his primary relationship.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:22

Miloarmadillo2 · 23/01/2025 13:18

You’ve just told millions of strangers on the internet….
He sounds overly enmeshed with his mother which can be a real issue but I don’t think telling her the financial setup in itself is a problem. Maybe consider a couples counselling session before you marry to explore his boundaries with his mother and whether he can actually separate from her and see you as his primary relationship.

Oh cmon surely you realize that’s not the same thing. You wouldn’t know me if you saw me walking down the street. You don’t have personal emotional investment like his mother does. You don’t have to sit with me at family gatherings while you know this very personal and intimate details about our relationship. Also that’s what these boards are for getting advice on things that we couldn’t tell our close ones in real life.

Also I consider finances to be something between the couple. How is it appropriate to give his mother an exact breakdown of that especially given you yourself say it sounds like they are enmeshed? That’s inviting her right into our relationship and finances between a couple is a private thing between the couple. To me that’s a lot more private and personal than the other stuff he tells her. There has to be some boundaries as an adult in a relationship.

Yes, I definitely agree that a couples counseling session would be a great idea. I might frame it towards setting boundaries with our families in general and what topics and such should be off limits for our families so it isn’t as pointed as his relationship with his mom. I’m going to bring that up to him tonight.

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Gumbo · 23/01/2025 13:22

Your setup sounds similar to how we arranged our finances when we were first married, and I'm pretty sure if it ever came up in conversation with anyone we didn't have an issue saying that we both paid the same percentage of our wages into a joint account - it didn't feel like a particular secret.

I think you're overreacting, especially if your MIL lives 13 hours away - she's definitely not living in your pocket.

There's plenty of women on here who talk to their mothers on a daily basis (and I know a lot of men who do that too) so I don't really see what he's doing wrong. However - if the relationship isn't working for you you may need to rethink it, since he clearly has a close relationship with his mother which isn't likely to change...

MoosakaWithFries · 23/01/2025 13:26

I think you're overreacting here. It seems a very British thing not to discuss finances/salaries but I think it's completely fine for him to speak with his mother about the set up that you both have.

My DM knows my salary, income etc. She also knows how myself and my DP contribute to our financial set up. I don't see any problem in that.

That being said, I haven't shared my DPs income. That's for him to share with her if he wanted, and tbh I'm sure he'd have no issue with me discussing that either.

Honeypickle · 23/01/2025 13:26

You say he pays the mortgage but hopefully you are on the title deeds to the house?

BendingSpoons · 23/01/2025 13:27

I personally don't find the level of detail strange. We are quite open with both sets of parents about things like finances, costs of repairs etc.

RabbitsEatPancakes · 23/01/2025 13:28

You sounds a bit dramatic. In my circles it's perfectly normal to discuss financial set up, not always exact amounts but percentages etc is absolutely normal. And discussing house repairs/ renovation is very common place, I'm not sure why he can't tell his mum that?

Are you in a different country? All this everyone saying how beautiful your love is stuff is sounding very unbritish. I'm wondering if there's a cultural difference.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:30

Gumbo · 23/01/2025 13:22

Your setup sounds similar to how we arranged our finances when we were first married, and I'm pretty sure if it ever came up in conversation with anyone we didn't have an issue saying that we both paid the same percentage of our wages into a joint account - it didn't feel like a particular secret.

I think you're overreacting, especially if your MIL lives 13 hours away - she's definitely not living in your pocket.

There's plenty of women on here who talk to their mothers on a daily basis (and I know a lot of men who do that too) so I don't really see what he's doing wrong. However - if the relationship isn't working for you you may need to rethink it, since he clearly has a close relationship with his mother which isn't likely to change...

I guess I feel like he is more defensive about his relationship with his mother than his relationship with me. I asked him why is he more worried about rocking the boat when it comes to his relationship with his mother than he is when is comes to my feelings. I mean metaphorically his mother is living in our pocket with open access to our lives at any given time served up on a silver platter by my fiance. That was my fault for not clarifying what I meant. I didn’t mean literally in the sense she comes over all the time or anything like that. I feel finances and financial set up is no one else’s business but their banker and financial advisor. My thing is how is that his mom’s business to know and why does she need to know that in the first place? It invites unsolicited advice or opinions which can cause issues. And as his soon to be wife my thoughts on this should matter. Given we are a team and your partner/spouse should come first. There has to be some boundaries as an adult with your parents. That’s being an adult. They don’t need open access to your life when you are nearly 30. Hell we are told it’s healthy for teenagers to have some independence from their parents let alone a full grown adult.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:30

Honeypickle · 23/01/2025 13:26

You say he pays the mortgage but hopefully you are on the title deeds to the house?

I’m on the title.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:31

Im American so I do accept maybe it’s an American thing to be more private about a couple’s finances. Good to know in other cultures people are more open about it. I appreciate that perspective. That gives me food for thought.

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Mindymomo · 23/01/2025 13:33

If this is the first time in 6 years that he has mentioned finances with his DM, it wouldn’t worry me, but if you don’t want her to know certain things, then your partner should consider this. My DS is 28 and in a relationship with his gf of 2 years, they are in the process of buying their first home together and have asked us for financial advice, so have openly told us what their financial situation is. We’ve suggested to them to have a similar set up to yours, but they’ve yet to decide.

Vinni8 · 23/01/2025 13:34

Your fiancé's relationship with his mother sounds really, very normal. I don't quite understand what you expect from him to be honest.

Do you not tell your parents when you're having work done on the house? Does it not come up in conversation?!

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 13:34

Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t.

She is his mum, he is allowed to share whatever he wants with her. Why are you even there anyway? Are you eavesdropping on their conversations or are you checking his emails/messages on his mobile?

You’re not married yet or have kids, so finances should be 50/50, he shouldn’t be paying more. And why would his mum give you money?!

I would advise him to give you an ultimatum to stop being controlling or he will leave.

ChangingHistory · 23/01/2025 13:34

If he speaks to her every day he is probably running out of things to say.

I don't think it is strange at all. Did she give an opinion on it? Is he asking her opinion? That would make a difference to me.

Do you feel threatened by this? That she is in some way taking away part of your role or that he might side with her if you thought you should get a new bathroom but she thought you needed a new kitchen?

Ciuokes therapy would be helpful, if you live each other you will work to understand each others needs and find a compromise.

Janbluesuary · 23/01/2025 13:36

Surely this is a reverse of the post the mother posted yesterday where she was told to butt out

28Fluctuations · 23/01/2025 13:36

I wouldn't say he sounds overly enmeshed with his mother. You live many hours distances from her, is that right? He talks to her daily, but that's not unusual. He's sharing details of his life, nothing he considered private.

It is fair for you to establish boundaries. You don't want her to know about your thoughts and feelings, for example, or your finances. You need to trust that he is not 'reporting back' to his Mum.

But you do sound rather overly emotional about this.

Tisthedamnseason · 23/01/2025 13:37

He sounds overly enmeshed with his mother which can be a real issue but I don’t think telling her the financial setup in itself is a problem.

I agree with this. You have shared bills and joint money, and also both have the same amount left over to spend as you please - I wouldn't consider that private information.

MoosakaWithFries · 23/01/2025 13:37

If my DP said financial discussions were just for him and I, I would find that controlling and a huge red flag.

Yes, you're engaged to be married but that 'just between the two of us' thing is very restrictive and really wears on the other person after a while. Secrets then start over the most trivial of things.

I wouldn't bother with couples counselling, I'd perhaps think about some for yourself to be less highly strung. Otherwise, where us this going to stop? Limiting his contact with his DM. Not discussion promotions or house renovations. Your need to silence him on aspects of his life with become completely suffocating for him.

BobbyBiscuits · 23/01/2025 13:37

I'm sorry but it was such an essay I struggled to get through it all.
You can't stop your partner sharing information with his mother. But you can tell him you don't like it. And you can also have minimal contact with her.
As for finances, that's between you two and I'd hope her influence wouldn't be too strong. But make sure you've got your own individual pot of money separately from him just in case of emergencies. And obviously to buy things just for you. If you can afford to.

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 13:38

I asked him why is he more worried about rocking the boat when it comes to his relationship with his mother than he is when is comes to my feelings. I mean metaphorically his mother is living in our pocket with open access to our lives at any given time served up on a silver platter by my fiance.

Your choice of words is really creepy. Do you want him to tread on eggshells around you so as not to upset you? Because that’s what it sounds like.

She is not being served anything on a platter, she is your son’s confidante, and that’s good because I think he’s going to need one.

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 13:39

BobbyBiscuits · 23/01/2025 13:37

I'm sorry but it was such an essay I struggled to get through it all.
You can't stop your partner sharing information with his mother. But you can tell him you don't like it. And you can also have minimal contact with her.
As for finances, that's between you two and I'd hope her influence wouldn't be too strong. But make sure you've got your own individual pot of money separately from him just in case of emergencies. And obviously to buy things just for you. If you can afford to.

But make sure you've got your own individual pot of money separately from him just in case of emergencies. And obviously to buy things just for you. If you can afford to.

She already has a separate savings account, and she’s able to save more because he pays more of the mortgage.

stayathomer · 23/01/2025 13:41

Nearly everyone I know talks to their mother every day not because they’re lonely but because they want to! I know to each their own but I hate the idea that anyone thing talking to your mum about everyday life is anyway strange!

Ihopeyouhavent · 23/01/2025 13:41

You sound very jealous of your partners relationship with mum 🙄

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:41

Vinni8 · 23/01/2025 13:34

Your fiancé's relationship with his mother sounds really, very normal. I don't quite understand what you expect from him to be honest.

Do you not tell your parents when you're having work done on the house? Does it not come up in conversation?!

It’s the laying out our exact financial set up to a T that bothers me. No reason that is any of her business or she needs to know that. Some information need to be left between the couple. Finances and in-laws/family don’t mix unless of course one is providing financial help which isn’t the case for us. I guess to me finances are a private thing. I don’t share that information with my parents. I think if I’m not comfortable with that aspect of our relationship being shared there is nothing wrong with me expressing that need to keep that between the two of us. It’s all how I word it. If I say something like, “hey honey I would appreciate it if our financial information between us would stay between the two of us I feel more comfortable that way and don’t want anyone involved in our personal relationship set up to that degree.”

I do appreciate what others are saying though that it might be a cultural difference as I am not British I am American. So maybe in other cultures finances aren’t considered as private. However my fiancé is American as well. It just wouldn’t cross my mind to share something like that with my parents.

also the talking everyday thing just seems a little enmeshed. A bit teetering on mommas boy territory and I want to avoid that. I talk once a week to my parents and I consider us close. But again you guys say it’s a normal amount so maybe it’s me and my normal meter is broken.

im taking on all the feedback.

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Calmhappyandhealthy · 23/01/2025 13:44

Dear lord! What a drama !

If there's things you want kept private from his mother, or anyone, discuss these things with him.....explain how you feel....LISTEN to how he feels.

And compromise.

You know.....like adults

Don't cry and need "alone time"

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